Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?

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Screerider	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#21	[-]
Posts: 25461 (05/15/07 4:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yau Man dangled the "candy", not "Survivor".
LuvTheOzman	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#22	[-]
Posts: 2196 (05/15/07 4:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* Life for most people, most days is making choices and dealing with consequences Survivor isn't life it's a TV show. Just like Jonathan said at the CI finale, people do things and say things that they normally wouldn't do in their everyday life. It's all done in the context of the game.
token lunatic	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#23	[-]
Posts: 28388 (05/15/07 4:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	True but real people play. :tug at heart strings: So real emotions are involved, which makes the FC so lively gosh darnit!
willsucks402	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#24	[-]
Posts: 13229 (05/15/07 4:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* Yau is responsible for the truck. He knew that Dreamz was not obligated to keep his word and he took that chance. Jeff pointed that fact out when the deal was going down. Dreamz outplayed him which a big part of the Survivor game is it not? X
LuvTheOzman	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#25	[-]
Posts: 2196 (05/15/07 5:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ After Dreamz reneged, Yau said Dreamz outplayed him and he also told him to keep the truck and enjoy it. Did I miss something?
zaphrella	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#26	[-]
Posts: 515 (05/15/07 5:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Just because Yau is forgiving him doesn't mean what the asshole did was right. It just means that Yau is a bigger person than asshole is. Just because Yau forgave him doesn't mean I still can't be outraged by that scamming sack of shit. Based on Sack o' Shit's reneging on that deal in the way he did would influence the way I would deal with So'S if I ever had the misfortune to have to deal with him in real life. That applies to a number of players over past seasons, as well, not just this sack. Yea, it is a game but character issues come through in the games playing,
LuvTheOzman	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#27	[-]
Posts: 2196 (05/15/07 5:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ Simma dahn nah....
zaphrella	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#28	[-]
Posts: 515 (05/15/07 5:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Did this thread go to eHarmony.com's page or something? You can probably find someone around here but you might want to put some lightbulbs in your makeup mirror first.
LuvTheOzman	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#29	[-]
Posts: 2196 (05/15/07 5:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hey thanks for the tip. I'm heard this was a great place to pick up straight men....
zaphrella	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#30	[-]
Posts: 515 (05/15/07 5:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wouldn't know. I prefer Rotweilers.
schreck	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#31	[-]
Posts: 1 (05/15/07 7:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There is no debate to be had here. You see it is simply repugnant paternalism to say that you, me, the producers or anyone should decide that someone like Dreamz should be barred from doing such things as being a contestant on a reality show because he is too slow, too dumb. He has to be protected from his own will and decision to go on a reality show or accept a new truck in return for giving a bracelet if he so wins one later. He doesn't have the grey matter necessary to properly engage in such an intellectual tour de force. If your going to make a claim of some sort of IQ benchmark for doing something as pedestrian and inconsequential as being a television show contestant you ironically prove that you yourself are far below the standard your advocating. I mean forget having a benchmark for appearing on a stupid reality show what about voting. We need literacy and IQ tests at the voting boths. We can't just let any old idiot vote. Among the most basic of intelligence is the simple awareness that no one has the right to step in and decide you are the one who must decide for the good of everyone else. There is a basic equality of man. The recognition of this and hey that means a guy can go on a reality show if he wants to is the foundation of American thought. There are no special rules for who is allowed to be public and who must remain hidden because we don't want to hear from dumb people. That is what your argument comes down to. Dreamz is a pockmark of shame on the face of humanity - he's not smart enough. Let's not show him. What else is it. He did win immunity challenges and end tied for second so there is certainly no real argument of capability for playing on the actual show. You should be ashamed for your argument. Dreamz is a moral failure. He, in his own words "slithered." I am revolted by his actions and everyone's attempts to hide it as a just part of a game. But we have no right or power to take away his humanity for his failures to live up to the ideals of humanity. The Schreck
Snakes And Arrows	Re: Is SURVIVOR more responsible than Dreamz for the truck?	#32	[-]
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Tocorncheese		#33	[-]
Posts: 6 (01/17/09 7:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	yeah
varnish255		#34	[-]
Posts: 89 (01/18/09 5:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	schreck wrote: There is no debate to be had here. You see it is simply repugnant paternalism to say that you, me, the producers or anyone should decide that someone like Dreamz should be barred from doing such things as being a contestant on a reality show because he is too slow, too dumb. He has to be protected from his own will and decision to go on a reality show or accept a new truck in return for giving a bracelet if he so wins one later. He doesn't have the grey matter necessary to properly engage in such an intellectual tour de force. If your going to make a claim of some sort of IQ benchmark for doing something as pedestrian and inconsequential as being a television show contestant you ironically prove that you yourself are far below the standard your advocating. I mean forget having a benchmark for appearing on a stupid reality show what about voting. We need literacy and IQ tests at the voting boths. We can't just let any old idiot vote. Among the most basic of intelligence is the simple awareness that no one has the right to step in and decide you are the one who must decide for the good of everyone else. There is a basic equality of man. The recognition of this and hey that means a guy can go on a reality show if he wants to is the foundation of American thought. There are no special rules for who is allowed to be public and who must remain hidden because we don't want to hear from dumb people. That is what your argument comes down to. Dreamz is a pockmark of shame on the face of humanity - he's not smart enough. Let's not show him. What else is it. He did win immunity challenges and end tied for second so there is certainly no real argument of capability for playing on the actual show. You should be ashamed for your argument. Dreamz is a moral failure. He, in his own words "slithered." I am revolted by his actions and everyone's attempts to hide it as a just part of a game. But we have no right or power to take away his humanity for his failures to live up to the ideals of humanity. The Schreck
Fart Party		#35	[-]
Posts: 101 (01/18/09 11:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It would be ok if Dreamz lied to win the million dollars, but it's not ok that he lied to get a fraction of that? Think about it. The name of the game of Survivor is lying. Dreamz is an asshole though, no argument, but Yau Man is the somewhat typical cocky asian who overplayed and got what you can expect.
Kaizer		#36	[-]
Posts: 442 (01/19/09 5:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yau-Man was not cocky, just too trusting. The fact that he admitted it showed that he's a humble person
Matt C		#37	[-]
Posts: 276 (01/19/09 7:23 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AllMenAreIslands wrote: If you hold EPMB responsible, I think you should go further and hold the schools, the Children's Aid and the entire state of ____ wherever Dreamz lives equally responsible for doing such a shitty job. Because it's the government's job to raise children. Thank you for the insight, Hillary Clinton.

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