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RobbyRob		#321	[-]
Posts: 684 (12/09/07 2:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This was one of the better TUF Finales, the main event was good, as much as I hate Guida that ugly little fucker can take some hits to the head. The Warmachine and J-Roc match was actually pretty good, and Im surprised Warmachine won. Maybe he isn't as shitty as I thought...he's still a dildo though. Hightower and Rudeboy are still both shiteaters, so I still don't even care about either of them. They still both suck. And the only reason that fight looked OK is because they suck almost equally. I'm glad Matt and Johns fight made TV, like I said before, I like both these guys a lot. John seems like he would have been such a good fighter if he would have started training at a younger age. I still hope I see him again though, the guy gives it his all. Matt needs to fight Mac before he pusses down to 155. Mac and Tommy was decent, I still think Tommy sucks, and I still hate Mac. And do all the guys still HAVE to wear their teams colors shorts? Did anyone else think that was sort of retarded? Especially John and Matt wearing the same exact shorts...they didnt even have one in blue and one in orange. Did they actually have a thing pop up that said John -orange trunks/ Matt -orange trunks??? The shiteater of the night, once again is Dana White though. Not just because his HUGE announcement was Forrest coaching and that had already been leaked online, but lets assume it hadn't....OK, one of your new coaches is Forrest who is now the number one contender to the lightheavyweight belt...OK, and he will fight the OTHER coach after the TUF season is over....hmmm, who is the other coach then Dana?? Who in the world could it POSSIBLY be??? What? I have to watch the video game awards to see??? What suspense!!! I mean if he would have announced Rampage first and said the other coach would be number one contender and they would fight after the show it really could have been anyone from Forrest, to Tito, to Liddell, to Rashad Evans, to Bisping, to a miraculous Ken Shamrock comeback!!! I mean seriously though, it wouldn't have been completely obvious at least. Dane White HATE!!!!
RobbyRob		#322	[-]
Posts: 685 (12/09/07 2:46 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	joeyboy40 wrote: Mac would destroy Nate Diaz had he been around last season. I think Mac is better than any of these guys at 155 from last seaons TUF. I completely agree. I think last season, though very entertaining with all the fights in the house and some interesting characters, it was the worst season as far as fighters go. Where the fuck was Mac last season? He was obviously fighting somewhere, and probably at 155...I wonder if he even tried out for the show...I can't imagine them not picking him...unless they didn't want a veteran...I don't know. So, will next year be all 205 guys? Or are they going to go back to having two weight classes? I kind of like all the guys the same weight class just so that then anyone can fight anyone.
joeyboy40		#323	[-]
Posts: 354 (12/09/07 4:02 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobbyRob wrote: Hightower and Rudeboy are still both shiteaters, so I still don't even care about either of them. They still both suck. And the only reason that fight looked OK is because they suck almost equally. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And do all the guys still HAVE to wear their teams colors shorts? Did anyone else think that was sort of retarded? Especially John and Matt wearing the same exact shorts...they didnt even have one in blue and one in orange. Did they actually have a thing pop up that said John -orange trunks/ Matt -orange trunks??? Both of those quotes are funny as all hell. I never really thought of the Forrest announcement but that cracks me up that you are right when they should have announced Rampage first. I like Dana White because he is the main reason my beloved sport now features the best of the best. UFC would be like the rest had not he and his cronies bought it and turned it around. They were aggressive in buying out the competition. That gives us the best possible fights. I also have an unpopular belief that Fedor is a big pussy. He was was probably roided up the arse in PRIDE and is now dodging UFC. I mean really there is no reason for him not to even sign a one fight deal to fight Randy. Now he will take meaningless fights and make his legacy vanish. Can anyone give me a reason he did that ? UFC would work with his current contact holders and make them all rich. He is a big damn pussy and will not give us MMA fans what we want. Oh also I think John Kolinski (or whatever his name is ) really sucks. He would be crushed by pretty much anyone. The fact that he got the embarassingly bad Billy was luck. Other than that Robbie is right on
RobbyRob		#324	[-]
Posts: 687 (12/09/07 4:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Honestly, I don't know what the deal with Fedor is. I don't know about the steroids or I would think the guy would be in a lot better shape. The only thing I can think of is either maybe he is scared to fight Couture and doesn't want to look like a pussy losing to an 80 year old man since he's on like a what is it now 25 win streak?? Or maybe he also watches TUF and just hates Dana White. It doesn't really matter if he fights nobodies the rest of his career staying undefeated for so long is always impressive. I actually do believe most of the hype with Fedor, the guy has the craziest ground and pound I've ever seen. I mean he is basically standing on his feet and has such crazy long monkey arms he can still land perfect punches. The crazy thing about Fedor is if you just watched one of his matches it would look like he just gets lucky. His swings look sort of wild and like he doesn't set up for them. It reminds me of Ichiro in MLB, he gets such weird hits, and he swings so weird it looks like he is just getting lucky..but for both of them, no one's THAT lucky. Dana White, I understand he is what made the sport what it is today, but I still can't stand him. He wants to give himself too much fucking camera time and he never has anything insightful to say. I mean, we get it, you're the president, do you really have to be on every episode of TUF? The only times he should be there is like when a guy is going home or something. It should be a big deal when he is there. That diva gets more camera time than most of the fighters. Him and Mac were probably neck and neck this season. Dana always says the stupidest shit too. He talks like he is explaining shit to a four year old only with saying fuck a lot. He reminds me of John Madden just always saying the most obvious stupid ass things like. "this is going to be a great fight, both guys want to win"....thanks...or he said recently "these guys take loses hard, they don't like to lose"...."if he can get him in a submission and make him tap, he's going to win this match". And he needs to quit making picks for the fights on TUF, him picking you as the winner is the fucking kiss of death. As soon as he picked George I was like...oh fuck....for someone that is the president of the UFC he sure seems to not follow it. How about him saying that Emerson/Diaz fight last season was the best fight they have had on TUF? Bull fucking shit. That fight sucked, both those fighters sucked. Dana White especially sucks. Speaking of last season how does Corey Hill get on the show when he has had no fights and just lied and said he was 4-0??? You can do that? They don't check??? How does the president not even CHECK on that?? Shit, I'm trying out next season and saying I'm 25-0...sure I'll get my ass kicked as soon as I fight but I'll at least be on TV...plus, I'll try to fight last so no one knows how much I actually suck...I'll just talk shit the whole time about how there is no way I'm possibly losing to anyone since I have so much experience and everyone will be afraid to fight me....maybe I could even get really lucky and end up fighting a Gabe, a Weems, or a Joe Scarola?? And then of course shit like the Forrest announcement and acting all cool like "tune in to the video game awards to find out the other guy!" Oh man, I'm on the edge of my seat...what genius could unravel this web of mystery!!! And him calling Matt Arroya a pussy for having a cracked rib and not fighting and him saying he was giving up....but Kalib wasn't a pussy when he had a rib injury and verbally tapped in his match(which is the pussiest thing you could possibly do...at least just get yourself in a submission) and then didn't want to come back and fight when Hammil got hurt?? Dana didn't think he was quitting?? Anyway, enough about my hate for Dana White..yeah, John does suck because he started so late and doesn't even train full time. Like I said though, if he would have started at a younger age I think he could have been good. He really isn't awful, he just looks like he doesn't know what he's doing a lot of the time. I'd still like to see him again though, like I said he does give it his all and still always wants to fight even when he knows he's probably going to get his ass kicked. Maybe they should let him fight Gabe???
Shinjo5		#325	[-]
Posts: 1915 (12/27/07 11:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
RobbyRob		#326	[-]
Posts: 838 (12/28/07 6:34 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	shinjo, I seriously hope that is just a joke.
joeyboy40		#327	[-]
Posts: 363 (12/29/07 12:38 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I am looking forward to tomorrow night. I have a horrible feeling that Chuck is going to get his ass kicked. I just think Silva wants this more and is clearly training harder for this fight. I hope I am wrong
Shinjo5		#328	[-]
Posts: 1917 (12/29/07 1:15 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Unfortunately Robby, it's as legit as it is awful.
BermudaTriangle	UFC 79	#329	[-]
Posts: 111 (12/29/07 11:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Awesome card! GSP just owned Matt Hughes so I'm happy! Arm bar! Retire Matt! Serra, you're in trouble! Chuck Liddell fought hard and won a great fight against Wanderlai Silva.
joeyboy40		#330	[-]
Posts: 364 (12/30/07 1:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I am so happy for Chuck. I was getting sick hoping he would not blow it at the end. He looked good and I cannot believe that Silva did not go down. That guy has one heck of a chin. I agree with the Rogan that it was shocking that Silva did not use his kicks when Jardine was so successful with them. It almost looked like Silva was not ready- But I know better than that since I saw his training. I almost felt bad for Hughes- that was really an embarassing performance and I was expecting a little more out of him. You have my word that he will not retire- Serra will get schooled and then they will have the Serra Hughes showdown as Hughes retirement bout. That heavyweight fight was a joke- If you let a sack of shit like Sanchez beat you down, what is the that division coming to ? Is Tim Sylvia reallly the best ? god no my final prediction- Brock Lesnar will end up not being so hot. I am sure he will win his first two stepping stone fights, but then will be a dud out.
RobbyRob		#331	[-]
Posts: 842 (12/30/07 5:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didnt get to see it last night, that sounds awesome GSP beat Hughes again as I fucking hate Matt Hughes, and thats cool that Liddell finally got a win so maybe he can work his way back to the title contention. Were any of the other fights any good?
joeyboy40	answer	#332	[-]
Posts: 365 (12/30/07 7:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobbyRob- I really enjoyed this pay per view. It was the one I would not want to miss (because I am a huge Chuck fan) Hughes was totally dominated by St Pierre- It was sad and overall a bad fight. It was good in the sense you could see a master in St Pierre who has worked hard on the ground game and throwing Hughes around like a rag doll. You would have enjoyed seeing that Liddel and Silva was a GREAT fight- beginning to end. I kept thinking Chuck was going to screw up by doing his takedowns and backfist punches. He went balls out. Silva was getting hit SOOOO hard and not falling. Silva was swinging for the fences during exchanges and Chuck got a bit lucky by not getting hit (his specialty) Machida over Sokojoudou was fun to watch- I liked seeing Machida dominate his opponent. Sokojoudou was all hype and looked like crap. So no this fight was not competitive Sanchez vs. Paleilie was really boring. Paleilei was standing around doing basically nothing while Sanchez pounded on him. He was so tired he could not even throw a punch. really embarassing. He kept looking at the ref hoping he would just put him out of his misery. Sanchez is also a joke in my opinion Manny Gamburian dominated his opponent with two takedowns. Another boring fight. It was cool though because after Manny called out Nate Diaz saying he was not the real winner of the TUF. He wants to beat down Nate Diaz. I think he will kick his ass just like he was doing before the shoulder issue One fight I did like was Clementi beating Guillard. I cannot stand Melvin Guillard (except when he pasted our good buddy Gabe Ruediger). Bunch of hype before the fight about the bad blood between these two. Most of the time this is exaggerated or staged. But after Clementi submitted Guillard he stood over him and taunted him. Guillard tried to come after him but was stopped by officials. Clementi hammered him when talking with Rogan, saying he was a punk and deserved to be put down, etc Overall Chucky/Silva made the night. The rest of the fights were nothing special
RobbyRob		#333	[-]
Posts: 843 (12/31/07 2:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah I really wanted to see this one. So the Chuck one went to a decision though right? I'm surprised the Melvin and Clementi fight even made it on the PPV, I think they both fucking suck. And both always seem way too unprofessional, especially Melvin, and I guess Clementi was just as bad taunting at the end then. Im surprised Dana White would even keep shitheads like that around since they make fighters all look like assholes. I hope that Manny does beat Nate Diaz's ass, I think he's the worst winner from any of the seasons. I think about almost any of the guys from last season would kill Diaz assuming he went up or they went down in weight. I dont know who Machida or Sokojoudou are. Wasnt there some shit about GSP not wanting to wear the belt or somthing until after he beats Serra? And was Serra even there?
Kirblar		#334	[-]
Posts: 5284 (12/31/07 2:40 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Melvin and Clementi have a legit personal grudge. That's why it made the card and why there was so much taunting going on.
joeyboy40		#335	[-]
Posts: 366 (12/31/07 2:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	yeah GSP took off the belt and said thanks but he would wait to claim the belt when he fights Serra- he was very respectful of Serra and said he lost his title to the better man that day- said it will be a different result next time then he will wear the belt proudly
Arrogant Dreamer		#336	[-]
Posts: 3539 (12/31/07 3:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Forrest is the coach for the new season of the UFC? Didnt I say how awesome that would be like three pages back?
Shinjo5		#337	[-]
Posts: 1919 (12/31/07 3:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyone check out the Fedor fight this morning on HDnet? The reaction he got from the Japanese crowd makes me think he could run for God there and win.
LunaSoma		#338	[-]
Posts: 2421 (12/31/07 4:20 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GSP just totally crushed Hughes...I felt like I was watching a lion attack prey or something. It was awesome and GSP is super-classy. I didn't enjoy the Chuck/Wanderlei fight as much as I would have if Chuck lost. I know it was a good fight but I can't stand the Iceman(I know I'm in the minority) so seeing him win kind of made me mad. I will say it was the only fight that had everyone I was watching with up and screaming at the TV though. Very exciting.
SurvivorSpoiler		#339	[-]
Posts: 71 (01/19/08 5:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyone else in Canada see on www.thescore.ca that they are occasionally hyping Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for a Hardcore Championship Fighting fight in Calgary on Feb 1st, 2008 against some bait that is going to get just ruined. Sometimes it features it on the homepage for the site but not all the time. Makes no sense tho, he's fighting Tim Sylvia the next fucking day on Feb 2nd for the vacant UFC heavyweight title. I've seen the commercials all over on tv here too on Headline Sports tho hyping the live fight on Feb 1st in Calgary. Does anyone know whats up with this. No fucking moron would even consider fighting the night before a huge title match. They're even selling tickets for the live fight's with Minatauro as the headline match of the night here in Calgary. Tonight's card is pretty weak but I'm going with Penn over Stevenson via submission in the 1st or 2nd round and Gonzago to get upset by Werdum, none of the other fights are even worth mentioning. Also, Jason MacDonald just signed his 2008 contract and was saying UFC 83 or 84 will be in Canada on April 19th. I'm thinking GSP will fight Serra finally on his home turf. Love this sport, should be some good tilts ahead.
Shinjo5		#340	[-]
Posts: 1936 (01/19/08 7:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is there a case made that... Spoiler [+] Marcus Davis is a legit contender in the 170lb division?

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