"Conversations With Dead People" and "Lies My Parents Told Me" were pretty fucking awesome, though, even though season 7 as a whole sucked.
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Posts: 4631 (08/03/09 10:53 PM) I'm not drunk
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I loved the first episode of season 7 but the season didn't pan out. They brought Buffy back to the school and had some great scary stuff there and then
just didn't do much with it. The episode when Willow returns is awesome too. That flesh-eating demon, gacccck that was horrifying.
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Posts: 12841 (08/09/09 7:14 AM) Registered user |
I'm on season six now.
I love Anya's fear of bunnies, her bursting out into song about the bunnies during the musical episode 
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Posts: 1145 (08/09/09 7:16 AM) |
Floved Once More with Feeling
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Posts: 4698 (08/09/09 8:20 AM) I'm not drunk
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I am decidedly PRO anything that has to do with fucking Spike. I was never a huge fan of the Buffy/Angel romance because he was such a shitty actor back then.
It was cheesy and childish. So I liked Smashed/Wrecked etc.
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Posts: 1604 (08/09/09 8:49 AM) Registered user |
I never watched this show while it was on- we didn't have WB, but I recently watched it all on DVD. Anya was by far the best character. I'm working on
watching all of Angel right now, I've gotten about halfway through the fourth season. I was really enjoying the series until Connor came along. Hate him
with a seething passion. The only reason I'm still watching is for Lorne and the promise that Spike will return.
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Posts: 12842 (08/09/09 11:16 AM) Registered user |
I agree with the spike sex. I love spike, he's an interesting character. More interesting than Angel.
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Posts: 10383 (08/09/09 11:02 PM) Registered User |
bumlets1 wrote: Season 5 is probably the best season ever so don't worry about Connor sinking the show. |
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Posts: 1311 (08/10/09 7:54 AM) Registered user |
Meatball, wait until you get to "Selfless," the greatest Anya episode ever, if not the greatest of the whole series.
Season 7 was one good idea (activate the slayers) that was stretched out over 20 episodes. Too many good ideas that they chickened out on - the First Evil was supposed to be the devil (and then they got scared); Buffy was going to lose her powers early in the season and not get them back until the end (Gellar balked, as she did at the idea that Buffy would be turned at some point); and they really chickened out on the idea that a Slayer is part-demon - one idea was that if a slayer lives too long then they become very dangerous, worse than anything they originally fought (they thought it was too much like the Dark Willow storyline, and by that point Hannigan and Gellar hated each others' guts for all the shit Gellar had done to her so they didn't think they'd get the emotion they wanted from Bad Buffy v. Good Willow).
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Posts: 820 (08/10/09 8:09 AM) Registered User |
Tigernanama wrote:Where did you get all that from? All of those ideas would have been awesome! I don't see how they could back out of the bad slayer storyline though. It wouldn't be fair for Buffy's character for her to sacrifice so much for her calling then have it be her inevitable undoing. Total agreement about Selfless! I know people are quick to point out some other episodes, but I personally thought Selfless was the best episode of Season 7. |
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Posts: 1312 (08/10/09 12:46 PM) Registered user |
I forget exactly where I was reading it, but behind the scenes people were coming out of the woodwork during Season 7 to tell all. What little I remember:
Xander - drinking problem and weight gain Whedon - turning actors against one another for his own amusement (those Shakespeare reading parties? Supposedly total mindfucks) Willow - when she got popular, Gellar turned on her, calling her fatass and no talent and so on, and REALLY ripped into her during the singing episode (and we all know she can't sing); Seth Green bolted because she was being a bitch. Apparently she tried it with Anya, and she just about beat the shit out of Gellar, who never tried it again. That's mostly a stuntwoman in demon make up during the sword fight in Selfless, and not because it was dangerous - they didn't want Gellar swinging a sword at Anya, given how they loathed one another. Rumor has it that Gellar was the one who pushed for her to die in the finale instead of the originally planned Andrew, so she could never come back. There was a LOT more - bottom line, the official story of them being all in love was total bullshit (and apparently Angel was, at one point, even worse, right around the time that Cordelia was coming and going).
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Posts: 10023 (08/10/09 12:49 PM) Registered User |
Someone needs to release a book ASAP. I felt bad for Xander the last season. He was always my favorite character and it seems like other than Anya, he had
nothing to do. He was the one that brought Willow down, but that was about it. Even Andrew took over the comedic sideckick role in season 7.
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Posts: 11424 (08/10/09 12:58 PM) Registered user |
I'd start drinking too if I had to deal with SMG in the final years. I heard her nickname was the "Ice Princess".
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Posts: 320 (08/10/09 2:07 PM) |
the first 8 episodes of season 7 were fucking amazing(or solid at least), than came episode 9 "never leave me" and the whole season went straight to
hell ( minus the final ep "chosen").
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Posts: 320 (08/10/09 2:07 PM) |
the first 8 episodes of season 7 were fucking amazing(or solid at least), than came episode 9 "never leave me" and the whole season went straight to
hell ( minus the final ep "chosen").
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Posts: 821 (08/11/09 1:47 AM) Registered User |
Tigernanama wrote:I knew Sarah and Alyson didn't get along, but I didn't know it was that bad. What went down between Buffy and Anya? From what I heard, Emma was the one who suggested Anya die in the finale. She did not want to do any returns to the franchise after the finale. Its consistent with Whedon's comments about the finale. He wanted to have a main character die to give the episode some impact. He felt that the audience might not be too attached to Andrew or Wood yet to really care if they died (Faith too, or maybe he was saving her for the spinoff). He also did not want to have any of the main four die and it felt too cruel to kill Dawn then have Buffy relatively unaffected at the end, so it was basically down to Anya. |
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Posts: 4283 (08/11/09 3:37 AM) I want a penis in my vagina like NOW!!!! |
Shagnanigans wrote:COULD NOT AGREE MORE!<3<3<3<3<3 Spike Love<3 |
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Posts: 1314 (08/11/09 7:17 AM) Registered user |
No idea if the gossip I read is any more accurate than that, myopics - if I can dig up that thread where the behind the scenes people were spilling their guts
I'll post it, but the story goes that Whedon was constantly telling every actor a different story until he had them all screwed up and turned against each
other. He'd make a lot of promises about spin-offs and side projects (Eliza is supposedly pissed at the number of times she was promised a Faith show,
putting off other work, only to have Whedon do something else - same with the Ripper project and Giles). Andrew was the original death, that's been said a
few places, but supposedly that death didn't have enough weight. They even shot it it that way. I can believe just as easily the switch to Anya for the
sake of adding more pathos, but it's so abruptly shot that I believe it to be a last minute change. The Emma/Gellar bad blood stems from pure jealousy -
all the side characters kept getting more popular than Buffy herself, and by the time they added Dawn, Gellar was losing her mind. But it's all gossip -
take it with a grain of salt.
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Posts: 7150 (08/11/09 7:28 AM) |
Juicy! I didn't know about all this drama. Thank God the angelic Charisma Carpenter was gone by that time.
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Posts: 3689 (08/11/09 8:01 AM) Registered User |
Funny -- I've been re-watch BtVS the past few weeks. I'm just starting Season 5. It's amazing how I never get tired of this show and can watch it
over and over again.
I remember reading at the time, that during S4 the network told Joss to tone down the sex talk and sex scenes. That's why they did the crappy episode where Riley and Buffy having sex was fueling a demon -- it was Joss' way of giving the finger to the network. And was there ever a scarier episode than "Hush"? I think not. And Spike was the BEST character on that show. |
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