And I wouldn't write Joan off as not brainy - she's pretty savvy. I would say she's at least as smart as that idiot Bohemian artist chick Don was banging. (What he saw in her I'll never know.)
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I think he would definitely diddle where Roger has diddled simply because Roger diddled there. Don's not happy with Roger anymore, not since the Betty
incident, and now Roger is on Duck's side. Remember last season where he matched Roger drink for drink and oyster for oyster at lunch and then
orchestrated a 23-floor climb just to get under Roger's skin? What better way to get back at Roger for his slights (real and perceived) than by banging
his "drop of strawberry jam in a glass of milk?"
And I wouldn't write Joan off as not brainy - she's pretty savvy. I would say she's at least as smart as that idiot Bohemian artist chick Don was banging. (What he saw in her I'll never know.) |
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Kind of a blah episode. Easily the weakest of the series. Also, I really hope the subplot involving Bobbie and Don goes away fast.
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And I wouldn't write Joan off as not brainy -OK, I'll take that back--setting the glass of scotch where the mouthy little brat could drink it was genius. She just doesn't think that being smart is one of her most usable assets. |
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OG sofa wrote: Joan wasn't nearly that big in the pilot episode last year. They've certainly added to her endowments. |
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hummm...
trinity, as an ep of a television show i would agree that this one was not up to "an ep of a television show" standards. we want this, expect that, look for the other thing... maybe its just me (and being an outed "mad men" apologist) but after seeing four eps of mm season two i don't think that is what weiner is going for anymore. there was an amazing amount of shit going on here tonight, in a "when you see the rest of the eps you will understand" kind of way. weiner has already stated that his vision is five seasons ending in 1969. i'd bet that fucker already has that deal in place to do those five seasons for amc. that is why he can present this epic at his leisure. i've read a lot about how david chase described "the sopranos". season one was about this, season two about that... weiner is doing this exact same thing. and i am not criticizing him in any way. i am here for the ride. remember, this is cable television. it does not live week to week depending upon ratings. cable commits to seasons regardless. a very different game. mad men is not going to disappear from your television screen because of network cancellation. it's not tv, it's cable... you might disappear as a viewer if you get bored... but mad men will be here. oh, and angelica! Angelica2003 wrote: yeah, i got the whole "scotch that little imp into sleepdom" bit, but i just couldn't buy it. i remember the first time i ever tried hard liquor. it was like drinking gasoline. i think a better scene would be joan holding "princess don's" head over a stove without lighting the pilot to get her to sleep... mouthy little brat, indeed. joan does have big ones, betty too... |
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OG sofa wrote: I couldn't buy it either. No way could a little girl drink such hard liquor. However, she did make the strongest Bloody Mary I've ever seen. It wasn't even a cocktail glass that she filled with vodka, it was a tumbler to which she added a few tablespoons of tomato juice. Wow. No wonder Betty forgot to give the kids dinner that night. Lots of anger seething just below the surface in this episode, too. |
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trinity17888 wrote: I couldn't disagree more. This episode was pure poetry; it's amazing what they can do without tricky cinematography and fast editing and no manipulative music or bravado acting. Peggy's sister going to confession to get what she wanted was so beautifully reflective of Mrs. Draper at the shrink's. |
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wow.
nice... true. |
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GlamsSlam |
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I love the bitch sister.. man is she a petty bitch. But I kept thinking "Isn't Peggy a little old for the Priest" and that was before he knew she
had a kid.. now you will never stop him from coming to dinner.
Speaking of kids, I love a great "mixologist" and that kid of Betty and Don's is HIRED. No wonder she had no problem downing that scotch, the apple doesn't fall far from the drunk tree. And clearly she is taking after daddy asking the sex questions... Betty is definitely heading for a vacation to the Valley sooner vs later. She loathes raising kids but having a bartender makes it easier.. David Hasselholf might want to adopt Bobby if he could pour like that. Looks like Duck got his nuts on a plate.. too bad so sad.. and Roger well he just got his nuts out again... love the hooker she looks like Rachel Ray. |
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SuitSnob wrote: I follow suit. The storylines are more subtle than most shows, which I fully appreciate. This show has a smart audience, so it doesn't need to
underscore, highlight, finger point or neon sign the direction it's going in. In particular, the confession of Peggy's sister is going to be a
catalyst for some great moments of this show. Every episode I watch makes me want more. And it makes me damn thirsty!
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EmmaPeel |
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I like Colin Hanks just fine, but his presence as the priest just took me out of the suspension of disbelief.
I kept saying, "That's Tom Hanks' kid" |
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This season has been all about the home life. Relationships, kids, marriage, religion, etc...
It's very different from last season's structure, and it feels like we have a ways to go before we'll be able to see the forest instead of the trees. |
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You know Sally's been "testing" the drinks she mixes to make sure she's got them right, so her taking that drink was no surprise to me at
all.
The wife and I disagree about the whole "How was your day thing". I said sometimes when you've had a horrible day at the office, going home and simply forgetting about is the best thing to do. She disagrees. She thinks you should share it when someone wants to know. I feel I'm right and she knows I'm wrong. |
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That is male female dynamics.. women are communicators and believe that talking is a great way of releasing tension, etc.. but not all women.. see Swingtown...
Janet is the most uptight of the lot... it depends on the women.. I hate the "how was your day" and most men do as well.. but again I think men are
much bigger gossips and talkers than they used to be.. the new generation have nothing else to talk about so work is all they talk about BORING... and men are
much more "dishy" about their lives to other men...
So you are not wrong, she is not wrong.. you have very classic forms of communication style.. Read a book on that by Deborah Tannen she one of the foremost experts on male - female communication styles.. |
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Kirblar wrote: Yes that's it. Also, there's too little Joan (her sickly look when confronted with babysitting was fabulous), not enough Pete, no Rachel and not enough of the other mid-level guys at the office, although I realize Harry and his wife are too bland to hang a much of a story on. I'm even missing the interesting, but now-defunct supporting characters we were getting at this point in the first season... people like Helen Bishop and Midge. I can only hope they're building to something.I still love the character of Betty... she is seriously screwed up. |
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peggy's "poor me", plump sister...what a bitter bitch. |
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maxxfisher wrote: Don can't even tell his wife that "I am the son of a whore and raised by whackos and hate my family to the point that I changed my identity" so I imagine talking about the office is out too...
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Don can't even tell his wife that "I am the son of a whore and raised by whackos and hate my family to the point that I changed my identity" so I imagine talking about the office is out too...The last scene when he says, "my dad beat the helll out of me every day and I was twice as bad as he is" was pretty powerful. Cogitate on that for a while, cold Nordic bitch. I'm starting to hate how she picks on that kid. His little "what did your dad like to eat?" had me bawling. Guess I'm a sucker for poor little messed up liars with puppy dog eyes. |
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Betty for some reason makes me think of a certain sucks poster.. a raging bitch... NOT ME. . well I am but I am not blonde. The kid is fucked up because well
Daddy and Mommy drink like fish and don't talk.. happy in the burbs anyone?
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