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NeonTetra67		#2541	[-]
Posts: 5290 (10/01/08 1:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I fuckin' love the Elisabeth dogpile. And then Miss Piggy came in and I cannot tell her apart from Sherri.
seaguy		#2542	[-]
Posts: 12850 (10/01/08 1:15 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Poor poor Elisabeth.
JoeJoeJunior		#2543	[-]
Posts: 2147 (10/01/08 1:18 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Montaname wrote: Sitcoms should have so much ability to inspire laughs. Holy shit, I think you're on to something! If they were to take a bunch of Elizabeth's "best moments" (for lack of a better term), add in some of the dumbass things Sherri has said, throw a laugh track over the whole thing....SITCOM GOLD.
realrealityfan		#2544	[-]
Posts: 1017 (10/01/08 1:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry, but Elizabeth isn't poor...Being married to an NFL Quarterback and offers from Fox News....The Hasselbacks don't have that worry.
seaguy		#2545	[-]
Posts: 12851 (10/01/08 1:21 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Exactly. Then the "poor elisabeth having to put up with __________" is stupid. She makes a TON of money on this show, so I don't feel sorry for the uptight bitch.
Liquidsunshine		#2546	[-]
Posts: 2567 (10/01/08 1:22 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	seaguy wrote: realrealityfan wrote: BTW...Pro Dems will be VERY happy to hear that such an impartial person will be Moderator of the VP Debate......"VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book"...... Will she be asking easier questions to Biden? The answer is no. If Sarah can't handle tough questions, then she doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the White House. She can't even handle softball questions from Katie Couric for crying out loud. And back on topic....anyone seen any YouTubes yet? I'll see what I can round up something. Not only does the woman's book have nothing to do with her questions to BIDEN, but the McCain/Palin camp has no reason to whine about anything being biased. They bitched and cried to the Commission on Presidential Debates to get the Veep debate format changed to suit poor wittle Palin. Wouldn't want her to have to go through, you know, an actual debate where there might be direct exchange. Wouldn't be good for her precious nerves and delicate disposition.
seaguy		#2547	[-]
Posts: 12852 (10/01/08 1:28 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	http://www.huffingtonpost...elbeck-fumb_n_130913.html
sugarrhill		#2548	[-]
Posts: 3677 (10/01/08 1:30 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pinotenvy, I love when Elizabeth fans applaud her for "sticking to her guns." That kind of thinking got us into Iraq and has kept us there. That kind of thinking made us believe that out economy was fundamentally strong until the bottom fell out. The problem most people have with Elizabeth is not that she's conservative; it's that she doesn't know how to defend her positions properly. And she shouldn't be excused of her ineptitude because she isn't a real journalist. The show is about women who express their own personal views. If she can't articulate her view properly then she should be called out on it. This whole "poor Elizabeth" bullshit continues the belief that women are inherently victims. She's a big girl. She should be able to defend herself. If she were actually able to defend herself then the ridicule would fall on others. She hasn't been able to defend her positions without looking like a self-entitled, insolent child. The show has had conservative talking heads come on the show that have at least maintained their composure. This show will continue with or without Elizabeth. It might not be as controversial and might go back to it's original roots. The idea of Elizabeth gettign her own show on FOX is absurd. I can't imagine who would watch. It's like the Palin nomination. A show centered wround her would be above her skill set. If Ann Coulter hasn't gotten her own show yet why the fuck would they give one to Elizabeth. Pro Dems will be VERY happy to hear that such an impartial person will be Moderator of the VP Debate......"VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book"...... Nice try. Now ask how many of the other moderators have written right leaning books. The answer would be more than you think. Personally, I don't think Palin will do much worse than she's done in her televised interviews. the bar has been set so low that she can only excel at this point. All she has to do is keep her responses 30 seconds long. Biden won't attack her because it would look "sexist." I doubt they'll even be that much back and forth between the two.
Liquidsunshine		#2549	[-]
Posts: 2568 (10/01/08 2:01 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	seaguy wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost...elbeck-fumb_n_130913.html "In terms of experience, she's actually been leading a microcosm of the United States of America," Elisabeth responded. Which is the same phrasing Palin herself used in the Katie Couric interview! Elisabeth probably had never even heard of the word "microcosm" until she heard Palin say it. And I'll bet you she still doesn't know what it means.
DouglassGirl		#2550	[-]
Posts: 506 (10/01/08 2:58 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	......"VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book"...... Sounds like the crap Fox Noise was spewing this morning. Actually Ifill is writing a book about the new generation of upcoming black politicians. It is not per se a book strictly about Obama. It will be released in January, long after the next President is decided. Even McCain was quoted as saying he felt Ifill would ask "totally objective" questions. This is a non-issue.
MikiBoi		#2551	[-]
Posts: 3917 (10/01/08 3:05 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	seaguy wrote: Exactly. Then the "poor elisabeth having to put up with __________" is stupid. She makes a TON of money on this show, so I don't feel sorry for the uptight bitch. Exactly, they all make a ton of money most in here would only dream of having in thier lives. She'll dry her t.ears shopping at Versace and using any leftover 100 bills to wipe her ass with it. I feel sorry for all the people who don't get paid to wake up at 10 am and just spew their views live on t.v. then go home and get paid great money for it. Sweet job. Plus her man is a pro football player and that alone brings in a ton of money.
PinotEnvy		#2552	[-]
Posts: 547 (10/01/08 3:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sugarrhill wrote: The show is about women who express their own personal views. If she can't articulate her view properly then she should be called out on it. But my point is that show did not start out as political grunge match, which is basically what it is now, with 3 people versus 1, in an all out shouting & bitching match. If this show was still a civilized talk show where they were all ALLOWED and ABLE to articulate their views without being attacked and she couldn't form a complete sentence, I would agree she should be removed from the show. I am not an Elisabeth fan (whatever that is) and I don't even agree with many of the things she says, but she was brought on the show to express her "view" and she should be allowed to do it without being attacked. Also, whether or not you agree with Elisabeth's opinions, I haven't seen her do or say anything hateful, vindictive or nasty. She seems like a nice person who tries to do the right thing. I'm sure her opinions & viewpoint (as do MOST people's opinions & viewpoints) will change throughout her life as she gets older and experiences more in life behind her. However, she has just as much right to her opinions based on her age and life experiences at this point as does anyone else. Actually, same thing goes for poor Sherri. Not everyone in this world can be blessed with a high IQ and Sherri has just as much right to voice her opinions and point of view as everyone else. Sherri was asked to be on the show. She has every right to represent for the people who believe the world is flat, and who have never voted and have no clue about politics, and who believe homosexuality is contagious. Let her speak, damn it. It is entertaining (though, at times, a bit sad) and maybe Sherri and viewers like her, can learn through Sherri's experiences on "The View." (If you haven't guessed yet, I like to stand up for the "little people" who are hated on so vehemently. I don't have to agree with someone to think that they are probably a good person with good intentions doing no harm. But heaven help you if you are mean, vile, disrespectful, and/or abusive . . . then I will hate you and I will take you down on these boards)
Halo8		#2553	[-]
Posts: 329 (10/01/08 3:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Rosie is probably sitting at home with a bowl of popcorn just laughing at all of this.
peanuts4444		#2554	[-]
Posts: 44 (10/01/08 3:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
realrealityfan		#2555	[-]
Posts: 1018 (10/01/08 3:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One thing Rosie has posted is that they don't make that much $$ as the show isn't syndicated.. Kelly Ripka makes around 12 million. Think Regis earns around 21 million and works only 4 days a week. Rosie asked for 1 million and was turned down!!
MikiBoi		#2556	[-]
Posts: 3918 (10/01/08 3:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	realrealityfan wrote: One thing Rosie has posted is that they don't make that much $$ as the show isn't syndicated.. Kelly Ripka makes around 12 million. Think Regis earns around 21 million and works only 4 days a week. Rosie asked for 1 million and was turned down!! Even paying someone like 500,000 dollars a year to spew their opinions for an hour is amazing money. Least for me it is, I'm sure some here might rake that in themselves.
sugarrhill		#2557	[-]
Posts: 3678 (10/01/08 4:18 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pinotenvy, I'm not questioning Elizabeth's right to voice her opinion. I'm questioning her ablility to do so. The show has proven that she is allowed to spew her idiocies, however, is isn't ABLE to do so because she's too busy being a shrill harpy. Essentially, she's the Sarah Palin on the View. "Stop picking on her!" I thought the show was about discussion. It's not s stump speech. When sharing your views with others be prepared to defend them. If you are not capable then be prepared to called a fucking idiot. You continue reinforce the women are victims stereotype. I don't have to agree with someone to think that they are probably a good person with good intentions doing no harm. And I don't even know where to start with this gem.
Tigernanama		#2558	[-]
Posts: 510 (10/01/08 4:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You can't buy this kind of karma. Aaahhhh. Refreshing after so many years of any moderate opinion being demonized as psychotic liberal leanings, it's great to see the Republicans getting the same treatment. I'm actually more embarassed for her than anything -- I mean, everything else aside, you're one fifth of a show where issues of national consciousness are being discussed -- are you telling me that you don't feel the need to do any research? That you're such an authority on an issue that you don't need to have even talking points ready to go? I'm a university prof teaching for 8 years, and I still act like it's the first lecture every time in terms of being prepared. If you're going to talk about Palin, wouldn't it be a good idea to have some information to defend her with? Oh, Lizzie...in a weird way, I'll miss you when you've fled to the gentle, manly arms of Fox News. First thing, Pinot, it's "grudge" match, not grunge. And second, you're espousing the same crap that all of her defenders do -- that her viewpoint is somehow being trampled on by the others. This is hardly the case -- if you watch closely, usually it's Liz who is talking over the others and stamping down on their opinion as foolish while shouting hers. And if she's asked to defend her position -- and usually this is exactly what they do, they ask her to explain -- she throws a fit, pouts, or starts shouting again. Asking someone to defend their position, or at the very least, explain it so it can be understood, is hardly attacking them. You're right, the show is just called The View, so there's no promise of accuracy or fairness, but if you're going to shout as many loony tunes opinions as she does, you'd better believe someone is going to ask you to explain yourself, and if you've got nothing to say, then you pretty much brought it on yourself. In short -- she could believe that Hitler was right, and although I would never agree, if she could give a clear, cogent argument, I'd at least believe her stupid opinion was based on something other than what she watched on Fox last night. Last Edited By: Tigernanama 10/01/08 4:24 PM. Edited 1 times.
Montaname		#2559	[-]
Posts: 297 (10/01/08 4:40 PM) Hey! I kinda like it here! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pinot, I genuinely enjoy your posts, I really do. I don't agree with everything you say, but they are well thought out. See, I can appreciate someone who speaks intelligently even if I disagree with what they say. If only Lizzie could do what you do. I think the focus of the show has changed as the country has changed since 9/11. It seems ridiculous to think they could have a segment entitled "Hot Topics" and not include the the women's views on the war, politics and the economic mess that the country is in. I much prefer that to a discussion of the latest white woman/child who has disappeared and is is thought to have been killed by her husband/father or whatever is the media topic de jour. The women don't have to be experts, they just have to be able to coherently express their thoughts on whatever topic is being discussed. And yes, Joy and Whoopi can often be shrill and rigid in their positions, but I have heard both of them call out their favored political candidates for screw-ups, while Lizzie NEVER is objective - much like what you hear on right-wing talk radio or on Lizzie's favorite tv network.
Marque Mywords		#2560	[-]
Posts: 2063 (10/01/08 4:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Looks like today was just the same old nonsense on "The View." The Unholy Trinity of Barbara/Whoopi/Joy is still attempting a forcible conversion of Elisabeth. But they're so angry and bitter now that they're making even less sense than usual. Barbara asks Elisabeth, once again, why she can't think more like a Democrat. Barbara, of course, has never asked Joy or Whoopi why they can't try to understand Republican views and agree with Republicans more often. But of course, in Barbara's "objective" view, there is no need for Whoopi or Joy to ever do such a silly thing. And there's Whoopi, yelling that none of the four candidates is qualified to be President. OK, fine. But then they go on to barrage Elisabeth and demand that she explain why Sarah Palin is qualified. Elisabeth's response was fine: Why shouldn't THEY have to explain why Barack Obama is qualified?? After all, if none of the candidates is ready for the job, why is it only the Republican who must be vetted? After seeing this clip, I now believe that Barbara is trying to deliberately provoke Elisabeth into some kind of on-air incident so that Barbara can "regretfully" fire her, so she won't have to wait until next spring for Elisabeth to walk. Barbara said something today like "We love having you on the show, Elisabeth." Yeah, right. What a nightmare it must be to work for Barbara. After seeing how easily she lies, I believe Donald Trump was telling the truth when he said Barbara ripped Rosie behind her back. My guess is that this has been brewing ever since Rosie got fired. The libs at the ABC offices were probably whining to Barbara that if Rosie lost her job, then Elisabeth should, too. I noticed when the new season started that fall that Barbara's attitude toward Elisabeth had changed. That was when she started asking Elisabeth condescending questions like, "So you'd never vote for a Democrat?" Elisabeth had slain the dragon Rosie, and they will never forgive her for it. The show is becoming more and more unpleasant to watch. Is this Barbara's idea of "toning it down," as was reported elsewhere? And is this really how Barbara Walters wants to wrap up her long, illustrious career? By hosting a witches' coven of angry, intolerant shrews? Elisabeth Hasselbeck has all of my respect and sympathy. Whether you agree with her or not, nobody deserves this kind of treatment. Last Edited By: Marque Mywords 10/01/08 4:55 PM. Edited 3 times.

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