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I'm surprised to see you here, STH, as you are one of the "spoiler-lite" people. Be careful in here.

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I know you're teasing me, Aslans. **winks**

Actually, I'm not all that spoiler-lite. I've been a strong proponent for spoil-me-rotten! More, more, MORE was my mantra! (Still is, to a great extent.) It really didn't interfere with my enjoyment of the show, and it was kewl when we figured out something. Buncha Magnum P.I.'s, us!

Way back in March, news of "snake in the mailbox" came out. No biggie. Each year's finale final scene has a code name. We had the challah, and was the other the bagel? Anyway, it was kewl just knowing the code name. When we found out in Season 1 that the hatch was gonna be blown open (and probably was the finale scene), it wasn't ruinous. Anyone who didn't figure out that the hatch was gonna be blown open in the finale just wasn't THINKING. When we got hints that Season 2's final scene was likely to be off-island--well, hey, that was kewl. Maybe it'd cast a new light on the losties' actual situation--and, in a way, it DID.

Snake got spoiled to be connected with Jack about the same time that the Finale was declared to be Jack-centric. Many of us were irked that Jack got ANOTHER centric! But that he'd be connected to the Snake? No surprise. After all, Desmond was the centric for the Season 2 finale--and THAT final scene was connected to Desmond, yeah?

Though the flashforward concept bugged the heck out of me, learning of IT, in and of itself, didn't really eat at me. Given Jack's journey in those scenes, I'd have probably figured out it was FF very early in the finale eppy, anyway.

What bugged me, then? When the AICN spoiler came out, it totally blindsided us. Many of us had followed Insiderscoop synopses for awhile. And IS didn't even give out every last detail! But for my part, I found that knowing THIS much about the eppy bothered me. Heck, enough bothers me about LOST as it is. So I (like many others who found that there WAS such a thing as knowing a bit too much), stopped reading IS. It was easy to do this. Dark UFO announced that IS did not want his synopses to be posted, in their entirety, elsewhere. Surprisingly, sites seemed to honor that. Instead, like Dark UFO, they simply posted a LINK to either Dark UFO or directly to the synopsis. That way, people could choose whether to link to a synopsis that might give away more than even a spoiler addict wanted to know.

At the Other Site I Frequent, there was a SPECIFIC thread for IS synopses, anyway. We who didn't wanna be overspoiled simply didn't enter that thread. All was well.

Neither lost108 nor AICN extended this courtesy. They just blatantly put it out there for everyone to see. Yes, it is true that in a spoiler board, ya come in, ya take your chances. But even if we'd been properly warned about what we were about to read (we weren't; the prologue made it sound like a general overview, or spec from someone close to the show), we could've skipped over. As it was, by the time one started reading the thing, you realized in a couple of paragraphs that this was a play-by-play. Yeah, we could stop reading--but by then, a nice chunk of the eppy had been totally spoiled to us!

Many were like me, not visitors to AICN. But those who were got all "Oh, Boy! Have I got a scoop to spread to other sites!" And they did. NO links. Just copied the whole danged thing to their posts.

If things had been restricted to a single AICN Synopsis thread, we STILL could've avoided that thread and been less than fully informed of the eppy's content. But unlike IS, the details of the synopsis showed up in virtually EVERY spoiler thread in the forum!! And once details appeared, of course they were going to be discussed and discussed and. . . .

We were spoiled already, but if we hadn't been, we'd have been left with two choices: opt out of the spoiler forum COMPLETELY (being left out of non-play-by-play spoiler discussions and unable to chat with our fellow spoiler addicts), or just resign ourselves to it and keep on reading and posting. Many of us just sighed and resigned ourselves.

I have no illusions that it will be any different next season. And I can certainly understand the spoilers-mean-ANY-spoiler argument. It's a spoiler board, after all! It really surprised me to find out I drew the line somewhere. Up till then, I was all "bring it on!" in my attitude. I think it is horrible that there's no way to restrict the full synopsis spoiler to a single thread. But there probably isn't. (Here at Sucks, you may pull it off. But I won't get that lucky at other sites. So once I've been blindsided there, I'll probably show up at this thread, too. Why not? After all, I KNOW now, so what's the point of avoiding it?)

It's not enough to "have will power." I, and many others, I'm sure, would be happy to avoid the overkill spoilers--if we could. But the details of those spoilers show up EVERYWHERE. So there's no avoiding them. Unless we stay out of spoiler boards completely. We NEED the spoilers. If getting everything but the play-by-plays is impossible, then we have to accept the play-by-plays to get at everything else.

Yeah, have a spoiler-lite thread if you wish. Human nature being what it is, there are those who'll not honor the rules there. Or not bother to go to page one and read them--they just wanna post what they've learned, and the title of the thread DOES say "Spoiler," after all. Most posters will TRY to honor the "lite" rules--but the rotten apples will join the barrel, anyway.

I guess what bugs me is that there really isn't a way to visit spoiler sites without running smack into the too-much-info spoilers--or discussions about them. It, well, SUCKS. But that's life. I'll do the best I can. But I need spoilers. So I guess that means I'm gonna have to know everything. Rats.

Thanks for trying to find solutions, though, Anti and everyone! On behalf of, er, me--I appreciate it.

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In today's Vine show, you tell us that a certain castmember on Lost is on the outs with most of the other castmembers.

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Almost certain to be Foxy. He has connections and "ins" with TPTB. They talk to him; he talks to them. Worst of all, he knows much, if not all, of what's happening on the show--WAY in advance. Meanwhile, the rest of the cast gets the script for the next eppy a couple days or so before shooting starts. They don't get much of a clue about ANYTHING. (Dom did, being told in February that Charlie was gonna die. How nice of them.)

Cast members are welcome to make suggestions to TPTB, writers, directors, et al. But more than one has implied that they aren't really being listened to. No, not just Naveen. Jorge has dropped hints, too. Others have just shrugged and taken a "we'll just do as we're told" attitude. Much of the joy on set has diminished. Everyone's professional about it. But unhappy. Terry may be the embodiment of that. All this is what I've gleaned from stories/spoilers/rumors/discussions over the past few MONTHS over at the Other Site, BTW.

With that kind of atmosphere, it is small wonder that the apparent favoritism Fox gets would cause friction with other cast members, who are feeling more and more like privileged hired hands (none deny what a wonderful opportunity working on LOST is; flying "blind," as it were, though, isn't comfy).

Don't really blame Foxy; Matt's Biz-savvy, knows people, knows how to deal with them, and really does "work" the show, both on and off set. The extra bonus he got in Season 2 (which led to raises for everyone when THAT got out!), he earned. But like in any business, when one has an "in" and the others don't, that just, well, rankles. Human nature, and all that.

That's how Kristin's remarks sound to me, anyway!