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Mikester		#21	[-]
Posts: 7364 (10/04/09 10:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crystal, Kenny... actually, anyone from Gabon. I get that everyone has different taste but I seriously just don't get the Fang love.
Katy Carney		#22	[-]
Posts: 8715 (10/04/09 10:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: Or let's hate on the Toms and Terrys despite the fact that they were big characters, and let's praise the himbot guy who got booted on episode 4 because he had awsome blue eyes. Tom and Terry are NOT the same, and you do Tom a huge disservice by always grouping them together. I like Tom (prob my favo male winner) but Terry was gigantic dickwad. And Silas's eyes ARE worthy of their own fanbase.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#23	[-]
Posts: 9268 (10/04/09 10:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: Is this thread about widespread fandom or the kind of cult fandom found here at Sucks? Sydney fans, for instance, are akin to people who like really obscure bands. Mostly widespread fandom, but it's hard to tell who actually has a huge fanbase due to thread jacking. Besides, I understand why Sydney was well liked among some people. What I don't understand is how Cirie is considered to be not only a ahem brilliant player, but also better than most of the winners. Also, I don't see where claims of her being humorous come from, since her personality is pretty much akin to many different less appreciated castaways.
WylDawg		#24	[-]
Posts: 20369 (10/04/09 10:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	They had very different story archs because of their respective opposite circumstances. One was running the show and the other one had his back against the wall, which is mostly why I think Tom ended being a golden alpha-dad and Terry ended up being a bit more douchey. But at the basis they are from the same mold. Like Tina/Teresa, Jenna M/Parvati etc. And I definitely wasn't refering to Silas. Silas had more edit and personality in his short stay than most recent mactor bots who make the end game.
Mikester		#25	[-]
Posts: 7367 (10/04/09 10:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well there's a huge difference between who is popular at Sucks and who is popular with the overall audience. Just comparing the Sucks popularity polls to the "America's Choice" vote they do at the end of every season makes that pretty obvious. People bitch about bland pretty people or black women being too liked around her, but they should just be happy that Sucks isn't filled with Ozzmanda and Rupert fans
Thailandsurvivor		#26	[-]
Posts: 8172 (10/04/09 10:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TAR Addict wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: He is also a bully and a hypocrite who hogged air time in the worst season of all time. wait, are you sure your not talking about Terry? Terry wasn't a bully, but he was an arrogant douchebag. Tom wasn't that arrogant.
Thailandsurvivor		#27	[-]
Posts: 8173 (10/04/09 10:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: Without Palau, there is no CI. It was the original shitty season with a bloated cast full of mactors and awful twists. I actually really liked Angie, James, Steph, and Bobby Jon on Ulong, but we knew no one in the end game besides Tom (and arguably Ian) because of the terrible editing. Terrible editing that looks like it is happening again in Samoa. Not true at all. Even with someone as generally disliked as Kim Mullen, there was enough nuance in her edit to give a sense that she might have been telling the truth(That she was the only smart player in a tribe full of morons). The people became total props and subservient to the producer made "story" arc during Cook Islands. How does Kim relate to anything? Billy and Cao Boi both had decent edits/story arcs, too. So what? I'm talking about how Koror was completely ignored because they kept winning. Also, Palau did start the mactor trend. Yeah, there were a few in PI and more in Vanuatu, but they weren't all the typical strong boring ones we get now making up 90% of the cast.
gibson97		#28	[-]
Posts: 645 (10/04/09 10:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	marisa, betsy, dani, natalie b, alexis, erik r, pretty much all the fans from micronesia, gregg, cindy h, jonathan penner, susie
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#29	[-]
Posts: 9269 (10/04/09 10:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mikester wrote: Well there's a huge difference between who is popular at Sucks and who is popular with the overall audience. Just comparing the Sucks popularity polls to the "America's Choice" vote they do at the end of every season makes that pretty obvious. People bitch about bland pretty people or black women being too liked around her, but they should just be happy that Sucks isn't filled with Ozzmanda and Rupert fans I sometimes wonder who these casual fans come from. Even the CBS forums had people with sense in them who didn't take the "party line".
Katy Carney		#30	[-]
Posts: 8716 (10/04/09 10:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: What I don't understand is how Cirie is considered to be not only a ahem brilliant player, but also better than most of the winners. Also, I don't see where claims of her being humorous come from, since her personality is pretty much akin to many different less appreciated castaways. I think the deal with Cirie, at least for me, is that she was very well-rounded. She was a good strategist and positioned herself well (I think that's pretty fair), but she also was enough of a character to keep us entertained and enough of a real person to make us care. She was funny but also serious and determined. She had skills despite her couch potato early boot appearance. I agree that her fans can be a little aggressive but I think there's merit behind the idea that she's a Survivor A-lister. I get it. WylDawg wrote: They had very different story archs because of their respective opposite circumstances. One was running the show and the other one had his back against the wall, which is mostly why I think Tom ended being a golden alpha-dad and Terry ended up being a bit more douchey. But at the basis they are from the same mold. Like Tina/Teresa, Jenna M/Parvati etc. yeah I can see that.
Thailandsurvivor		#31	[-]
Posts: 8175 (10/04/09 10:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think the deal with Cirie, at least for me, is that she was very well-rounded. Heh.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#32	[-]
Posts: 9270 (10/04/09 10:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thailandsurvivor wrote: Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: Without Palau, there is no CI. It was the original shitty season with a bloated cast full of mactors and awful twists. I actually really liked Angie, James, Steph, and Bobby Jon on Ulong, but we knew no one in the end game besides Tom (and arguably Ian) because of the terrible editing. Terrible editing that looks like it is happening again in Samoa. Not true at all. Even with someone as generally disliked as Kim Mullen, there was enough nuance in her edit to give a sense that she might have been telling the truth(That she was the only smart player in a tribe full of morons). The people became total props and subservient to the producer made "story" arc during Cook Islands. How does Kim relate to anything? Billy and Cao Boi both had decent edits/story arcs, too. So what? I'm talking about how Koror was completely ignored because they kept winning. Also, Palau did start the mactor trend. Yeah, there were a few in PI and more in Vanuatu, but they weren't all the typical strong boring ones we get now making up 90% of the cast. The only Koror member totally shafted by the editing was Willard, and even he got a shout out by COby during the "merge" episode. This kind of shafting also happened previously in Vanuatu, and to a lesser extent as far back as Pearl Islands with Darrah. You can't compare them to the kind of horrible editing in the CI era, though, because CI was the first season that totally eliminated character development as a storytelling device, and replacing it with a "storyline" about how the evil Raro brats were eliminated and how ethnic diversity always triumphs.
patrickofthewhite		#33	[-]
Posts: 563 (10/04/09 10:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Stephenie, Ozzy, Candice, Kim M.
Erinnloveee		#34	[-]
Posts: 181 (10/04/09 10:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Amber, Parvati, Monica, Amanda, Kenny, Susie
Ahora		#35	[-]
Posts: 526 (10/04/09 10:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Marcus
Thailandsurvivor		#36	[-]
Posts: 8176 (10/04/09 10:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm not one to defend CI, but I'm just saying Palau came first and had the affect on me. Just as some (delusional) people consider Thailand the worst season of all time because it was the first "bad" season (although I severely disagree), Palau will always be the first with a 20 person cast. It will be the first where more than one random person in Zoe or Darrah was ignored. I guess Vanuatu had that case in some of the early boots, but Palau had multiple people in the end game in that situation. Janu, Gregg, Caryn, Jenn. Sure, they all had their moments, but it wasn't enough to me after being ignored for the entire first half of the season. Gregg was my pre show favorite, and I still somewhat liked him because of that, but it was just absurd. Why cast more people if you can't fit the air time in to show them? Why decide to devote the entire season to four people (Bobby Jon, Steph, Tom, and Ian)? Why have an awful twist to start off the season and get rid of two people? Why not just keep the cast smaller? Palau was the first season about shock value, and it ticked me off.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#37	[-]
Posts: 9272 (10/04/09 11:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Isn't it a popular theory around here that Thailand/Amazon/All Stars pissed off the casual audience enough to warrent changes in editing? And I agree with you about Palau, but I thought that the editing mistakes were made because of the cast size and not the mactorish cast, but CI was different. As I said, it was the first season to actively stop caring about character development.
WylDawg		#38	[-]
Posts: 20371 (10/04/09 11:09 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Isn't it a popular theory around here that Thailand/Amazon/All Stars pissed off the casual audience enough to warrent changes in editing? Thailand maybe, but not Amazon and for reason I think viewers actually liked All-Stars. I mean it's one of the few seasons they released on DVD. As far as the editing goes, I blame Rupert. The unexplainable love for him in PI I think is what pushed producers to handpick one character from here on out and make then entire season all about them. Which is why my two favorite post-ASS seasons are Panama and China because the editing was a lot more spreaded out.
GauchGauch		#39	[-]
Posts: 11 (10/04/09 11:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: Well no, not really. As long as the said contestant was a huge character, then I can see why some people would like them. I hate Boston Rob with every burning fiber of my body, but I get why some people like him. People like Jenn, Erinn or that lawyer that I can't even remember his name from Gabon, THOSE are the real head scratchers Dan ? Fanbases I don't understand : - Jenna Lewis - Sierra
Thailandsurvivor		#40	[-]
Posts: 8178 (10/04/09 11:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: Isn't it a popular theory around here that Thailand/Amazon/All Stars pissed off the casual audience enough to warrent changes in editing? Thailand maybe, but not Amazon and for reason I think viewers actually liked All-Stars. I mean it's one of the few seasons they released on DVD. As far as the editing goes, I blame Rupert. The unexplainable love for him in PI I think is what pushed producers to handpick one character from here on out and make then entire season all about them. Which is why my two favorite post-ASS seasons are Panama and China because the editing was a lot more spreaded out. Why do you hate Gabon then? That's why I loved the season, it's an all out free for all. Everyone had a chance to win, and only Jacquie was ignored. Compare that to a quarter of the cast in EI.

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