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SkyDreamer wrote:

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I realize that Erinn wasn't the strategic mastermind behind everything, but saying that Coach played a better game than her just doesn't make sense. How can you talk about honesty when Coach proved to be telling a lie in every other sentence? In the second immunity challenge he could barely walk. After they lost, he suggested them voting out Candace because she's the "cancer". The only reason he wanted her out because she threatened him. How does that keep in line with his brilliant "strategy"? He kept talking about taking the strong ones to the end, while he was the weakest person in every single challenge. Do you really think a guy who's talking about being captured by an Indian tribe is honest? I usually respect your opinion, but it seems like most of your tribe mates thought of him as a joke.

P.S why would Taj vote for Sierra?

The Taj vote for Sierra is really just a guess. Taj and Sierra spent some time on Exile and Taj was -very- loyal to her alliances, so I'm guessing she'd vote for Sierra out of loyalty. She didn't reall get to know Erinn until final 4, when JT and I went on reward together. I guess I can see her voting for Erinn as the underdog.

I agree there was a disconnect between the Coach persona and who Coach actually was, but that kind of "lying" is not the same as in-game lying, which he didn't really do. In fact, being there, Coach was remarkable for saying vague things that were literally true and people TOOK one way - but actually meant something else, thereby couching his real meaning. Like right before the merge he said something like, "Timbira now has the numbers, and we can start making plans for 1 or 2 weeks out", which Jalapao took to mean "They're voting us out," but which he actually meant - he's going to use Timbira's numbers to flip on Brendan. Or he'd say things like "We're going with the plan that we had when we walked into camp," which would mean one thing to one person and another to another - but never an outright lie. Or like Brendan would say, "We're going to vote out JT." And Coach would respond something like, "I think the tribe will vote together." And believe me he was honest! He told JT and me every plan that Tyson had!

I don't think most people thought of him as a joke. Brendan did and Erinn disliked him. But Tyson, though he would joke about Coach's grandiosity, was also very close to him. Debbie was very close with him. JT and I both really liked him.

ETA - Coach also was the one who went to JT and suggested we vote out Brendan, thereby totally flipping the tribe dynamics. Yes, that ended up screwing him over in the end. But we're assuming that he gets to the final 2 - in which case, that move probably would be seen to be crucial.

chapera rocks wrote:

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Coach would have easily made the end game with Timbira. He just needed to keep Brendan in check a bit better. The way Timbira imploded solidifies them collectively as the dumbest tribe to ever play the game.

I think the Exile twist also contributed a lot to the way this happened. It led to the Exile Alliance, which
1) Made Brendan and Sierra's primary alliance with Jalapao
2) Gave Tyson the time to get strategic control of Timbira
3) Made Tyson, Coach and Debbie suspicious of the ties that Brendan had with Jalapao

Basically the Exile twist and the Exile Alliance were part of what caused Timbira to fracture.

The same thing didn't happen on Jalapao because Taj and I never spoke to each other, so nobody guessed we were allies. And, heh, the only members of Jalapao in the merge were part of the EA.