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SuperJude		#1081	[-]
Posts: 14868 (11/02/09 8:41 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lexxan, how can you say he's the only good player? Galu won so much that it's sort of impossible to tell who is playing and who isn't based on edit. Think about, without Russell being removed, they STILL would be up 8-4 after a double eviction. No, Russell is the only story they felt like telling from a now defunct tribe that lost a whole lot. Individual game is where we see if he's really a strategist or just a useful vote in a Galu majority. -SJ™
Lexxan		#1082	[-]
Posts: 31 (11/02/09 8:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SuperJude wrote: Lexxan, how can you say he's the only good player? Galu won so much that it's sort of impossible to tell who is playing and who isn't based on edit. -SJ™ What you're saying is correct, but can you name me one person that's playing the game at Galu? I can name every person on Galu, and I haven't seen anybody play a decent game... unless you call imploding your Tribe a good game ofc. Natalie, Laura, Monica, Dave and John just started to play the game, but that's too little and too late. Russell atm is the only one I would consider worthy of winning the Million. I'm pretty sure he WON'T win it, but if no one else starts playing the game seriously, they'll have no other choice than handing it over to him... and you wouldn't want that to happen, would you? You know, I really crossing my finger that this is becoming something else than a "Russell Show"... but that's how it is now.<shrugs>
token lunatic		#1083	[-]
Posts: 27468 (11/02/09 9:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Galu won b/c they have 3 young bucks(John, Erik, Brett) and a fitness instructor as well as Laura, and the two airheads. Not to mention Russell S who had the will of an ox. He was like the Anti Osten, altho Osten had to be cast for pure comic relief(Jeff I'm a bag of atrophy right now ) Foa Foa has an evil hefty midget who was looking to be the both the troll AND the goat.
MajorTom		#1084	[-]
Posts: 1228 (11/02/09 10:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lexxan wrote: SuperJude wrote: Lexxan, how can you say he's the only good player? Galu won so much that it's sort of impossible to tell who is playing and who isn't based on edit. -SJ™ What you're saying is correct, but can you name me one person that's playing the game at Galu? I can name every person on Galu, and I haven't seen anybody play a decent game... unless you call imploding your Tribe a good game ofc. Natalie, Laura, Monica, Dave and John just started to play the game, but that's too little and too late. He just said it's impossible to tell because of the amount of Russhole that the producers are trying to make us lick. Which is right. Brett and Kelly could be geniuses (lawl) and we'd never know unless Russell made a comment about it.
JT4ever		#1085	[-]
Posts: 348 (11/02/09 10:20 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We've been shown a decent amount of Erik's game. You can argue that his biggest move so far (the puppet regime) was a bad idea (I personally think it was a terrible idea), but at least he's working angles. Before the guys showed their hand with the Shambo regime, Erik was running a majority alliance on the dominant tribe and they had their first target in the minority alliance (Monica) all set to be blindsided. Obviously, the merge is a tricky time for alliances in general and for obvious physical threats like Erik in particular, but he has both Shambo and a HII in his pocket to help him get through the initial stages.
token lunatic		#1086	[-]
Posts: 27470 (11/02/09 10:32 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So it's Erik vs Russevil. both have aces and both have HIIs. Dave's calling Shambo "dim" was shades of Fairplay saying Sandra would not be in the F4, nor would she win the million.
Lexxan		#1087	[-]
Posts: 35 (11/02/09 10:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, MajorTom, I agree for the most part. But I think that if Brett or Kelly were Strategic mastermind we would have had "hints" on those seemingly (firmly) hidden talents. You know, I think that they're focusing on Russell because the rest of the cast just sucks. They're showing Russelll as the big, Evil, Brilliant mastermind, though he hasn't been as remotely Evil as Boston Rob or Jonny Fairplay at this point. (we got Burning Jaison's socks, and the Katrina Lie, but that's about it) Not to mention that his strategy isn't really that good either. The only boots he truly influenced were Marisa and Liz, while he has backstabbed nearly every Foa Foa boot except Betsy. Not that great actually. If you ask me, they edited him like that for two reasons: 1) To Explain why he's the only Samoan in S20. 2) This Cast is completely oblivious about the Game called "Survivor". Like Erik said, this is not Club Med, but the majority (Save Russell, Shambo, Erik, Dave, Jaison) just act as if they are taking a holiday. Way to go.
SuperJude		#1088	[-]
Posts: 14869 (11/02/09 10:42 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	While they are nominally showing Erik and his strategy, I honestly think he's more the Galu Narrative than somebody who is making the endgame. I stand by what I posted, we can't tell because we haven't been SHOWN any strategy. We've been shown Shamu and maybe some of the Galu Boys. That's it. -SJ™ Last Edited By: SuperJude 11/04/09 7:13 AM. Edited 1 times.
BortBort		#1089	[-]
Posts: 1397 (11/02/09 4:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I second that emotion. With fuckwits like Matty in previous seasons its easy to see that they have no strategy, but this season its not as easy. Sure, Shambo is clearly a moron who will only get far if she is carried by the majority, but the rest of Galu be strategic masterminds that just haven't had a chance to flex their muscles yet...
cindidindi76		#1090	[-]
Posts: 20339 (11/02/09 7:24 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lexxan wrote: Yeah, MajorTom, I agree for the most part. But I think that if Brett or Kelly were Strategic mastermind we would have had "hints" on those seemingly (firmly) hidden talents. You know, I think that they're focusing on Russell because the rest of the cast just sucks. They're showing Russelll as the big, Evil, Brilliant mastermind, though he hasn't been as remotely Evil as Boston Rob or Jonny Fairplay at this point. (we got Burning Jaison's socks, and the Katrina Lie, but that's about it) Not to mention that his strategy isn't really that good either. The only boots he truly influenced were Marisa and Liz, while he has backstabbed nearly every Foa Foa boot except Betsy. Not that great actually. If you ask me, they edited him like that for two reasons: 1) To Explain why he's the only Samoan in S20. 2) This Cast is completely oblivious about the Game called "Survivor". Like Erik said, this is not Club Med, but the majority (Save Russell, Shambo, Erik, Dave, Jaison) just act as if they are taking a holiday. Way to go. Let me guess, you also think Rupert was a hero who should have been handed the game on a silver platter, and Sugar was a sweet, wonderful person?
co coach		#1091	[-]
Posts: 537 (11/03/09 1:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Post Merge: Natalie does all the work. Russhole sits on his ass and makes even more recycled "badass" confessionals.
Lexxan		#1092	[-]
Posts: 44 (11/03/09 1:47 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cindidindi76 wrote: Let me guess, you also think Rupert was a hero who should have been handed the game on a silver platter, and Sugar was a sweet, wonderful person? No, I think Rupert had a great personality and Survival skills, but his Social and Strategic Games were nonexistant. Sugar is a whiny, unstable and undeserving backstabber who had gotten such an inaccurate edit it made me nauseous. Her social game was shit.
SuperJude		#1093	[-]
Posts: 14897 (11/04/09 7:36 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm still curious as to what, exactly, Russell's magic strategy is. I get that he's voted off the females and that he couldn't protect his one ally, Ben. I get that he thinks Natalie is stupid and is key him reaching the finals. What I don't get is how he gets so much face time for a guy on a tribe that went from 10 players to 4 and couldn't pull itself up. He didn't seem to do anything to life his tribe's spirits. He thinks everybody is the dumbest person he's ever met and that they constantly do the dumbest things ever. One or two of these comments a season adds spice, now it's like...okay, we get it, everybody is stupid but Russell. 12 people left and we probably won't see any game from him for a couple rounds. If he makes F4 then maybe it's all worth it but so far it seems like editorial and their Smoke & Mirrors theory of editing. -SJ™
LadyGrinningSoul		#1094	[-]
Posts: 416 (11/04/09 4:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Agreeance to all that you just said. I would add that they've also shown us that Russhole seems to thrive in the conditions out there, at least mentally. Where everyone else was getting demoralized by the constant rain, he seemed to relish it. He doesn't complain about lack of food or tell us how crappy he feels. This is probably just the editing, but it fits into the "outlast" part of Survivor anyway.
blistering		#1095	[-]
Posts: 6671 (11/04/09 11:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SuperJude wrote: Yeah, everybody seems to think that because she said she was smart, but I'm pretty certain at the reunion show Probst said that Roger had the highest IQ. More or less. He said Heidi ,Alex and Roger had the highest IQ's and that Heidi's was higher than "The Rocket Scientist" which implies that Roger had the highest. I think it's more a statement about testing standards than aptitude though. ETA: It's been a while and I was thinking that Alex was the rocket scientist guy which he wasn't. Still though, if Heidi had been the smartest, he probably would have said that instead of grouping the three. So she was probably #3 and who knows which of Alex or Rodger was #1. Last Edited By: blistering 11/04/09 11:15 PM. Edited 1 times.
River50		#1096	[-]
Posts: 168 (11/05/09 12:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	blistering wrote: SuperJude wrote: Yeah, everybody seems to think that because she said she was smart, but I'm pretty certain at the reunion show Probst said that Roger had the highest IQ. More or less. He said Heidi ,Alex and Roger had the highest IQ's and that Heidi's was higher than "The Rocket Scientist" which implies that Roger had the highest. I think it's more a statement about testing standards than aptitude though. ETA: It's been a while and I was thinking that Alex was the rocket scientist guy which he wasn't. Still though, if Heidi had been the smartest, he probably would have said that instead of grouping the three. So she was probably #3 and who knows which of Alex or Rodger was #1. intelligence tests are not a reliable indicator of real life aptitude. Last Edited By: River50 11/05/09 12:22 AM. Edited 1 times.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#1097	[-]
Posts: 9402 (11/05/09 12:24 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SuperJude wrote: I'm still curious as to what, exactly, Russell's magic strategy is. I get that he's voted off the females and that he couldn't protect his one ally, Ben. I get that he thinks Natalie is stupid and is key him reaching the finals. What I don't get is how he gets so much face time for a guy on a tribe that went from 10 players to 4 and couldn't pull itself up. He didn't seem to do anything to life his tribe's spirits. He thinks everybody is the dumbest person he's ever met and that they constantly do the dumbest things ever. One or two of these comments a season adds spice, now it's like...okay, we get it, everybody is stupid but Russell. 12 people left and we probably won't see any game from him for a couple rounds. If he makes F4 then maybe it's all worth it but so far it seems like editorial and their Smoke & Mirrors theory of editing. -SJ™ Hey GhostieProbst, how about you explain this?
Olmec Donald		#1098	[-]
Posts: 976 (11/05/09 7:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm so sick of this asshole eating up all the airtime. He's a moron for showing his idol to half the island. Sure, nobody else seems to have any game, but everyone starts to tire of that hick accent after a while. Erik, Dave and Natalie seem just as interesting, why can't the producers show them a bit more?
bullwinkle428		#1099	[-]
Posts: 645 (11/05/09 7:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ZOINKS!!! Time for Plan B, asshole!
Quiddity		#1100	[-]
Posts: 6634 (11/05/09 7:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So, Russell's plan is essentially to tell every single player in the game that he has a hidden immunity idol. Meaning it'll be worthless because they'll simply blindside him. What a great strategy.

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