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kishuu |
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Craig, I really need to get this off my chest. Some people just hate Monica because you overrate her and worship her like some g0ddess when she in fact was
kinda irrelevant to the season as a whole. Most of the Monica hate actually stems from your (and Oo's) liking of her. If you stopped massively defending
Monica in every single post and did less of what you're doing now, maybe people would like her more.
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craig |
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Natalie's mediocrity has nothing to do with Monica.
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kishuu |
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craig wrote:Then stop all those Monica > Natalie posts. It's really personal opinion. We get it, the whole world knows you like Parvati/Monica/etc. Not everyone loves them though and you're not helping by arguing with everyone who disagrees with you. |
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craig |
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I can understand liking Natalie > Monica if you're the type who prefers Danni and Amanda over girls with more personality. Or if you like nice, sweet,
religious southern blondes. Can't argue with taste.
But Suckls usually dumps on Amanda and downgrades Danni, so I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.
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chapera rocks |
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Your problem is you constantly compare people that have little to no similarities. Amanda/Danni/Natalie are all very different people. And if you're
arguing the coat tail riding, well, Monica rode Laura's coattails as part of her strategy of laying low until she had no choice but to get loud.
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craig |
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What makes Natalie so much better than Danni or Amanda?
I'm saying most of it is CONTEXT - Steph and Todd\Courtney and Parv\Cirie have lots of fans here, but Russell not so much. Casual viewers, on the other hand, prefer Russell to Todd and Parvati, so they like Amanda more.
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chapera rocks |
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Individual preference and a sweet/comical personality (in a season of duds), that's what makes Natalie better to most.
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kenc333 |
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I love Natalie, but she's way different than Amanda.
In both of her seasons, Amanda was always in a solid alliance and didn't have a problem with stepping up to make decisions (eg. getting rid of Sherea, James, Peih Gee, Denise, Tracy, Alexis, Cirie (and allegedly a few others) were Amanda's decisions.) Natalie went along with the order laid out by Russell, maybe with the exception of the Erik elimination. The only thing I'd see in common between the two girls is that they both counted on bitter juries to vote against who they were up against in the end, which worked for Natalie, but not for Amanda. Amanda, however, did also hope that her loyal game and relative integrity would earn her some respect. Amanda was also physically dominant towards the end game when the game narrowed down to mainly other women, so no one can say they carried Amanda anywhere. If anything, Todd and Parvati should thank Amanda for winning those final challenges, being loyal to a fault and giving a horrendous FTC performance. Oh, and Amanda had the 3rd most confessionals in both her seasons <3 Amanda gets hated on for being somewhat empty-headed and fake, and breaking down on day 39 in back-to-back seasons. She's pretty inoffensive, but I guess Natalie's more inoffensive, and she beat out Russell, who's less respected around here than Todd, Courtney or Parvati. |
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craig |
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Natalie is the Taylor Swift, rather than the Bey or Gaga or Survivor winners.
Where is Kayne when you need him? |
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chapera rocks |
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Natalie is Natalie.
She is not Taylor Swift. She should not be compared to musicians. She should not be compared to other survivors who she has no likeness to. Natalie is Natalie. That is all. |
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tomash |
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While I can't say I usually agree with them, Craigs random comparisons always bring the laffos <3
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craig |
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Individual preference and a sweet/comical personality (in a season of duds),In other words, CONTEXT. Some people hate comparisons because they put constraints on their freedom to be arbitrary and inconsistent.
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chapera rocks |
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craig wrote:In other words, so what? It made her personality shine that much more. People like her for her. And would have liked her in a better edited season as well. Randomly comparing her to other survivors is stupid, especially when the similarities are limited. Especially when it's a roundabout way to arbitrarily compliment Monica, Parvati, Jenna, or Eliza in a way that doesn't even make that much sense. |
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craig |
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Makes sesne that a big fan of Outback Amber would defend Natalie I guess.
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chapera rocks |
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Nope, I just don't see the need to make shallow comparisons that don't make much sense in order to compliment X survivor.
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craig |
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I'd love to have another hot female Survivor winner to feel happy about. I've done my best with Natalie, but can only stretch so far. In the sucky
Samao context, she'd top 4. But in many other contexts, she'd be the boring Barbie girl that Sucks likes to rag on. You know I got a point, you've
half agreed with me.
Really, Natalie's competition in the best winner debate is Vee, Amber, and Danni - she doesn't threaten any strategic masterminds. |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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kenc333 wrote: I was going to post pretty much this. ty Ken! If you're going to compare Natalie to anyone, craig, compare her to All-Stars Amber, because they're the ones that have real similarites. |
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