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Aunt Pappy |
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Why is no one concerned that DANIEL didn't have a British accent? Hmmmm???
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cindidindi76 |
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I was bitching about accents while I was watching last night, lol. It was annoying me.
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Aunt Pappy |
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Oh, wait...maybe I know why. Perhaps they didn't want us to deduce too early on that Daniel may be connected to Widmore or Hawkings.
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cindidindi76 |
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I would buy that, except he was at Oxford, so him having an accent wouldn't have too revealing.
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tigeranne |
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Aunt Pappy wrote: I guess it's because I'm too busy being concerned that he got shot and is most likely dead. *sigh* I'm taking this much harder than when Ben shot John. |
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Shutterbug78 |
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When Ben shot John or when he hanged him? You know, John has a lot to be bitter about towards ol' Ben.
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BillNyeSurvivorGuy |
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I think maybe Daniel wanted to be shot, I guess that sounds far fetched but I have such faith in the writers that I can't believe that this is the Shark
Jumping episode which ended the series respect forever and so on and so forth.
Two things he said in the episode were interesting. For one, Daniel asked for a "beginners" gun, as if he never shot a gun before. If he was planning on going in guns blazing someday you would think that he would practice off island, he had 3 years, sure there was science to do and stuff but I'm sure he could have hit the practice range between then if he was going to shoot people. So I don't think he really cared about the shooting anyone I think he wanted to just use the gun to become threatening to become a target to be killed. So that served his ends. Doesn't it seem weird by the way, Daniel didn't seem really too upset about being shot? That confirms that he wanted to die. Why would he want to be shot in that way? I think Daniel wanted to effect the future just enough that he would stop the crash of Flight 815 and the Hatches and all the rest from ever happening AND be killed so that he could make his mother believe she must make her son into a scientist in order to perhaps save his life someday! So yes, the nightmare final episode scenario where it all never really happened might really be the true ending of LOST...sigh. Of course, I don't know how things happened with Daniel and Eloise at that moment before but if my theory is correct, Daniel did change the future there ever so slightly, maybe 3% or whatnot, maybe by him making that sacrifice he sows the seeds of changing the future. By telling Jack and Kate that the hydrogen bomb on the island could be used to contain the energy on the island, he could set off a series of events that leads to Jack and Kate eventually finding the bomb, someone maybe Alpert detonating it, then the eventual changing of history, where there is no crash of flight 815. etc. The reason Daniel needs to die is to make sure his mother in the future makes him become a scientist to get to that point where he can save if not the world, at least everyone on that island. Why? Maybe so he can prevent Widmore from taking the island, if he were to take the island maybe it is a really, really, bad thing for the world. We just don't know how bad yet. Here is my current theory. Supposedly there is this final battle between good and evil right? I think the shows final struggle could have something to do with one side trying to explode the island with that bomb and changing history and the other side trying to make sure the events of time do not change and the island is saved. Widmore wants the island so he would want it to stay intact, but if there were a reason for destroying the island, say the end of the world then I bet you could get some people to save the world. :) Really the entire show is like, here are all these broken, lonely, immoral, sad, "lost" people in life who all somehow get swept to this island and find new lives living there, some die but most become whole people again with purpose and reason to live. And when they are rescued and return to their lives, they become just as broken and sad as they were before the island. Carlton and Cuse have always said that the point of this show is redemption. I could definately see a ending where they explode the island with a bomb, everyone dies but since they saved the world eventually they have redeemed themselves and ultimately are not lost anymore, they have found a good ending for their lives. Now this isn't the most fun ending and kinda cliche' at this point, but it would be better than the "they never met it was all a dream" ending. But, the side we don't consider will be the islands side and I bet you the ending of LOST won't be as clean cut as all of that, the island gets the final say. |
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cindidindi76 |
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Carlton and Cuse have always said that the point of this show is redemption. They have? Not that it really means anything to me, since they say whatever they feel like saying at the time whether it ends up being true or not. |
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TheEasyOne |
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Antithesys wrote:clearly it was for the shock value otherwise the episode wouldn't live up to the hype. urgh what's wrong is that 1. we don't know what farraday was doing in ann arbor 2. we don't know how the theresa incident happened 3. why is farraday's name farraday? charles as his father is pretty lame reveal 4. uncharecteristic of dan to wave the gun around like that 5. sawyer knows full well there's a peace treaty, but allows jack/kate/dan to take guns. if they hadn't taken the guns, they wouldn't have completely blown their cover and sawyer/juliet wouldn't have been caught 6. the comic con video with pierre chang/crying baby/farraday makes no sense now not to be overtly critical, but still... -_- |
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WiscBadger95 |
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Its A Flavin wrote:
"Whoa, dude. That's like totally spooky!" |
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BJ |
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cindidindi76 wrote: Christian was also rejuvenated. We'll see how much the island wants to keep Daniel around. |
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scepticA |
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When Ben said, "Dead is dead, even on the island," I just naturally assumed he was lying through his teeth. In fact, I thought it was designed as a
line that, when uttered, the fans would automatically think, "Whoa, Ben's lying again."
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phantomkp |
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scepticA wrote: Lol...did you see season 2 and 3?? That's ALL the losties did! Grab guns from the weapon stash and head out in the jungle to confront the hostiles/others! Totally in character from what I know. And Daniel? We don't know what happened to him those 3 years yet, do we? He obviously was a changed man getting off that sub from the Dan we used to know. He was determined, self righteous, and demanding. He was on a mission to change destiny and was on a short time schedule. After confronting The Others in 1954, knowing they all carry guns and have militaristic sensibilities...I TOTALLY buy him thinking he would have to use force to be listened to! I also totally buy he didn't feel concerned enough to hide his gun. That's why dharma started shooting...that's why his mother shot. Ok, you can totally dislike the way the characters behaved this episode cause you wouldn't behaved that way if you are them, that's fine. But I don't get the criticism of this episode about the writing. It's totally consistent with their characters and considering the circumstances.
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managerr |
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Anyone know if Jeremy Davies is gonna be on any talk shows? Usually when a major character is killed on LOST, they do press, but I haven't seen anything
for Jeremy yet...
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arcticjim68 |
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cindidindi76 wrote: Not only that, but since Carlton Cuse magically became 2 people there's no telling what kind of lies he could tell. Not that it matters but I found another production error. In Desmond's hospital room there was a ventilator next to him. I couldn't tell if he was hooked up to it or not, but the ventilator was an Infant Star. Those are only used on babies, primarily in NICU units. |
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cindidindi76 |
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Maybe they were just storing it there or something. Because his room was right by the NICU. Or something.
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pussycow |
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Posts: 5164 (04/30/09 5:46 PM) |
It was there because the prop guys put it there
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Rodo |
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I don't think he wanted to get shot. I think his mother knew it had to happen, and he realized that as he
died.
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FeliciaM7 |
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Stealing my lines? |
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pussycow |
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Posts: 5166 (04/30/09 6:21 PM) |
yuh huh
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