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unduli clone wrote:

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Okay, let's review:

S12: Exile Island, one HII hidden on the island. No knowledge over whether it would have been hidden again if taken out of play.

S13: Exile Island, one HII hidden on the island. No knowledge over whether it would have been hidden again if taken out of play.

S14: Exile Island, two HII's hidden at camp. HII hidden again when taken out of play.

S15: No Exile, two HII's hidden at camp. HII's not hidden again when taken out of play.

S16: Exile Island, one HII hidden on the island. HII hidden again when taken out of play.

S17: Exile Island, one HII hidden on the island. No knowledge over whether it would have been hidden again if taken out of play.

S18: Exile Island, two HII's hidden at camp. HII's not hidden again when taken out of play.


When the HII is on EI, it has been hidden again (as far as we know).
When it's hidden at camp, twice it's been hidden again, twice it hasn't been.

In Fiji it was hidden again even though another HII was still in play.

Everytime with an Exile Island and an idol in play, it's been rehidden. Probst said that the idols in CI and EI would have been rehidden. China is a different case becasue there was no Exile Island. This is first season where it wasn't rehidden.

Again, I'm ecstatic that there's one less HII to eat up air time, but Natalie and Alexis should not have been screwed over.

CSCin3D wrote:

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Again, I'm ecstatic that there's one less HII to eat up air time, but Natalie and Alexis should not have been screwed over.

WTF
THEY KNEW THE FUCKING RULES. THEY WERE NOT SCREWED OVER.

Oh yeah, knowing the rules makes it all ok. Especially when the producers change them whenever the hell they want.

First, Alexis played a poor hand, not Natalie. Second, Amanda recieved the most votes at the final 6, therefore she was voted out, right? Nope.

Feel free to continue ranting though

Thanks ken, will do. I'm listening to other people's opinions, but I don't have to agree with them. Everyone bought into the editing of how the fans were complete morons, and the favorites (minus Ozzy) were all heroic geniuses.

survivorisdabest wrote:

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Summary of all the points which TS still hasnt validly disputed:

1. Just like KC said, All 3 fans (Nat, alexis, erik) made ridiculously dumb decisions regarding exile island/HII's. Natalie should have never sent Jason to exile when she knew he was next (and then once he was loyal to her and offering to share an idol with her she should not have blindsided him but she didnt because she was parv's pawn, but that's a whole other story as to why Natalie was not robbed which CSC covered), Alexis sent Amanda to exile when she wanted Amanda to be the first favourite gone and Erik sent Parvati when he wanted Parvati gone. All 3 fans got completely outplayed by the favourites.

2. And don't say that Micro should have not replanted the idol because tocantins and china didnt do it.
Tocantins was TWO SEASONS LATER and you cant backtrack in time like that unless you are now claiming that every season should have tocantins rules.
Fiji had the idols rehidden and then the people in micronesia hadnt even SEEN the second half of china so they had no idea the idols werent replanted.
The rules change every season ANYWAY and all the fans KNEW the rules for the current HII and exile island when they were making their idiotic decisions.

Natalie did not make a dumb decision by sending Jason to Exile. She gained his trust by doing so. Taking him out might not have been the right decision, but she was still in a strong majority either way. James was set to be booted next by everyone (except for maybe Amanda, whose decisions were overriden by Parvati). This left 3 fans versus 3 favorites. It's a pretty valid assumption to think that a player of Cirie's caliber would not be willing to risk a purple rock, but if she did, then it's a 50% chance that the fans are in majority. (Actually a 60% chance when Erik won immunity.)

I agree that Alexis was a fucking moron for sending Amanda to Exile, and I will never defend her. Erik was the same way at the final 5. Natalie was screwed over by both of them, but again, it should have never been an issue when they did not rehide the idols in China. Now, you are saying because it was rehidden in Fiji. If it was rehidden in Fiji, then why the fuck weren't they rehidden this season? Exactly.

The fans were not outplayed by the favorites. They were outplayed by an idol.

3. Amanda wouldn't have been voted out at F6 if the idol didn't exist. Cirie would have forced a tie, she even said herself in the F5 episode "Amanda had me right at the point where i was ready to force a tie" but then amanda told cirie to vote for her.

Natalie's only chance of making it near the end was either an immunity run or stopping being parv's pawn and saving jason, and she did neither of those.

I'd like to see TS dispute any of those 3 points.

That's bullshit and never happened. Cirie said in post show interviews that she knew about the idol, not at the final 5. Cirie was much more of Parvati's pawn than Natalie was. She freaking said that she wouldn't have voted with Natalie to force a tie if they knew it was a final two. She was playing for Amanda and Parvati. With that said, Cirie probably would have forced the tie if there was no idol in play (although I do believe she would not risk her entire game on random luck), but why does that only mean a fan is leaving? Erik won immunity. That meant there was a much better chance at a favorite leaving rather than a fan. If a favorite leaves there, Natalie wins easily.

platinumtlc wrote:

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CIRIE is the winner of Micronesia. KThanks GOODBYE!