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suckshardcore |
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She had fucking laryngitis Elton John week Drew B.
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Drew B |
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8trackmind wrote: Tatiana was carrying more than 5 extra pounds on each arm! suckshardcore wrote: And Lil had laryngitis this week. I haven't seen you letting her off the hook for it... Seriously, though, laryngitis can't be blamed for the HORRIBLE, manic cheesefest of Diana racing through the audience that week. Her vocal issues were the LEAST of her problems in that horrible, horrible, performance. It was like if you took Josh Gracin's "Celebration" and "Bad Blood" and blended them together, you'd get Diana's "I'm Still Standing". Ick! |
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8trackmind |
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I'm glad DrewB brought up Elton John night, maybe the all-time greatest suckfest in Idol's history. Yeah, Diana's mediocre, high school talent
show-ish I'm Still Standing ("...sounding like a little kid") was her worst performance. SHE even thought so. But it pales in comparison to these
all-time classics:
George Huff, in HIS worst performance, pointlessly bouncing up and down to Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah in the unfathomable Take Me To The Pilot. Camile Velasco getting stuck in the wrong key in Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and sounding like a dying goat as she unsuccessfully tried to work her way back. Perhaps THE classic Idol trainwreck performance ever! John Stevens painfully braying an even worse Na Na Nah Nah Nah Nah chorus in Crocodile Rock, demonstrating for all time his complete inability to sing anything uptempo. Jon Peter Lewis flatly faking his way through the falsetto notes in Rocket Man, while being careful as usual to show no emotion and make no moves onstage that required any effort. Plus more run of the mill bad performances by Mantasia and Jasmine. Elton, to his credit, saw the horrors that awaited us and "couldn't fit the show into his busy schedule." Thank God for Jennifer Hudson (and Latoya, the only other singer who was any good that night). So I think Diana's oh so awful performance was, at worst, in the middle of the group that week. |
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Drew B |
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Maybe I just didn't expect anything from Camille/John/Jasmine/JPL, but I remember coming away from that show ANGRY at Diana for sucking so bad. I tend to
hate it worse when somebody with ability sucks than when somebody simply doesn't have ability.
For the record, though, I liked George that week. |
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suckshardcore |
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And Lil had laryngitis this week. I haven't seen you letting her off the hook for it...I haven't even watched the performances or commented on Lil's performance from this week. |
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sadllama |
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Diana's I'm Still Standing is wonderfully hilarious for "hey girl!" she gave to Amy Adams as she ran by her. As much as I liked Diana, her
constant "come on ya'll!'s" and the like got on my nerves.
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suckshardcore |
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She still sang better than Mantasia throughout the competition and got fucking screwed. She should have beat that ghetto screaming bitch.
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seaguy |
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And wasn't Diana in the bottom three that week? So it wasn't like she skated by and not end up in the bottom three after a shitty performance like
we've seen LOTS of contestants do over the years.
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sadllama |
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Diana had some really bad performances and ended up in the bottom 3 a few times because of it, but she also had some really great performances like Broken Wing
(which was was undeservedly in the bottom 3 for) and Don't Cry Out Loud which was the best performance from that season. It sucks that she got screwed over
from winning because the judges were too busy pimping up the warbling banshee that was Fantasia.
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suckshardcore |
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She was in the bottom 3 that week with Camile who went home and was easily worse than Diana that night and in general.
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8trackmind |
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And I was only taking about white women. Personally I don't see what the big difference is, but somewhat overweight latinas like Tatiana, Vanessa Oliverez
or Allison seem to be much more acceptable to Simon.
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Drew B |
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seaguy wrote: I'm saying (and it's fine if others feel differently) that that was the single worst performance given by anybody who ended up in the finale on this show. People are suggesting that she was screwed for not winning - I'm saying that she was DAYUM lucky to have made it to final 2 with a performance like that on her record. I don't see how anybody who saw her do that could ever cast a single vote for her again on that night or any other night. And I was only taking about white women. Personally I don't see what the big difference is, but somewhat overweight latinas like Tatiana, Vanessa Oliverez or Allison seem to be much more acceptable to Simon. Oops. I don't even think of Tatiana as Latina. Because of the name, I always think of her as slavic. |
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suckshardcore |
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Most people probably ignored that particular performance of Diana's when it came to the end because a)it was early in the season and long forgotten and
b)they said on the show she said a bad case of laryngitis so people probably gave her a pass.
Lil on the other hand who apparently had laryngitis this week doesn't deserve a pass because it's been weeks and she has yet to give a good performance. Diana wipes the floor with the likes of Lil and she did deserve to be F2. Also before you rant on about how she didn't deserve F2 consider her competition, Jasmine? John? JPL? The only one you could argue should have been F2 over her was La Toya who imo was boring as fuck. Diana's singing chops were up there with La Toya and she proved it on many occasions, especially toward the end with "Don't Cry Out Loud," "Enough is Enough" and "No More #%%!+." Bad performance or not I don't see it as unforgivable, especially considering she was sick and she did end up in the bottom 3 for it, the other 2 in the bottom being Camile who sucked even worse on "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and Jasmine Trias. |
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sadllama |
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I'm saying (and it's fine if others feel differently) that that was the single worst performance given by anybody who ended up in the finale on this show. People are suggesting that she was screwed for not winning - I'm saying that she was DAYUM lucky to have made it to final 2 with a performance like that on her record. I don't see how anybody who saw her do that could ever cast a single vote for her again on that night or any other night. So judging by your standards anyone who gives one bad performance should never be given a chance at winning and should have their entire career suffer because of it? She wasn't great that night, buts it was hardly the "zomg worst performance ever!" that you're making it out to be. |
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Drew B |
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suckshardcore wrote: In my perfect world, F2 would have been Jennifer Hudson and George Huff. Neither of THEM ever had a performance as godawful as "I'm Still Standing". I also don't hate Fantasia (as unpopular as it is to admit that around here). Fantasia was at least GENUINE, unlike pageant-bot Diana... big.red.ecks on LaToya, though. |
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Drew B |
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sadllama wrote: It depends HOW bad. Yeah, contestant can give a mediocre performance or a meh performance and come back from it. That's not what we're talking about, here. I coined the term "unforgivably" bad for it on the last page. It was bad enough that, yes, I think that after that she should have had no chance at winning... She wasn't great that night, buts it was hardly the "zomg worst performance ever!" that you're making it out to be. Well, my one contention is that it was worse than any performance ever given by any other idol who finished top 2. Can you point out an example that you think disproves that? IMO, it was worse than anything Kelly, Ruben, Clay, Fantasia, Bo, Carrie, Jordin, Blake, Porkchop, or Cookie ever did. Justin's "PYT" may have been as bad, but I don't think so. I hated most of what Taylor and Katherine did throughout much of season 5, but even though I think they were both overall worse than Diana, I don't think either of them had a single performance as atrocious as "I'm Still Standing". |
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8trackmind wrote: What show were you watching? Jasmine was by far the best performer of that night. |
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8trackmind |
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Jasmine was better than Latoya's very good "Someone saved my life tonight?" No. Better than Jennifer's magnificent "Circle of
Life?" Absolutely not. I like Jasmine better than a lot of Sucksters do, but anybody thinking she was the best that night needs to rewatch their tape or
youtube clips again!
So (forgetting for now about Mantasia's own very long list of DIS-credits), what WAS the worst performance ever by somebody making the final two? It's a good question, and I'll go through my own personal list of worsts (admittedly, I am forgetting a few). Diana we already discussed to death. I thought Kelly, Ruben, and Bo were NEVER bad, so I'll forget about including them. Justin's PYT was bad, but it wasn't awful. I thought Clay's Grease, famously hated by Simon, was also just run of the mill bad. Carrie's Piece of my Heart, while her only bad performance, wasn't awful. Ditto with Taylor's worst, "Take me home, country roads." I thought Jordin gave 3 bad performances: semis week 2 when she was almost voted off, the No Doubt song, and one other I can't remember at all now. None were truly horrible, though. Blake and Archie, neither of whom I cared for, had a TON of bad ones. Blake I've mostly tried to blot out of my mind (I only liked him occasionally) but Archie's worst has to be either We Can Work It Out on top 12 night (he forgot the lyrics) or the hideous newer song he butchered in the middle part of top 3 night. Cook had a bad streak in the middle of the season; the one he did on top 8 night by holding out his hand (which had something scribbled on it) stands out as the worst to me. I've left out one contestant, because I think she, and not Diana, had the worst performance by anybody in the finale that I liked at all (i.e. excluding Mantasia and Blake). It's Katherine McPhee's tuneless screech of a Christina Aguilara song (title mercifully forgotten) which rightly put her into the bottom 2 on season 5's disasterous top 10 night. She was wearing a silly combination lesbian/equestrian outfit, if that helps jog anybody's memory. I loved Katherine a lot of the time, but that night she was truly awful. |
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Riff |
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DiBot was a bratty little twat. Remember her SQUEE! dance every time she got let off the hook from the Bottom 3? Yeah, who gives a shit about your two friends
in the Bottom 2, right? For ZOMG16!!!!11!, that girl was fucking immature. She would have benefited from a Senor Archuleta stage dad to beat some manners into
her.
She had a technically good voice (for the most part), but never connected emotionally with anything -- and so never made me feel a damn thing. Half the time, she didn't even seem to know what the song she was singing was about. |
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suckshardcore |
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DiBot was a bratty little twat. Remember her SQUEE! dance every time she got let off the hook from the Bottom 3? Yeah, who gives a shit about your two friends in the Bottom 2, right? For ZOMG16!!!!11!, that girl was fucking immature. She would have benefited from a Senor Archuleta stage dad to beat some manners into her.She couldn't possibly be a bigger twat than Jasmine on F4 elimination night. Even Diana kept giving that bitch death glares on camera. |
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