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Posts: 15802 (04/21/09 5:04 PM) AI Forum Moderator |
suckshardcore wrote: You like Allison and Kris NOW. But not early. But it doesn't matter cause I got mad love for SHC. <3 aspects, I agree. I just don't think anything would have changed the outcome of that wild card night. |
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Posts: 19302 (04/21/09 5:07 PM) Registered user |
You're a little pitchy for me dawg, but I'm a big fan, you know that right man? Maybe with the right contestants next year, it could be a hot one,
alright, yo?
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5197 (04/28/09 10:41 PM) Registered User |
Danny.Gokey
Has any other contestant on this show ever lasted 8 weeks in the finals without ever having been given the "pimp spot"? |
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seaguy |
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Posts: 15934 (04/28/09 10:47 PM) AI Forum Moderator |
Yes, Danny Gokey has been screwed over week after week by those terrible reviews from the judges.
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taks |
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Posts: 139 (04/28/09 10:49 PM) |
The producers are also clearly out to get him. They did everything in their power to make him look like a douchebag in the audition rounds by showing him
relentlessly!
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5198 (04/28/09 11:07 PM) Registered User |
seaguy wrote: Judges reviews are a double-edged sword. Sometimes a bad review is the best thing that can happen for a contestant. The worst is a middling review with a negative slant from Simon, and Gokey's gotten a few of those. Adam is clearly TCO, and his record on singing order is pretty clear proof of that. |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5199 (04/28/09 11:10 PM) Registered User |
taks wrote: Yeah? Tell that to Nathaniel and Norman... Danny's visibility in the early rounds made most of the people here hate him. And barely-seen people like Kris and Allison have lasted way longer than many who were shown much, much more... Not that they didn't deserve to, but the effect of early [over]exposure is clearly not a simple thing... |
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Posts: 843 (04/28/09 11:28 PM) Registered user |
Lisa Leuschner and Syesha
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taks |
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Posts: 140 (04/28/09 11:35 PM) |
Drew B wrote: Really? We're not talking about Nathaniel/Norman/Tatiana. We're talking about Danny. He was a frontrunner before the voting rounds started (per general consensus), which is clearly an advantage. ELEVEN of the top 13 were given a "pimp package" during the audition rounds (prolonged interviews + audition shown). We're talking about judge/producer intentions. If you honestly think the exposure of Danny was due to malicious intent from the producers... then, well... I don't know. ETA: By the way, if the producers are out to get Danny (due to performance order), then they must really hate Kris (which I don't think they do). Danny got the pimp spot in the semifinals (which is just as important and arguably more important because the goal is to be in the top 3 and not just to stay out of dead last) and Kris got a pimp spot at the Top 9 (8?). Averaging performance position, Kris has gone at 44% (with 100% being last every time) and Danny at 53%. Oh, and add Allison to that list (apparently) as she has also had one pimp spot (top 10?) and performed on average, right in the middle (50%).
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5200 (04/29/09 12:02 AM) Registered User |
taks wrote: No. I don't. I think they saw how much people talked about the pimping of Danny and have now overcompensated in the other direction. Kris and Allison have both spent more than their fair of the time in the first half of the voting order, granted, but they've both been given the pimp spot once in the finals. It's once more than Danny has gotten. Can you do your percentage thing for Adam? What is he? Around 87% |
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taks |
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Posts: 141 (04/29/09 12:06 AM) |
I ran Adam's numbers because I thought it'd be ridiculous.
Including the semifinal rounds he's at 79.2% (LOL). I'll get around to doing Giraud's eventually, and they're pretty high. But Adam's performance-order pimping is absolutely insane. ETA: The following numbers include semifinal voting (no wildcard) performances up until the elimination. Numbers in parentheses exclude semifinals: JORGE - 80.4% (69.2) ADAM - 79.2% (76.7) MATT - 64.0% (69.9) ALEXIS - 62.9% (81.8) DANNY - 58.4% (53.2) MEGAN - 57.7% (57.5) LIL - 55.5% (49.1) ANOOP - 54.1% (54.6) ALLISON - 49.4% (50.3) SCOTT - 48.8% (43.6) KRIS - 44.7% (44.1) MICHAEL - 41.6% (33.3) JASMINE - 23.1% (38.5)
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Posts: 1233 (04/29/09 12:27 AM) |
I think performance order at this point is moot.
From another board Including semifinals (but not WC since that only applies to Matt), I think the pimp spot is between Allison and Danny next week. Danny because he still hasn't gotten it (I would have liked to see him go last tonight and first next week for the potential shock boot during rock week, but whatevs clearly the producers have other plans), and Allison because I think Simon wants her around until the Top 3 (he basically said the same thing to her as he did to Syesha during last year's Top 5, when she was clearly the best). Adam will go first, and Kris will go third. Those are the two I'd bet on for next week.
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Posts: 886 (04/29/09 6:32 AM) |
The biggest screw goes to Vanessa Olivarez for sure!!! Remember the commentary they made her say!!!! She got kicked off first because people took it the wrong
way!
2nd is Vonzell. Why didn't they praise her more? She was incredible and a great performer |
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Miss Alley Shack |
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Posts: 3052 (04/29/09 9:36 AM) |
Vonzell lasted all the way to 3rd place despite croaking off-key through most of her performances. Why she kept singing power ballads when her voice lacked the
volume and power, I'd never know. Screwed? Only by Jesse Metcalfe.
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Velveeta Revolver |
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Posts: 2314 (04/29/09 12:16 PM) Registered User |
I'm fairly certain Bucky had at least a chafed turdcutter after his stint on the show. Granted he wasn't ZOMG!1AMAZZZZZING1!ONE! on the show or
anything nor was he going to win, but he was a better singer than Ace Barbarino and Hickler and he was certainly better than the stooges ever saw fit to give
him credit for much of the time.
They tried to fuck him Stevie Wonder week by denying him permission to sing Superstition and then giving it to someone else before he bitched and got it back. |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5204 (04/29/09 3:19 PM) Registered User |
If Danny's around next week, they probably will finally give him the pimp spot, but F4 is where it stops mattering historically, right? I know this season
is unusual with Anoop going home after his pimp-spot performance (all because of the judges' save), but before this season, anybody in the pimp spot prior
to top 4 has ALWAYS been 100% safe.
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Posts: 142 (04/29/09 3:26 PM) |
I wouldn't say it stops mattering. Anthony Federov is the only one to have gone home at F4 with the pimp spot, Melinda Doolittle the only at F3 and
Archuleta/Aiken at F2.
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5205 (04/29/09 3:57 PM) Registered User |
You are an encyclopedia. Thank you.
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taks |
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Posts: 143 (04/29/09 4:04 PM) |
Drew B wrote: Flattered, but the real encyclopedia is Screerider's boot position thread. I just do the digging (that and I will do anything to put off doing productive work). |
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Posts: 2761 (04/29/09 6:31 PM) Registered user |
Danny.Gokey Only saying Adam would be more ludicrous. |
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