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Posts: 49 (04/07/09 10:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Does anyone put any stock into what Jeff Probst said regarding Survivor: Tocantins making him push for a second all-stars due to some of the great characters this season or is was it just pre-season hype? And IF he's serious, and they ARE considering All Stars 2, what would the criteria be for eligible contestants? Could ANYONE from Seasons 1-18/19 be eligible, including original All-Stars? Would only contestants who appeared on Seasons post-AllStars be eligible (Seasons 8-18/19)? What about the "Favorites" from Micronesia? Would they get a call for All-Stars? They competed against fans, but this would be the best vs. the best And would that mean Bobby Jon and Stephanie would also be considered? My thoughts.... EVERY original All-Star should NOT be considered for All-Stars: 2 ANY contestant who did not appear on the original All-Stars SHOULD be considered (Seasons 1-18/19) If a contestant has appeared on a season twice (BobbyJon, Stephanie and the "Favs") they also could be brought back for All-Stars 2, but with a great deal of scrutiny, and second thought as to their worthiness. I would include Stephanie. Was a major player in BOTH her seasons. Made it to the F2. Of the "Favorites," I would only consider 3 players: Ozzy (love him or hate him, he is what a Survivor All-Star should be, especially physically) Cirie (one of THEE best social players to ever play the game, TWICE made the Top 4) Jonathan (one of the best Survivor characters to play the game. Plays hard, and plays to win) Other possible contestants:::: Survivor Borneo: Kelly (F2, decent social game, great female competitor) Survivor: Australia: Mike (Leader of tribe, victim to the injury) Survivor: Africa --- Survivor: Marquesas Sean (GREAT charater, decent player) Survivor: Thailand --- Survivor: Amazon --- Survivor: Pearl Islands Sandra (Outspoken winner of the season) Survivor: Vanautu Twila (Deserved the win imo, great competitor and plays to win) Survivor: Palau Tom or Ian (Alpha male, Type A player) Survivor: Guatemala Rafe (So close to winning... "nice guy") Danni (Winner of her season, nice on the eyes i guess, but somewhat boring) Stephanie (A survivor "legend" lol) Survivor: Exile Island Shane (GREAT character) Terry (Physical powerhouse) Survivor: Cook Islands Yul (VERY GOOD player, winner of his season) Ozzy (see above) Jonathan (see above) Survivor: Fiji --- Survivor: China Todd (Winner of his season, controlled game from very early on, decent character) Pei-Gee (Another good character who fought all the way to the end) Survivor: Fans vs Favs Cirie (see above) Erik (made the "Dumbest" survivor move ever, looking for redemption, stong competitor, and if Amber can make the original.... why NOT Erik?) Survivor: Gabon Kenny (Also a player who PLAY the game) Crystal (Good player, not afraid to make moves and play the game) Randy (GREAT Survivor character) Sugar (Underrated Survivor player, made it to the Finals) Still too early to say exactly on Tocantins, but early favorites would be Brendan, Taj, Stephen, Coach.... and possibly JT
Mypoody2		#1	[-]
Posts: 9099 (04/08/09 1:17 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think itll happen in 20, location spoiler: Spoiler [+] especially with a cook islands return this fall being heavily speculated That's a very good list and I think what you said is true. I think the 2 favorites that should be considered are James and Jonathan mainly because of their injuries. I also think that Yau-man is a likely decision because he was voted off early and, let's face it he was the favorite favorite. I think from Gabon they will select Sugar, Corinne, and Randy for sure, simply because they all hate eachother. The other choice is a toss up between Kenny/Crystal. I personally would love Crystal over Kenny, but knowing Survivor theyll have met their black quota with Taj if she makes it deep enough into Tocantins (even if she doesnt, I think she's already ASS worthy). I'd also like to see a female Africa player, regardless of if it's Kim P, Kelly, Teresa or Kim J.
bryanpasa		#2	[-]
Posts: 636 (04/08/09 3:35 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I love that list! Sugar <3333333333333 Even if I hate Coach, I love to see him in All-stars and I would love to see him being an antagonist
Redmond		#3	[-]
Posts: 210 (04/08/09 5:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Surely it is too early for another season of returning castaways? Fans vs Faves was only two seasons ago. With Survivor still getting ratings of 13mil and winning its timeslot consistently, I don't think it is in any danger of leaving our screens, so I'd say they could definitely reach Season 24, which would be the next All-Stars. If the series does start to flag by that time, then I think Season 22 could be All-Stars, but nothing less than that.
fsmdud		#4	[-]
Posts: 1825 (04/08/09 7:16 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Amber Zoe Clay Butch Trish Scout Coby Aras Jenny Yul Edgardo Cassandra Sherea Chet Alexis Susie Coach Joe
survivor300		#5	[-]
Posts: 3047 (04/08/09 7:23 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It can also be back 2 back Samoa.
tullfan2		#6	[-]
Posts: 3282 (04/08/09 7:30 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney constructed a poll for a second All Stars in the All Stars Dream Cast thread and so far has posted the results for the men in that thread. Contestants that are eligible are those from Vanuatu thru Tocantins that made the merger, that have only played once and that did not win (except for Tocantins). These results could produce a pretty good cast. Randy, Shane, Judd and Coach all placed in the top 10. I can't imagine how a season could play out with those 4 in the cast.
Emcee Batley		#7	[-]
Posts: 314 (04/08/09 10:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Redmond wrote: Surely it is too early for another season of returning castaways? Fans vs Faves was only two seasons ago. With Survivor still getting ratings of 13mil and winning its timeslot consistently, I don't think it is in any danger of leaving our screens, so I'd say they could definitely reach Season 24, which would be the next All-Stars. If the series does start to flag by that time, then I think Season 22 could be All-Stars, but nothing less than that. You are a total fool. Good ratings doesn't necessarily mean that they will keep it on the air. At the end of the day, Survivor is only contracted for two seasons a year and it's ultimately up to Mark Burnete to decide when it comes or goes off the air. 10 years is a lot for any show and the fact the ratings are good but have been down 7 million for five of those ten years, as well as the fact the show's going pretty good in recent seasons is a good reason to end the show. Why not go out on top rather than begging for viewers? Seinfeld, Friends, The Sopranos, they got decent ratings and called it quits early before the show declined in quality. Season 20 is probably going to be All-Stars, and all that talk about cancellation aside, look at Guatemala. All-Stars was season eight and before you knew it, three seasons later, they were bringing back past contestants again! And then we had Fans vs. Favorites five seasons later. I expect a well rounded cast of contestants ranging from Borneo to the latest season coming up.
Canadian Model		#8	[-]
Posts: 5 (04/08/09 10:23 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heidik?
Redmond		#9	[-]
Posts: 213 (04/08/09 11:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Emcee Batley wrote: Redmond wrote: Surely it is too early for another season of returning castaways? Fans vs Faves was only two seasons ago. With Survivor still getting ratings of 13mil and winning its timeslot consistently, I don't think it is in any danger of leaving our screens, so I'd say they could definitely reach Season 24, which would be the next All-Stars. If the series does start to flag by that time, then I think Season 22 could be All-Stars, but nothing less than that. You are a total fool. Good ratings doesn't necessarily mean that they will keep it on the air. At the end of the day, Survivor is only contracted for two seasons a year and it's ultimately up to Mark Burnete to decide when it comes or goes off the air. 10 years is a lot for any show and the fact the ratings are good but have been down 7 million for five of those ten years, as well as the fact the show's going pretty good in recent seasons is a good reason to end the show. Why not go out on top rather than begging for viewers? Seinfeld, Friends, The Sopranos, they got decent ratings and called it quits early before the show declined in quality. Season 20 is probably going to be All-Stars, and all that talk about cancellation aside, look at Guatemala. All-Stars was season eight and before you knew it, three seasons later, they were bringing back past contestants again! And then we had Fans vs. Favorites five seasons later. I expect a well rounded cast of contestants ranging from Borneo to the latest season coming up. Burnett very well may call it quits at 20, I just personally don't see it. It rakes in cash for not only CBS, but helps tourism for the locations it visits, it is finally starting to get recognition over the fact it has great ratings for a show on its 18th season and it doesn't seem to be losing any major momentum. As you say, those could also be good reasons to go out on top, but I think they'll at least commission two more seasons after 20. Guatemala brought back two popular castaways from the previous season, its hardly the same as a full on 'All Star' season or even a 'Fans vs Faves' type affair. They did All-Stars at 8 and Fans vs Faves at 16, it would make sense that they'd wait another seven seasons before the next one. You may be right, I'm not denying it outright, but I personally feel 20 will just be an ordinary season. Last Edited By: Redmond 04/08/09 11:58 AM. Edited 2 times.
tullfan2		#10	[-]
Posts: 3289 (04/08/09 3:48 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One of the reasons that Burnett may stick with Survivor past 20 seasons is that most of the other shows that he has introduced have been flops (anyone for Pirate Master or On The Lot or The Restaurant?). If some of his other shows had been bona fide hits, there would have been a greater chance that he would have ended Survivor after 20 or even 16 seasons. Usually when a scripted show goes out 'on top' it is because most of the cast has had enough and/or the producers and writers are running out of ideas. It is different with reality shows such as Survivor. Each season has a new cast and a new location, After 17 seasons (not counting All Stars), we are still introduced to novel characters like Coach and there are plenty of diverse locations that haven't been used yet.
Emcee Batley		#11	[-]
Posts: 317 (04/08/09 4:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Redmond wrote: Emcee Batley wrote: Redmond wrote: Surely it is too early for another season of returning castaways? Fans vs Faves was only two seasons ago. With Survivor still getting ratings of 13mil and winning its timeslot consistently, I don't think it is in any danger of leaving our screens, so I'd say they could definitely reach Season 24, which would be the next All-Stars. If the series does start to flag by that time, then I think Season 22 could be All-Stars, but nothing less than that. You are a total fool. Good ratings doesn't necessarily mean that they will keep it on the air. At the end of the day, Survivor is only contracted for two seasons a year and it's ultimately up to Mark Burnete to decide when it comes or goes off the air. 10 years is a lot for any show and the fact the ratings are good but have been down 7 million for five of those ten years, as well as the fact the show's going pretty good in recent seasons is a good reason to end the show. Why not go out on top rather than begging for viewers? Seinfeld, Friends, The Sopranos, they got decent ratings and called it quits early before the show declined in quality. Season 20 is probably going to be All-Stars, and all that talk about cancellation aside, look at Guatemala. All-Stars was season eight and before you knew it, three seasons later, they were bringing back past contestants again! And then we had Fans vs. Favorites five seasons later. I expect a well rounded cast of contestants ranging from Borneo to the latest season coming up. Burnett very well may call it quits at 20, I just personally don't see it. It rakes in cash for not only CBS, but helps tourism for the locations it visits, it is finally starting to get recognition over the fact it has great ratings for a show on its 18th season and it doesn't seem to be losing any major momentum. As you say, those could also be good reasons to go out on top, but I think they'll at least commission two more seasons after 20. Guatemala brought back two popular castaways from the previous season, its hardly the same as a full on 'All Star' season or even a 'Fans vs Faves' type affair. They did All-Stars at 8 and Fans vs Faves at 16, it would make sense that they'd wait another seven seasons before the next one. You may be right, I'm not denying it outright, but I personally feel 20 will just be an ordinary season. Well unless they have a theme like Exile Island, I don't see any other reason why they would go back to the exact same beach.
EPR2012		#12	[-]
Posts: 50 (04/08/09 11:15 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Im hoping that if it is another All-Star season it wont be 3 tribes, it will be only 2 tribes. And ONE tribal swap. I HATE double eliminations in Survivor, but it's hard not having them with 20 or so contestants. Adding an extra 3 days, and making it a 42 day adventure sounds fun. Possible merge at 12 and reshuffle into two tribes at 10 for the next 2 boots would be kind of wild.
Thailandsurvivor		#13	[-]
Posts: 6036 (04/08/09 11:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is a joke, right?
Antithesys		#14	[-]
Posts: 24188 (04/09/09 1:12 AM) Gadabout Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thread translation: I want to post my All-Star picks but am too lazy to add them to one of the thousands (think I'm exaggerating? count them) of existing "here's my All-Star picks" threads.
zeneth18		#15	[-]
Posts: 1246 (04/09/09 1:20 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Antithesys wrote: Thread translation: I want to post my All-Star picks but am too lazy to add them to one of the thousands (think I'm exaggerating? count them) of existing "here's my All-Star picks" threads.
Redmond		#16	[-]
Posts: 214 (04/09/09 4:45 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Emcee Batley wrote: Redmond wrote: Emcee Batley wrote: Redmond wrote: Surely it is too early for another season of returning castaways? Fans vs Faves was only two seasons ago. With Survivor still getting ratings of 13mil and winning its timeslot consistently, I don't think it is in any danger of leaving our screens, so I'd say they could definitely reach Season 24, which would be the next All-Stars. If the series does start to flag by that time, then I think Season 22 could be All-Stars, but nothing less than that. You are a total fool. Good ratings doesn't necessarily mean that they will keep it on the air. At the end of the day, Survivor is only contracted for two seasons a year and it's ultimately up to Mark Burnete to decide when it comes or goes off the air. 10 years is a lot for any show and the fact the ratings are good but have been down 7 million for five of those ten years, as well as the fact the show's going pretty good in recent seasons is a good reason to end the show. Why not go out on top rather than begging for viewers? Seinfeld, Friends, The Sopranos, they got decent ratings and called it quits early before the show declined in quality. Season 20 is probably going to be All-Stars, and all that talk about cancellation aside, look at Guatemala. All-Stars was season eight and before you knew it, three seasons later, they were bringing back past contestants again! And then we had Fans vs. Favorites five seasons later. I expect a well rounded cast of contestants ranging from Borneo to the latest season coming up. Burnett very well may call it quits at 20, I just personally don't see it. It rakes in cash for not only CBS, but helps tourism for the locations it visits, it is finally starting to get recognition over the fact it has great ratings for a show on its 18th season and it doesn't seem to be losing any major momentum. As you say, those could also be good reasons to go out on top, but I think they'll at least commission two more seasons after 20. Guatemala brought back two popular castaways from the previous season, its hardly the same as a full on 'All Star' season or even a 'Fans vs Faves' type affair. They did All-Stars at 8 and Fans vs Faves at 16, it would make sense that they'd wait another seven seasons before the next one. You may be right, I'm not denying it outright, but I personally feel 20 will just be an ordinary season. Well unless they have a theme like Exile Island, I don't see any other reason why they would go back to the exact same beach. It's not confirmed that it is going back to Cook Islands for Season 20, no where near confirmed. The rumour that was posted, sounds like the poster has confused Survivor with the British show 'Shipwrecked', who film in Cook Islands every year around October time.
spyzsrvvrcharmd		#17	[-]
Posts: 1311 (04/09/09 5:35 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The final season must be an ultimate All-Star. Bring back players from Borneo up to the latest.
EPR2012		#18	[-]
Posts: 51 (04/09/09 11:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Antithesys wrote:* Thread translation: I want to post my All-Star picks but am too lazy to add them to one of the thousands (think I'm exaggerating? count them) of existing "here's my All-Star picks" threads. Not quite. It's easy just to post who YOU would want on All-Stars, but I wanted more of a discussion on the format and elibility of contestants. More of a Burnett/producers/Probst view.... what they may be looking for in a second All-Stars and/or ways to spruce it up. I just added who i thought would be good selections based on the criteria i would use for All Stars: 2... coachbag
platinumtlc		#19	[-]
Posts: 8882 (04/10/09 7:59 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	See: Season 20.
Spanky Hot Dog		#20	[-]
Posts: 2684 (04/10/09 8:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tullfan2 wrote: Katy Carney constructed a poll for a second All Stars in the All Stars Dream Cast thread and so far has posted the results for the men in that thread. Contestants that are eligible are those from Vanuatu thru Tocantins that made the merger, that have only played once and that did not win (except for Tocantins). These results could produce a pretty good cast. Randy, Shane, Judd and Coach all placed in the top 10. I can't imagine how a season could play out with those 4 in the cast. Those are the 4 I would love to see play again the most. I hope it happens.

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