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Kenscookie		#541	[-]
Posts: 5592 (06/18/09 10:15 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	No, sorry. I didn't know anything about breakdancers and/or hip hop back then and I don't know anything about them now. Just never been my bag, baby.
3hairsandyouremine		#542	[-]
Posts: 618 (06/18/09 11:44 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GrenadeJumper85 wrote: You people clearly didn't watch America's Best Dance Crew this season. The Beat Freaks were B-Girls (and absolutely awesome, btw). B-Boys and B-Girls still exist in the dance world. I hate dance competition shows, but I do believe they exist in the dance world. I just don't think they are roaming the halls of American high schools en masse.
CAPSattack		#543	[-]
Posts: 2762 (06/18/09 1:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	3hairsandyouremine wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: You people clearly didn't watch America's Best Dance Crew this season. The Beat Freaks were B-Girls (and absolutely awesome, btw). B-Boys and B-Girls still exist in the dance world. I hate dance competition shows, but I do believe they exist in the dance world. I just don't think they are roaming the halls of American high schools en masse. oh but they are to some extent.
sugarrhill		#544	[-]
Posts: 4052 (06/18/09 1:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carboys Desire wrote: I don't really care if whoever designs MY clothes doesn't know what a B-Girl (or a B-Boy if there is such a thing) is...in fact I prefer it. I don't buy that all up and coming designers have to know about every trend past or present. Fuck that. Trust me, no one is trying to design clothes for your tacky Las Vegas ass. They wouldn't make any money. I'll refer you to Meryl Streep's brilliant monologue from The Devil Wears Prada to illuminate you as to why you'll never be a trend setter but still unconsciously follow the trends dictated by those you ridicule for daring to have a broader palate, spot and adapt trends in culture that you think is beneath your taste level: "This... 'stuff'? Oh... ok. I see, you think this has nothing to do with you. You go to your closet and you select out, oh I don't know, that lumpy blue sweater, for instance, because you're trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about what you put on your back. But what you don't know is that that sweater is not just blue, it's not turquoise, it's not lapis, it's actually cerulean. You're also blindly unaware of the fact that in 2002, Oscar De La Renta did a collection of cerulean gowns. And then I think it was Yves St Laurent, wasn't it, who showed cerulean military jackets? And then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of 8 different designers. Then it filtered down through the department stores and then trickled on down into some tragic casual corner where you, no doubt, fished it out of some clearance bin. However, that blue represents millions of dollars and countless jobs and so it's sort of comical how you think that you've made a choice that exempts you from the fashion industry when, in fact, you're wearing the sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room. From a pile of stuff." And let's not pretend that even half those cliques really exist and if they do they certainly don't dress uniformly in the same style across the nation.
Carboys Desire		#545	[-]
Posts: 6761 (06/18/09 1:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh yeah...well nobody likes you. So there.
Kenscookie		#546	[-]
Posts: 5596 (06/18/09 1:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sugarrhill wrote: And let's not pretend that even half those cliques really exist and if they do they certainly don't dress uniformly in the same style across the nation. Ok, so following this train of thought...how can a challenge like this even be judged fairly, what right does anyone have to be offended if a designer misses the mark and how is said designer even supposed to know what mark she's supposed to hit?
3hairsandyouremine		#547	[-]
Posts: 623 (06/18/09 1:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carboys Desire wrote: Oh yeah...well nobody likes you. So there. QFT x 1,000,000,000
micknrc		#548	[-]
Posts: 469 (06/18/09 1:56 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry, I love Reco. He brings truth and tough love and the DROMMAH! does hand gesture and look to sky like a drama nerd And all y'all putting the "flipout" on him are not remembering the scene the way I do. Jonny pisses and moans "I've already got a backer--I don't need this show--I'll be happy to go---waah waahh wahh." Then Reco makes a remark (one remark!), something to the effect of "People be playing up in here--my career." [inference--> Which I take very seriously.] He was talking to and about Jonny. He then gets up and meanders off-camera for a minute. The Harpies look over at Jonny and Jonny completely MAKES SHIT UP and says " He's pissed b/c he doesn't think you should've been in the top." Reco returns and the Harpies start jumping down his throat, having gotten the wrong impression from Jonny le Douche about what Reco said. Reco then shuts them down--as well he should. End of.
micknrc		#549	[-]
Posts: 470 (06/18/09 1:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I love you CD and I love Sugar. I hate it when mommy and daddy fight. Now Drew otoh....longwinded, know-it-all, "My opinion is the only one that counts and I will keep repeating it ad nauseum until I make everyone else want to stick a fork in their eye..." Yeah, some days him I could live without.
OldFartToo		#550	[-]
Posts: 688 (06/18/09 2:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	On another note Spoiler [+] Becky Newton is on the show tonight.
sugarrhill		#551	[-]
Posts: 4054 (06/18/09 2:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenscookie wrote: sugarrhill wrote: And let's not pretend that even half those cliques really exist and if they do they certainly don't dress uniformly in the same style across the nation. Ok, so following this train of thought...how can a challenge like this even be judged fairly, what right does anyone have to be offended if a designer misses the mark and how is said designer even supposed to know what mark she's supposed to hit? Well knowing that Hip Hop Culture is all about loose clothing to enable dancing is akin to knowing Goth is all about black. You work form a basic set of known/established principles and extrapolate. Angel got a FAIL from the get go with her skin tight look. It's not a ridiculous or an unreasonable idea that these designers know the business their getting into requires keeping up on trends (i.e. staying current) and picking up/identifying street culture that influences these trends. If you want to design for Middle America- go right ahead, but let's not pretend that high fashion doesn't require a different skill set.
cindidindi76		#552	[-]
Posts: 18580 (06/18/09 2:17 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I have a confession.... I have no idea what the hell QFT means.
Jassyca		#553	[-]
Posts: 346 (06/18/09 2:17 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenscookie wrote: sugarrhill wrote: And let's not pretend that even half those cliques really exist and if they do they certainly don't dress uniformly in the same style across the nation. Ok, so following this train of thought...how can a challenge like this even be judged fairly, what right does anyone have to be offended if a designer misses the mark and how is said designer even supposed to know what mark she's supposed to hit? Ding-ding-ding-ding! We have a winnah!! I totally agree. At my high school (which, I grant you, was decades ago) had several cliques (jocks, 'dexters' (our name for geeks), burn-outs, etc.) but walking the hallway, no one could tell who was in what clique because every last one of us fuckers all dressed the same: blue $%$!* and t-shirts. (Or, if you felt the need to dress up, your-most-beat-to-shit blue $%$!* and a nice shirt.) Reco dodged a bullet when he was stuck with "drama" because Jonny and Angel just happened to make outfits that were viewed as worse than his peek-a-boo-va-jj-nightie-with-a-vest. And I totally hated the stupid "geek" outfit because it was sooooo boringly obvious. All that people EVER do when they are dressing as some chick as "geek" is pull the girl's hair back into a severe ponytail and stick a fucking pair of glasses on her. Glasses & ponytail =/= Geek!! That's such a stupid and overused cliche. And no doubt many of the other groups felt the same way. "Oh pul-leaze! Just because you stuff the chick into a black dress, paint her nails black and put black lipstick on her, that doesn't make her 'goth'!" and so forth. I'm sure y'all get the idea. The whole "cliques" idea was horrible. What kind of loser would still be hanging onto their old high school glory days of being a member of some small-minded clique by the time they reach their mid-20's like the challenge described?
OldFartToo		#554	[-]
Posts: 689 (06/18/09 2:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cindidindi76 wrote: I have a confession.... I have no idea what the hell QFT means. QUOTED FOR TRUTH
Kenscookie		#555	[-]
Posts: 5598 (06/18/09 2:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carboys Desire wrote: Oh yeah...well nobody likes you. So there.
3hairsandyouremine		#556	[-]
Posts: 624 (06/18/09 2:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can't wait until tonight's episode so we can quit rehashing b girls. If they had said Hip Hop, Angel would have known what that was.
sugarrhill		#557	[-]
Posts: 4055 (06/18/09 2:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	peek-a-boo-va-jj-nightie-with-a-vest ETA: All that people EVER do when they are dressing as some chick as "geek" is pull the girl's hair back into a severe ponytail and stick a fucking pair of glasses on her. Glasses & ponytail =/= Geek!! She's All That definitely put a spotlight on that particular FAIL. "I can make any girl prom queen. Oh no, not the girl with the excellent bone structure, pigtail and glasses!" Last Edited By: sugarrhill 06/18/09 2:33 PM. Edited 1 times.
Kenscookie		#558	[-]
Posts: 5599 (06/18/09 2:29 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ ITA They didn't start talking about Hip Hop until the end, when they were judging. Also, I just remembered, I worked with a couple of girls in the early 90s who were definitely Hip Hop girls (although I never heard them use the term b-girl) and they were always walking around in puffy vests. Didn't Angel make a puffy vest? Jeeze, I don't even remember what she made anymore at this point. I guess it definitely is time to put this to bed already. The good news is that finally an episode of this crapfest actually got a reaction out of us.
3hairsandyouremine		#559	[-]
Posts: 627 (06/18/09 2:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tonight's show looks promising. Walk of Shame outfits. Something to wear when you're out whoring around that can be restyled the next morning for work. I don't know about anyone else, but I prefer to do my whoring on weekends.
NickF227		#560	[-]
Posts: 9522 (06/18/09 2:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There are actually a few B-Girls at my school. They are just the fucksticks for the B-Boys. ETA: ANd I totally remember one of them wearing a vest combo thing like Angel designed.

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