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Pulau Tiga |
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Pearl Islands was epic. And beautifully edited.
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Dictatorship |
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except FIJI!
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tullfan2 |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:Actually, personality started to take a back seat to strategy in post-merge portion of Survivor Amazon because of Rob C . The post-merge portion of Pearl Islands was even crazier than Amazon's with all the flip flopping. All Stars was a major step backward because two thirds of the cast were from the first 3 seasons when alliances stuck together for the whole season based on tribal loyalty and many of them did not even watch Amazon and Pearl Islands. With the exception of Dolly and John K., Vanuatu had the best cast of gamers of any season because they watched Amazon and Pearl Islands. People were making strategy moves pre-merge that you generally didn't see till post-merge in the earlier seasons. The Fat Five formed their alliance on day 1, even though Chris/Sarge/Bubba and Rory/Chad were on opposite sides of the political spectrum, because the 4 young guys were hamging out together. Eliza and Lisa turned on their allies in episodes 2 and 3. Ami's paranoia took out Bubba and Lisa. Julie lied to Twila to keep her from siding with the men. The ideal Survivor season emphasizes character development and camp life before the merger and emphasizes gameplay after the merger. The main flaw to the original format of the show during the first 5 seasons was that there were always stretches of 3 to 4 predictable and boring episodes during the post-merge where a larger group just picks off the smaller group and at that point the contestants are so weak and hungry that they have little incentive and energy to do much of anything other than sit or lie around. Production really needed to do something (eg. the Outcasts) to shake up that part of the season. As much as it seems to be despised around here, starting with Fiji, the Hidden Immunity Idol has livened up the post-merge part of the season as compared to Australia/Africa/Marquesas/Thailand post-merge which were boring for the most part. |
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Amazon <3
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WTFscissoring8 |
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the OP is right. watching jan bury a dead bat, listening to richard hatch's whiny observations about society, and putting up with another pre-scripted
cesternino quip were way more exciting than anything after season 8.
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mecansodemactors |
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Hippownage wrote: No |
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mecansodemactors wrote: Yes |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 7764 (03/16/09 7:01 PM) Registered user |
tullfan2 wrote: I agree with everything except your acceptence of the HII. Survivor is very dynamic by its very nature, because it's a social experiment. The HII impedes this dynamicism because it assumes everyone wants to play the game. When talking about the show, you have to assume that people are playing optimally. When they are, the person who discovers the HII is always in a position of unresonable power. An alliance forms and it keeps people in a certain pecking order. That's not interesting, it's the same thing you just raillied against. If they aren't playing optimally, the HII still has unresonable power because the holder is totally unpredictable and people hedge their bets by aligning with their vote. In other words, the idol fundamentally changes the show from its roots and makes it a game of who controls the idol, not surviving. On a side note, Amazon and Pearl Islands were two great seasons that just happened to be the introduction to that most hated creature, the mactor. |
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China's cast was good. I remember all of them. They were edited well.
Gabon, even if I hated the ending, the entire cast is memorable for me. Early boots were given airtime which cannot be said for Fiji & Cook Islands. So far, Tocantins is good. |
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OzarkSurvivor |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:China and Micronesia pretty much showed that this is false. It's actually very easy to get rid of the person with the idol, you just make them think they're safe without using it. |
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Pulau Tiga wrote: THIS I agree with. There wasn't a character I didn't know on Pearl Islands. .... ok, Darrah. But otherwise, perfectly edited season. And as much as the Outcasts was SO wrong, it made the season SO good. And Sandra was just the most entertaining winner ever ("I think she, you know, liked her.... In a sexual way." LMAO!!! "Oh, I know it ain't me." L M A O!!!! "No, you have to say something bad about me. Go ahead." LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Where is that snake motherfucker Jon?" LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!) I think Pearl Islands is my fave season.
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Vibration Nation |
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The first 3 seasons were definitely the worst. Amazon, China, and Thailand had a lot of unlikable people that you just couldn't root for.
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ncassaro |
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Vibration Nation wrote: Those were not the first three seasons, douche tool. |
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ncassaro |
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Thailandsurvivor wrote: Totally disagree.... just re-watched Outback last summer. Amber/Nick were LESS visible than I remembered them being. |
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Vibration Nation |
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ncassaro wrote: I didn't say they were dumbass. |
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kishuu |
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Vibration Nation wrote:This coming from the person who has Margie/Luke as his avatar |
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lol, my favorite seasons are seasons 1-3. I still get goosepimples when I think back to the summer of 2000.
We will never have another Borneo style edited cast. Everything now is about the game (less about personalities) and how many blindsides and 20 year olds can be fit into a single season. |
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WTFscissoring8 wrote:nothing cesternino said was "pre scripted" the fact of the matter is that it's impossible for his comments to be pre scripted since they where about the situations he was in and the people he was around, which are things that he didnt know about when he could've "pre-scripted" them. you know how dumb thinking that is so please stop |
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O2JamFreak |
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PI <3
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