augustus713 wrote:
Jenna gets a lot more hate than she deserves. Was she the best winner? Not by a mile, but she wasn't even close to the worst either. Not when you have winners like Vecepia, Bob and Amber around.
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Miles Edgeworth |
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Jenna gets a lot more hate than she deserves. Was she the best winner? Not by a mile, but she wasn't even close to the worst either. Not when you have winners like Vecepia, Bob and Amber around.Your statement makes little sense since the two bolded players you refer to were way better players. |
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kishuu |
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Miles Edgeworth wrote: I give you Vecepia but Amber a better player? Really? |
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Vecepia wasn't that bad imo. She didn't all that much "right" to get to that point, but she didn't really do any mistakes either.
(gameplay wise). She was smart enough to find out her best option(s) in the situations she was put in, and voted that way. (Not that it took a rocket scientist
to figure out). Her final TC performance was fairly good aswell.
Jenna M's gameplay was a disaster throughout the entire game and she barely did anything right. All she did was being a pawn that wasn't disposable enough to worry about and a goat for the finals. as for amber... idk, all she did was to ride coattails. but atleast she chose the right coattails to ride... maybe she deserves some cred for that? >.> her final TC was a nauseting disaster, tho. and she never did anything on her own. jenna prolly gets the upper hand here due to immunity wins and a better final TC performance. this is all my opinion off course
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Ambient Nite |
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Dick Donato
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spyzsrvvrcharmd |
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BOB should've been on that list @_@
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smellofawoman |
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Should have been VECEPIA over Jenna. THat bitch didn't deserve a single vote. Vecepia may be the worst winner ever, but if Neleh had won, she'd be instead. |
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Jenna's performance in the last 3 days alone put her miles and miles ahead of Vecepia. Jenna may have complained, may have contemplated leaving, but she
played the game the whole way through - and went on to make every correct decision down the home stretch. Morasca would more then likely make the first half of
my most deserving winners list.
Vecepia did nothing until merge where she fell into the right alliance and let everyone else (including Neleah) play for her... however it wasn't because she was smart or playing the game, it was strictly because she didn't know how.
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MajorTom |
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Contemplating leaving can hardly be held against Jenna. I'm sure plenty of Survivor winners have thought about leaving when they've been stuck out in
the middle of nowhere with no food and barely any water.
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kishuu |
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Add on to the fact that she was actually sick during that period.
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MikeHaggarKJ |
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jenna didnt really do anything in terms of strategt in the past few days, she just won a few immunities in the end. she was also a total bitch & her work
ethic was retarded: "if i have the numbers, i dont have work b/c i have the power! If i don't have the numbers, i dont have to work cuz theyre just
gonna vote me off!!"
V was atleast smart enough to go along the flow: for example, when she switched tribes with rob m and sean, she without a doubt managed to put herself in the best position out of those 3. |
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MajorTom |
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Jenna's awesome jury performance <3
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Miles Edgeworth |
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Peope who think vee did nothing obvo havent watched Marquesas. Vee was the one who put the alphas against each other and took the target off her before the
shuffle. After the shuffle she got the fuck away from Sean and Rob when they started acting like clowns further ingratiating herself within her new tribe. She
was instrutmental in orchestrating the first post merge successful power shift in survivor history. She stayed quiet and let sean dig his grave. Won immunity
when she had to and broke that alliance when she realized that she couldnt beat Kathy.
Compare that to Jeena who spent the majority of her time on that island in a summercamp enviroment hanging out with the popular kids. If Rob was half as smart as he claimed he would have owned her ass when she was stupid enough to give up immunity. You might do better comparing Jenna to Amber or even Bob. Saying Jenna was better than Vee is ridiculous |
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MajorTom |
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Jenna was better than Vee
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BBSpencer |
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Rob M and Sean were huge loudmouths, Vecepia had nothing to do with her position at the swap.
Vecepia would have my credit if she knew how to count. At final 7 she should have flipped with Sean to form a final 4 with Rob and Tammy to take out Kathy/Pascal/Neleh. Instead she tried to get Kathy to flip at final 5 because "Neleh and Paschal have a final 2". Well, so did you and Sean, idiot. Who is Kathy going to side with, the people she knew since Day 1 or people in an identical situation that she met at the merge? She got to the final 2 because she said "ok, sure" to everyone who was making a move in the game. K/P/N at final 9, Kathy at final 4, Neleh at final 3. She only won because, besides Sean, people were voting for either Neleh to win or voting for Neleh to lose out of spite. Same exact outcome would have happened had the final 2 been Neleh+Sean, 4-3 for Sean to win. Or Vecepia+Kathy/Paschal, 4-3 Vecepia wins. I don't want to hear Vecepia was still smart to bring a goat to the final 2 for the guarantee win, because she didn't, she just said "yes" to everything. I really wouldn't mind her win if she didn't blow it up at the reunion as if she played an amazing game, instead of giving credit where credit was due, a la Bob. Jenna whined a lot, maybe one of the worst human beings in Survivor history, but at least she did shit when it came to the vote instead of wait for someone to tell her what to do like Vecepia. |
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MikeHaggarKJ |
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^^Hey i'm not saying V was good, just better then Jenna :P. im not going to have a big argument, you prolly know
more about this then me anyway. but I do have a question about something you wrote:
BBSpencer wrote:WHAT exactly did jenna do?? as far as i can tell, the bitch just hung around as a pawn in other people's plans/strategies, and then she won the last 2 immunities and took the least likeable person to the finals (and won, as a result). she didn't do anything to avoid the vote, people just never really had any reason to vote her off. |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Vee was and still is a better player then Jenna and majority of the other winners this show has had.
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BBSpencer |
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I paid more attention to Marquesas than Amazon, so maybe my memory is a bit off, but wasn't Jenna behind the Christy boot? I was pretty sure she approached
the idea to Rob who followed it through. Granted, I think Jenna's true inspiration to take out Christy was just to watch a deaf girl cry (I just laughed
thinking about that), but she directly changed her position in the game. Whereas, people around Vecepia made moves that changed her position in the game.
And as annoying as a "we're the popular girls!" strategy is, it's an effective one. |
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Miles Edgeworth |
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MajorTom wrote:Quoted for stupidity. final 7 she should have flipped with Sean to form a final 4 with Rob and Tammy to take out Kathy/Pascal/Neleh.She should have flipped to the people who would have snaked her in a heartbeat to advance? That would have been retarded. Rob and tammy were obviously closer to the other 2 and would have gladly swapped positions with Sean and Vee if given the chance. It wasnt that much of a stretch to think that she would have sided with the people who weren't going to snake her if not for a tribal challenge pointing out the obvious. I don't want to hear Vecepia was still smart to bring a goat to the final 2 for the guarantee win, because she didn't, she just said "yes" to everything. Hate to tel you this but Vee was the one who made the offer to Neleh at the end, breaking her alliance with Kathy in the process. She obviously knew who to bring she didnt just say "yes" to everything as you seem to imply. I really wouldn't mind her win if she didn't blow it up at the reunion as if she played an amazing game The only thing she bragged about was blowing up Hunters head. Other than that I havent heard all this patting on the back. As I have said before, Jenna played a summer camp game. Even when it was only her and Heidi, Heidi called the shots. Jenna made decisions when she was forced to because nobody else was around. She won a jury that was not only bitter at Matt but were also her bffs. |
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Miles Edgeworth |
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but wasn't Jenna behind the Christy boot?No that was all Rob's baby. Both rob and Heidi were trying to recruit christy and christy wouldnt committ to one side. So Rob approached the girls and they all agreed to take out Christy. |
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