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Posts: 389 (02/18/09 10:02 PM) I need a life |
One thing that doesn't make sense.
How could Widmore not know how to get back to the island if he knew Faraday's mother's address? He must know that Faraday's mother (Eloise) has the Dharma pendulum thing and knows how to use it. |
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Beautiful Patsy |
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Posts: 603 (02/18/09 10:08 PM) |
Geez, I'm so confused. Kate must have fulfilled Sawyer's secret request and that gave her the release to leave, but....what did she do with Aaron? I think that Aaron was sent to Korea to Sun's family. Last episode, Sun told her daughter that she found an American friend for her.I'm guessing she gave Aaron to Claire's mother. After all, Claire's mom would have the real claim to him and Kate knew she was in town. She just had to go over there and explain it all to her, or maybe just leave him on her doorstep with a note or something. Something like that is my guess. |
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Posts: 8 (02/18/09 10:16 PM) |
Yes; the water bottles from the show 2 weeks ago, were from the same airline that they were flying on tonight, so I guess the plane must have crashed.. Or at
least it has crashed there at some time.. Who knows;;; love this show...
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Posts: 23902 (02/18/09 10:17 PM) Gadabout |
The Eastern-looking guy who was on the plane has been in a lot of movies and I bet he's gonna be a semi-regular.
From the previews for next week we pretty much know that Locke is resurrected...he's talking to Sayid's "air marshal" on the beach. We also see Ben with him as he's hanging himself, which leads me to believe that they made some kind of Snape/Dumbledore pact and that Locke intentionally killed himself to take the place of Christian. |
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Posts: 3013 (02/18/09 10:20 PM) Registered user |
Rebecca Mader is on Chelsea Lately right now.
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Posts: 20017 (02/18/09 10:23 PM) |
Oy. They can't bring Shannon back but that damn van gets more cameos than Hitchcock.
Great episode tonight. Such a mundane way to return to the island but they somehow pulled it off suspensefully and eerily. Weird that Jin would have a shotgun as a dharma worker. This leads to all kinds of things that could be going on at this particular point of time on the island. After a few average set up episodes, this show is all the way back now! |
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ANDand19 |
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Posts: 3014 (02/18/09 10:27 PM) Registered user |
Does this mean this is 3 years later for the islanders as well? I was under the impression all that was going on at the same time.
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StarRider |
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Posts: 20019 (02/18/09 10:30 PM) |
I'm not sure. I promised myself not to get wrapped up in this timeline stuff until they finally settle on one.
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Posts: 4136 (02/18/09 10:32 PM) Registered user |
ANDand19 wrote:I would think so. (But who ever really knows until they tell us.) Jin was settled into "life" on the island. I'm guessing they've all been living in Otherville. He also didn't seem unstuck in time any more. Another thing to ponder over the island moving, and who knows it,etc. are the supply drops. Someone, somewhere has to know where to go to drop it. |
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Posts: 1863 (02/18/09 10:33 PM) Registered user |
I too think that Aaron is with Sun's kid.
Oh, and has it been established exactly WHAT the O6 (minus Aaron, and Walt for that matter) hope to accomplish by going back? Do they simply help the other Oceanic Survivors survive but ONLY to remain on the island? Or do they hope to get themselves ALL off at some point? I was wanting Jack to ask Eloise (Faraday's mum) that! I need clarification dammit! |
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Aunt Pappy |
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Posts: 17742 (02/18/09 10:37 PM) |
I don't think Kate would give Aaron to Claire's mother because she would then know about the island and what's been going on. |
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Mickey K2 |
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Posts: 968 (02/18/09 10:38 PM) Registered User |
I still can't believe Sun would leave her daughter behind. That just doesn't make sense for a parent to do that.Who's to say that they have to stay on the island. Micheal and Walt were allowed to leave. We've seen Richard and Tom go back and forth. Or... Maybe in S6 we see a grown up Aaron and Ji looking for the island like so many before them. In any case we won't know till the fat lady sings. |
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scepticA |
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Posts: 1492 (02/18/09 10:39 PM) Registered User |
Random thoughts. The last 20 minutes made the episode; before that it was pretty mundane, but got through some stuff that had to be done.
I know at some point they'd have to go into some exposition about the island's hopping, and I'm glad they got rid of that so fast. I mean, that whole thing in the church and a lot of the plot points relating to it later were a bit too much like, "This MacGuffin chamber was built by the MacGuffins over mysterious MacGuffin energy and we used formulas derived by professor MacGuffin..." (Look up Alfred Hitchcock if you don't know what I mean by MacGuffin.) It was serviceable, made basically no sense at all, but drove the plot along just fine. But the tension on the airplane was wonderful. Lapetus was superb, with the best line of the night, maybe a top ten series line: "We're not going to Guam, are we..." And the moment I saw Ben leave the church I thought he was going after Penny. Sorry, but if he kills Penny (or little Charlie) he is no longer a fascinating and flawed character but scum. Also, did anyone else even slightly wonder if Locke was going to talk to Jack when the shoes were put on? I kept expecting an eye to open... Also, where's Walt? Is he in the back of the plane somewhere? Why isn't he part of this??? |
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kittymistress |
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Posts: 284 (02/18/09 10:39 PM) Registered User |
The scene with Ben at the marina was meant to make us think he had gone after Penny. Now, let's be realistic, shall we? Last time we saw Dez on his boat
was in England. Unless the scenes with Dez/Widmore happened WAY before the scenes with the O6, we are to believe that Dez and Penny sailed their boat across
the Atlantic, through the Panama Canal, and up the west coast to LA, in a matter of hours? I think we will find that Dez flew to LA and was nowhere near a
marina. That, or the writers have some serious explaining to do.
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Posts: 17743 (02/18/09 10:42 PM) |
Walt is no longer "needed" by the island. He got to big for his bed.
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Posts: 950 (02/18/09 10:44 PM) Registered User |
Aunt Pappy wrote:Why would that matter? All she would have to do is say Claire died during childbirth and Kate raised him from the beginning. Which is why she kept him. But she can't raise him anymore. Why else would she be in an episode? We thought she was behind the blood test. Then we thought we were tricked. Now we know exactly why she was there. As Claire told Kate, don't bring him back. I don't see any other explanation that's any better. Loved the episode tonight. Ben was awesome as usual. I like Des, but I like Ben more. And if he killed Penny, fine with me. Could be the reason Des goes back to the island... Really, it's the only one I can imagine. |
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Posts: 23903 (02/18/09 10:46 PM) Gadabout |
The six coordinates displayed in the Lamppost:
1 - 0 27 16.5 n, 158 39 17.6 e - about halfway between Micronesia and the Solomon Islands. It's the only plot on the list within a few thousand kilometers of Guam, but it's nowhere near a direct flight path from LAX. 2 - 24 14 33 s, 172 15 17.5 e - a couple hundred kilometers south of Vanuatu 3 - 23 17 36.5 s, 163 4 3.7 e - just west of the Cook Islands 4 - 28 15 59.2 s, 135 21 49.3 e - several hundred kilometers west of the Pitcairn Islands 5 - 15 42 45 s, 145 57 27.1 e - smack dab in the middle of the Palliser Islands of French Polynesia, eight miles east of Toau atoll 6 - 29 43 31.3 s, 174 17 32.5 e - essentially the middle of nowhere, somewhere between the Cooks and New Zealand They plot no real pattern; the first four zigzag southeast across Oceania and then 5 and 6 zig north and then southwest. They don't make any kind of ring that the island could be in the middle of, and if they represent possibilities for the island's location then at least #5 would be eliminated because it's in the middle of a populated archipelago. The coordinates next to 316 on the flight list Hawking gives Jack are simply the coordinates of downtown Los Angeles. |
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Posts: 884 (02/18/09 10:50 PM) MESS member |
aslanscubs wrote: I agree. I don't mind seeing Jack. He's part of the story and I'm glad we got more of his tonight. I would sure like to know how Ben's mom taught him to read being dead and all. It was a funny line though. |
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Posts: 951 (02/18/09 10:52 PM) Registered User |
Aunt Pappy wrote:The whole 3 years into the future got me thinking Walt could be involved again. Guess not. Wish Michael and Walt could both be around. TPTB really screwed up that storyline as of this moment. Who really knows how it will end and if we'll see closure. |
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Posts: 23904 (02/18/09 10:55 PM) Gadabout |
Real fans hate Jack because a) his backstory sucks, and b) he traditionally stands in the way of progressing the mytharc. This was a different kind of Jack ep
because it gave us no boring backstory and he's no longer fighting Ben/Locke. So it's all good.
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