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BillGuido |
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Would make sense, Kenneth. Especially if perhaps she is Wakefield's sister.
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The Heartbreak Yid |
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This shows still on?
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tullfan2 |
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Possible theory. I've started thinking that the murders may be done by a conspiracy of Jimmy, Shane and Maggie.
It really seems as if Shane could have killed Cole and JD. He is unaccounted for after Jimmy and Abby freed him from jail and he had threatened JD earlier (as well as tried to kill him a few days earlier). Shane is one of the few people who knows where Cole Harkin is. After being freed, he gets his truck and goes to Harkin's cabin where he thinks that JD would be. He gets there and sees that JD is not there so he kills Cole (with the arrows) instead (for helping JD). He then figures that JD might attempt to flee the island so he drives to the marina and spots JD and kills him. Jimmy was unaccounted for when the prison guard was shot. He could have broken into the prison and shot the guard and blew away the short wave radio with the second shot. Jimmy was trying to help Shane escape without being seen but he didn't know that JD had been taken to the prison by the sherriff. It's possible that class issues are driving the murders. Jimmy and Shane may both hate the upper crust Wellingtons because the Wellingtons think that fishermen like Jimmy and Shane are inferior to them. Jimmy and Shane could both resent Henry for marrying into the Wellington family. Shane has always hated JD for some unknown reason. Jimmy is resentful of Abby because she left him without saying goodbye and she ditched him for the big city life. I think that both Jimmy and Shane knew that Uncle Marty had the $250K and killed him to rob him of the money. Maggie is involved maybe because she will get a portion of the $250K or because she doesn't want to end up being killed by Jimmy or Shane. I don't think that Maggie kills anyone but her access to the Inn and her knowledge of the wedding procedures allows Jimmy and Shane to carry out their plans. I think that Maggie may have been the person that kidnapped Madison. In terms of the murders, I think that Shane is responsible for most of the more physically violent ones whereas Jimmy is responsible for the murders that have involved more skill and intelligence. Maggie took the $250K from Uncle Marty's room and gave it to Jimmy. Jimmy took the money and hid it in the boat. He also rigged the gun to kill anyone who might find the money. Jimmy and Shane's plans go awry because they didn't realize that Hunter would take that boat to leave the island and then eventually Malcolm would take the money and sink the boat by shooting a hole in it. Jimmy's murder victims: Cousin Ben Hunter (not planned) Mr Wellington Richard (since Shane was in jail) Malcolm (?) The deputy Shane's murder victims: Uncle Marty Reverand Fain Kelly (because she was seeing JD and he overheard her talking to Abby at the Cannery) Lucy (he was at the bonfire party and Jimmy wasn't) Cole Harkin JD Maggie kidnapped Madison, took the $250K from Uncle Marty's room and put Uncle Marty's cell phone in JD's room. The only murder that isn't necessarily explained by this theory is Malcolm's since it seems as if Jimmy was at the docks with Abby at the time that Malcolm was murdered. It's possible that Maggie could have killed Malcolm. Now watch this theory get blown apart when Shane is murdered next week.
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Que |
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Then why would the shows premise be....
25 SUSPECTS 1 killer That's the tag line. |
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UrbanSprawl |
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The Holy Shea Bible
Chapter 6: Shot Through the Heart After the grisly rehearsal, Abby receives a call on her cell phone: it's the same Ave Maria clip as was heard in episode one. "Ave, Maria" in English is "Hail, Mary," a term taken from a traditional Catholic and Orthodox church prayer calling for the interceding of Mary, mother of Jesus, on behalf of others. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Shea is the only mother in the Harper's Island group. (Sorry, Mrs. Wellington is a trophy wife at best.) More importantly, both the prayer and the song are a reverent cry for the social intervention of a mother, full of grace and free of guilt. Ave Maria! maiden mild!
Ave Maria! undefiled!
Ave Maria! stainless styled!
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Katy Carney |
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iismepeter wrote: Whoa whoa whoa. Hold the fuck up. |
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Drew B |
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Que wrote: It's a marketing campaign. They will say whatever they think will bring in the most viewers, whether or not it actually reflects what happens in the show. In the film and TV world, the people who put together the marketing are not the same as the people who make the show. You cannot count on anything that is used to market the show to be factual. When the movie "The Family Stone" came out, all of the marketing showed a raucous comedy, completely hiding the fact that it was a mom-dies-of-cancer story. When "Muriel's Wedding" came out, there were two-page newspaper ads screaming "You'll never guess the secret at the heart of Muriel's Wedding". What was the secret? THERE WASN'T ONE! |
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Miles Edgeworth |
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In terms of killers wed be better off eliminating the obvious and going from there. Obviously not sheriff since he was in the house for the death of cole
and its not shane since he was def in jail for the cops murder. Id say one of those two will buy it next. Unless abby and jimmy pulled away from the other
squeezed off two shots, shot cole, set him on fire found the other than came upon the scene again I would say it isnt those two. timelines can be played with
to make it anybody else. Nikki and Maggies continued absence make those two extremely suspect.
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Kenneth |
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UrbanSprawl wrote:The repeated use of this pic is my favorite part of the Shea Bible. I look forward to the next chapter. <3 |
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Kenneth wrote: Yea but Henry also wrote like that. I think the same offcamera guy just wrote both of them. |
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superkyle |
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I finally managed to catch this episode... I've been saying that Maggie is the killer ever since episode 2, and I still think that that's the case.
She told everybody at the hotel that the generators were fine, and none of them went to check on them. After she took them to Richard's room, she disappeared while everybody else went looking for Maddison. That's more than enough time to tell the boat to leave, to kill the deputy, to do all that other stuff. I've gotten more and more suspicious of Henry, but Maggie is still my number one. And if she's not the killer, I hope she's the only survivor (along with GiGi), and she kills Henry at the end, saving Harper's Island for another day. And GiGi is totally working with the killer. Not only did she signal the killer that Cole was in position to be shot, but earlier she led Trish and Mr. Wellington to the log trap and took the sheriff to the other trap. I wonder what sad, traumatic thing happened in her childhood that led her to this place that she's in now? Perhaps she witnessed her family being murdered by the humane society after they were taken away from Wakefield, who owned the family. It turned her into a twisted canine, and she helped set this whole thing up. |
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cabanachat |
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At this point, if it's not Maggie or Henry, then this has to be the absolute worst display of bad editing/writing in years. Man, I love this cheesefest!
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tullfan2 |
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Que wrote: Two reasons. 1. All of the suspects that are still alive have an alibi for at least one of the murders. If there is only a single killer and it must be one of the 25 suspects then Booth being the killer and faking his death is the only possibility that I haven't eliminated. If the single killer is not one of the suspects then you are left with possibilities like Wakefield is still alive and is the killer or some nonentity that we know nothing about (eg, the groundskeeper) is the killer. 2. If there is only a single killer then he is superhuman. He is extremely intelligent, physically strong, seems to be all knowing and always seems to be in the right place at the right time. It seems more likely that the murders result from the combined efforts of a few people.
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Crowlass |
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It's a marketing campaign. They will say whatever they think will bring in the most viewers, whether or not it actually reflects what happens in the show. In the film and TV world, the people who put together the marketing are not the same as the people who make the show. You cannot count on anything that is used to market the show to be factual.I would agree with this accept for the fact that the executive producer was quoted saying there was only one killer. That is completely different from just the marketing of the show. And not everyone has an alibi. Nikki and Maggie are still alibi-less and there are a few murders we have witnessed that could have been done with traps ala Hunter (like JD's.) |
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Kenneth wrote:I'm glad you called him/her out! |
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Maggie's the only suspect left with no alibis. Nikki knocked on Kelly's door asking for her when she was already dead...don't think she'd do
that if she was the killer.
I agree that some of the deaths may have been traps. I'm not sure how harpoons work, but Richard's death could've been a trap...maybe he stepped on something that triggered the harpoon to go off, then retract. He was perfectly positioned in front of Madison's window, after all. And we still don't know how JD was killed. I agree though that so many characters can be eliminated as suspects because almost all of them have really strong alibis. |
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FermatsLastThm |
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I'm sorry, but do you really even know what an alibi is? Nikki knocking on Kelly's door may lead you to believe that she had no knowledge of
Kelly's death, but it in no way precludes her from committing the murder.
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cindidindi76 |
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Fcuk You ywia wrote: Richard did that, so he could save her and get in her good graces. My point is...have you ever been to a wedding where the lights were turned off during the ceremony and not before? I haven't. I've never been to one where they turned the lights off before. Ever.
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Tom2433 |
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I'm sorry, but do you really even know what an alibi is? Nikki knocking on Kelly's door may lead you to believe that she had no knowledge of Kelly's death, but it in no way precludes her from committing the murder. Not saying it's necessarily an ALIBI (although if you wanna get technical with what an "alibi" is, then a legit one would be that Nikki was bartending when the reverend was killed)... but you really think that Nikki would hang Kelly, leave, then come back when nobody else is around, knock on the door asking for her, then call the Sheriff when she found the dead body? Umm, no. |
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wrsrules |
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Nikki's alibis to me are tending bar during the scavanger hunt when the priest was murdered.
Being in Kelly's house with the Sherriff when lucy was torched. And possably being on the island when Cousin Ben was killed. |
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