Burrito Taco wrote:
I hope Yau or Parvati wins and Rob gets second again.![]()
Then he would be ROBbed twice!
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Stalwart |
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Burrito Taco wrote: Then he would be ROBbed twice! |
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Micronesia Princess |
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Katy Carney wrote: Yes! It is official Parvati is the last winner left! I smell another Parvictory! |
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Burrito Taco |
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Impact Blue wrote:I'm just glad Yau Man beat Earl and won Fiji. <3 Seeing these TAR avatars makes me realize I have like six episodes to catch up. |
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CSCin3D |
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My fucking God you're pathetic Micronesia Princess (aka Middle Kingdom, Stalwart, Penthesilia, Nightrider, Impact Blue, Todesco 10, Nogales, Charite, Gojoseon, Xyston, 6luttony, Onrider, Xingqu, KiLLamanjaro, Breadwinner, Yasothon, 7 Sages, Stallionaire, menelaus, Buccaneer, Genesis and MANY MORE) Everybody ignore this mentally deranged freak and maybe it will go away. |
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SwineForkbeard |
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It's RavuRules, I'm telling you. Not only did he never leave, but now posts here far more than anybody else. The biggest giveaway was that the
ghosties all had the same quirk that Ravu had of not punctuating the last sentence of every post, until some idiot called him out on it and then all the
ghosties coincidentally stopped doing it. So he may take a few precautions to avoid giving himself away, but it really isn't that subtle if you know what
to look for.
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Katy Carney |
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SwineForkbeard wrote: That would be me I have no idea who Ravu is tho. |
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Burrito Taco |
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So, half of the posts in this thread are posted by the same guy?
That is kind of sad. |
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SwineForkbeard |
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Not that I can speak for Ravu, but since he doesn't seem willing to explain himself, my theory is that he's engaging in a kind of terraforming here,
where his ghostie army will create the illusion that his opinions have more resonance here than they actually do. Since he often looked down on the typical
Sucks poster as an impressionable sheep, I guess he thinks if he can manipulate enough of these polls to reflect his own opinions, the sheep will gradually
come to see them as the "cool" opinions and start imitating them instead of challenging them with dogma of their own.
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Xyston |
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CSCin3D wrote:You know, the biggest perpetrators are the ones with the ghostie armies are the ones doing all the accusing. Isn't it funny how certain very obvious ghosties can go around backing each other up and posting the same things and never get called out? Why don't you just list who your ghosties are. |
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Burrito Taco |
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This is hilarious. This is more interesting than the actual poll.
Can Ravu or one of his split personalities explain to me why he doesn't punctuate his last sentences? |
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colleenlover |
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I don't really follow the newer seasons indepthly, but could someone clarify Parvati's strategy? I'm sure there are people here who could tell me
when she even took a dump and at what time.
She had the women's brigade, correct? But didn't Alexis, Erik and Natalie align to take out Amanda at final six? Wasn't she planning on going final three with Cirie and Amanda? I'm not criticizing, I'm just really unclear on what her plans were if things went ideally for her. Initially, pull in Cirie and promise her the final three in her group of five. Check, right? Twist happens, just lay low and try to counter Jonathan -it's too late to work with him and Eliza which I get. And try to make inroads. I get that too -it's out of her hands. But didn't Natalie control her own moves -and try to shift power to herself? Amanda happened to find the idol. I just see someone like Tina having everyone eating out of the palm of her hand, and when they weren't (Jerri), she executed them. She had Rodger and Elisabeth falling on their swords for one another, she had Keith helping her when he knew he wouldn't win and indepted, she had Colby without hesitation take her and then tell the jury he didn't deserve it more than Tina (or at least say, "I don't know if I do.") Even in All-stars, though it wasn't shown, Tina was using logic right through the end -telling Rupert she'd help him win and outright telling the council to Rudy and Rupert that Jerri and Jenna won't take them to the end because they need the money. I just saw Tina as someone who is so stealth, killing everyone with kindness that you don't see it until you've been run over. |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:We don't know if Parvati would've been the next gone. Fairplay was playing both sides, and Cirie still hadn't committed to a side, so we don't know who would've gotten out if Fairplay didn't quit. All we know is what the editors showed us, and we have no idea who would've actually voted who. Remember Fairplay voted for Ozzy. We also don't know if Jonathan/Kathy stayed in if Parvati would've been out next. NuAirai never went to TC once, so everything about who "would've" gotten is speculation. One fact is that Natalie/Alexis jumped over to Parvati's side pretty quickly. We do know, however, that Parvati would not have won if it weren't a Final 2, because Eliza and Alexis have both confirmed that they would've voted Cirie, and Erik, Ozzy and James already voted Amanda over Parvati, so the only voted Parvati could've gotten were Natalie and Jason. But I don't think we'll ever know if the Final 2 was planned, but I think it is. I don't think they would've changed that just because James got evacuated. I think the "they were short a challenge" theory is ridiculous, because James getting evacuated left them with one extra challenge that they could've used for reward. They had just done a finale in China with a reward challenge and an immunity challenge, then a Final 3, and they had no reason not to do that in Micronesia, too. If they wanted a Final 3, they could've and would've done it. I think that the Final 2 was planned all along. Parvati's win does not have an asterisk next to it. |
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Buccaneer |
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Katy Carney |
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Tina's game is exaggerated greatly. Everyone says she had all this power. All it came down to was Colby being a self-righteous uppity little bitch. Every
move he made he made because of who he liked and didn't like. That's why he didn't go with Jerri to the finals (where he would have easily won) and
that's why he didn't take Keith (where, again, he would have won). Then in the final tribal council he blatantly threw away jury votes because he
couldn't stand people (Jerri, Keith). He just didn't like them.
Elisabeth was afraid playing the game = giving herself a bad reputation, and she came in with that attitude. It's a great stretch to attribute those things to Tina, in my opinion, although people do frequently. I think Tina was a fine player. All the midwest/south Christians in the f10 loved her down-home style and Tennessee drawl. She just wasn't anything special in my opinion. The things that actually shaped the way the season played out were either a) not a direct result of her gameplay or b) stupid (like giving away the guaranteed majority because you like the way Rodger prays and hate Jerri's curls, or whatever). Even Tina's greatest accomplishment, which was taking control of Ogakor from Jerri, was more a result of Colby's agitation and lack of savvy gameplay than some amazing manipulation on Tina's part. But I don't know what any of that has to do with Parvati. |
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chapera rocks |
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No mutiny: The game plays out until the merge where Candice, Sundra & Jonathan jump over to Nate, Adam & Parvati, screwing Yul over.Sundra was never jumping over. Candice misjudged Sundra's game. And like I said, this is no guarantee simply because Yul (who is a generally perceptive person, with only Candice fooling him) could have sniffed out a strange Jonathan and told him of the idol and all of a sudden he's still in it. Things were easier for him with the mutiny, but not a definite screwed if there was none. He could have gotten himself out of that situation. The no bottle twist does result in Yul idoling out a Raro, and having numbers 5-4. Not only that, but Yul was never going to get voted out, with or without the idol. Sundra and Becky were up his ass, and Ozzy was too much of a non-player to flip on anyone. You're right here, he did get lucky with this one. The only counter-argument is once again Ozzy's lack of game, and the fact that he never said he'd take Becky ... but has said that he wanted to go head to head with Yul, so I don't think he definitely would have taken Becky. We don't know if Parvati would've been the next gone. Fairplay was playing both sides, and Cirie still hadn't committed to a side, so we don't know who would've gotten out if Fairplay didn't quit. All we know is what the editors showed us, and we have no idea who would've actually voted who. Remember Fairplay voted for Ozzy.Please. Fairplay has said that he was voting out Parvati. And Cirie has said that she only flipped on JAYE because of the whole Yau-Man wanting to send Jonathan to exile in EPISODE 3. But I don't think we'll ever know if the Final 2 was planned, but I think it is.Except it wasn't planned. If there was a final 2 planned, that would mean a finale were 3 people were voted out and that just doesn't happen. Its too jumbled. Combine that with the fact that Eliza was on the jury and the spoiler that an injury changed it to a final 2 and you can say for almost certain that the final 2 was NOT planned. |
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Katy Carney |
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I don't understand
1) why they wouldn't just alter the schedule of the challenges as there have been many episodes in the past without tribal councils, including post-merge evacuations where those members were on the jury (like Bruce) or 2) how production timeline of a twist is relevant to gameplay anyway |
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colleenlover |
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But I don't know what any of that has to do with Parvati.
I was equating the finesse at which I believe Tina played. I was stating Parvati had people pissed at her left and right (Eiza, James, Ozzy) -doesn't matter if they are justified in that, it's just a fact of how they would be leaving the game, whereas Tina was putting people on the jury still championing her. I think if Colby is an "uptity bitch" is part of why Tina kept him close to her or else she'd go another avenue -that's how she operated. I have no gravitation to someone like Tina in real life -but I was always watching that season saying, damn that woman is smooth. The most devious mind to play the game. She scares the bejesus out of me and if I were to play a game where she and Parvati were returning, I'd want Tina out right away. |
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RobVanStratus |
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Tina was a sharp, calculated player that knew what she was doing. She played her cards right as the sweet, southern mother that no one thought was deceptive.
She played her cards correctly, getting the religious card thrown in there for support from Rodger/Liz. She made the connections to them so that they
wouldn't cause problems for her after Jerri getting voted off. Everyone fell for her game and she was able to get the other tribe to play right into her
hand and help her to victory. You can't fault Tina for playing a fantastic game and owning everyone else because it is an early season. It was the 2nd
season and you had Tina orchestrating a group effort from both tribes to get rid of the queen bitch of the season, something you wouldn't expect after the
first season with Tagi sticking together and picking off Pagong.
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chapera rocks |
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One thing that bugs me is that people give so much credit to Tina for "playing" Colby, and yet if she had won the final IC, she would have taken him
as well.
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Katy Carney |
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colleenlover wrote: Yeah, I just don't see it that way. I've never heard Tina talk about her game in the manner in which she is credited. I don't believe she attached herself to Colby because she knew he was volatile and short-sighted, I think she just liked him and maybe had a crush on him, but I don't know. From her mouth it's always about how they were both so deserving, which doesn't endear me to her or assure me of her shrewd gameplay. As far as jury votes go, both Tina and Parvati voted off their allies, some of which liked them anyway and some of which didn't. In some cases (like Jerri for Tina and Eliza for Parvati) they were merely less offended by them than the person they were sitting next to. In other cases (Alexis and Nat for Parvati and Elisabeth for Tina) they were heavy supporters. |
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