Carly Smithson, Your American Idol 2008

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seaguy		#1621	[-]
Posts: 10137 (04/13/08 9:27 AM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wonder if the tards started a thread about "What are we going to do about Syesha" in those few minutes she was on top. This overanalysis of Carly and prior seasons is giving me a headache. Who cares, we can't compare prior seasons because they are over and it has no bearing on this one. So that said... Drunk Irish Potato Plant Shitson Bitch <3
ProbstFan123		#1622	[-]
Posts: 9270 (04/13/08 7:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The past couple of pages of this thread are funny.
suckshardcore		#1623	[-]
Posts: 12998 (04/13/08 7:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carly <3
SurvivorFanGP		#1624	[-]
Posts: 6887 (04/13/08 7:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	<3 Irish Potato <3
I LUV TIJUANA		#1625	[-]
Posts: 8691 (04/13/08 11:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carly > all
dagny1331		#1626	[-]
Posts: 1022 (04/14/08 1:22 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I must say that Carly's voice sounded beautiful in the IGB opening number. I did notice that several times she seemed to be consciously catching herself when she started to furrow her brow, in response to Simon telling her she looked angry during "Show Must Go On." Watch the video--it's kind of cute. She probably never realized she was doing that angry brow all of the time when singing. That said, no one will take away from my Cooktardiness, but I rank Carly 2nd of the final 7 just because I think she seems to be a very nice, warm person with a beautiful voice she hasn't been able to showcase due to her song choices and awkward performances. Plus I have an issue with the extensive tats. I will never, ever, understand the allure of extensive tats or extreme piercings. I do believe Carly would get more votes if she wore sleeves. Shallow, but true, I think.
Sigvold		#1627	[-]
Posts: 7739 (04/14/08 1:52 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I do believe Carly would get more votes if she wore sleeves. Shallow, but true, I think. Oh yes yes yes! She's been sleeveless every time she's appeared on TV, it seems. She has an ugly Tat (it reminds me of the one Nick from BB had on his shoulder). More importantly, she's gotta get her husband to watch the show from home. Every week they put him on TV and he skeeves out 95% of America. His face is covered in tattoos and piercings -- he looks like a walking bacterial infection. People watching think: "OK she's a great singer but something must be wrong with her if that's the guy she married."
dagny1331		#1628	[-]
Posts: 1023 (04/14/08 5:36 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ooooh, I had something typed about her hubby--but decided not to go there! I agree, though. He may be the greatest, sweetest guy in the world, but he's not going to go over too well with most of the viewers based on his looks and demeanor.
ProbstFan123		#1629	[-]
Posts: 9279 (04/14/08 4:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yes, the hubby (and Carly's tattoos) are definitely costing her votes. Like it or not, you have to appeal to Middle America to have any chance of winning. Wearing long sleeves and putting the husband in the cheap seats way in back would be a smart move.
Beautiful Patsy		#1630	[-]
Posts: 319 (04/14/08 6:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, I'm almost a week late but yay Carly! I'm so glad she survived last week. I told myself that if she survived this week I wouldn't care which week she went after that. I'll try to keep my word but I still hope she goes far. In a way, she's my Lakisha for this season. A wardrobe-challenged contestant I like who was very popular at first but quickly became a non-frontrunner. Lakisha defied the odds to last until the Final 4 when everyone was positive she'd be one of the two eliminated in the Final 6, and Carly has survived what many thought would be her last week. By the way, I wonder if she reads DialIdol. She seemed certain she was leaving on the results show; you could see her pointing to herself almost every time Ryan mentioned one of them was going home, and she seemed as if she'd already made peace with it or something and was joking about it, KLC-like. I don't think she'd think she was going home last week unless she had read DI. Also, poor Carly after Michael Johns was eliminated. She was bawling! Did any of you guys notice her while he was singing? Crying her eyes out. It actually looked a little funny, like that girl who cried for Sanjaya. One final thing - Carly must be one of the nicest people to ever be on this program. She really just comes off as incredibly nice and that makes her more endearing to me, because I'd like to see someone genuinely nice like that make it farther.
8trackmind	Carly Smithson Vs. Kimberley Locke	#1631	[-]
Posts: 315 (04/14/08 7:24 PM) I demand attention! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Drew B is really on to something. KLo's problem early in the second season was not her voice or song selection, which were fine from the beginning. It was her weight, her glasses, her hair, her unflattering clothing, her absence of any fashion sense whatsoever and general lack of stage presence. Does all this sound strangely familiar? Substitute the constantly uncovered tattooed arm for the glasses and weight and you have Carly. But for Carly to have any chance to match or surpass KLo, she needs to do what KLo did--dress better, get a better hairstyle, and show star presence on stage. And she MUST cover up that tattoo once in a while. If she insists on making AI a referendum on Tattoos, she will soon be gone. It's very simple. Most people who don't have tattoos think they are distasteful or utterly disgusting. I think the comments about the second season not being competitive are nonsense, though. It was one of Idol's best seasons. Josh was outstanding when he sang country. KimberME's personality got everybody pisssed but she had a very good voice as well. Getting past them and Trenyce to finish 3rd wasn't easy at all. And KLo's absolutely right when she says on Idol Rewind that she was simply not going to get past Reuben or Clay. They were just too good and/or popular. I don't know of anybody who was watching at the time who thought she had any chance of making the finale. A final comment I can't pass up: I'd love to see a photochop where KLo is wearing a shirt that says 205 lbs. And standing next to her is Reuben, wearing a shirt that says 205 kg.
SurvivorFanGP		#1632	[-]
Posts: 6915 (04/14/08 7:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One final thing - Carly must be one of the nicest people to ever be on this program. She really just comes off as incredibly nice and that makes her more endearing to me, because I'd like to see someone genuinely nice like that make it farther. I totally agree, it just makes me <3 Carly more. She seems like a genuine sweetheart and means well, she unfortunately has a past that makes people look past that. The tattoos and her husband's tattoos probably make shallow people completely ignore her personality and think she's repulsive, which is so dayum stupid. <3 Carly <3
seaguy		#1633	[-]
Posts: 10187 (04/14/08 7:50 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	8trackmind wrote: I think Drew B is really on to something. I stopped reading after that nonsense.
suckshardcore		#1634	[-]
Posts: 13017 (04/14/08 7:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	By the way, I wonder if she reads DialIdol. She seemed certain she was leaving on the results show; you could see her pointing to herself almost every time Ryan mentioned one of them was going home, and she seemed as if she'd already made peace with it or something and was joking about it, KLC-like. I don't think she'd think she was going home last week unless she had read DI. I really don't think the contestants know about or read DialIdol. Carly seems very down on herself and I do think she genuinely thought she was toast this week. As for her tattoo and her husband the more I think about it the less I think it's costing her votes. Perhaps I just have too much faith in humanity but I can't see too many people being so turned off by her tattoos or her husbands tattoos on a reality TV competition that they wouldn't vote for her. Maybe I'm naive though and people are that shallow and it's costing her big time.
suckshardcore		#1635	[-]
Posts: 13022 (04/14/08 8:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So a guy who worked with Carly and helped her get her deal with MCA is speaking out now and blaming Carly's failure on her and saying he dropped her because he knew she'd failed. Idol's Carly 'to blame for first album flop' Source: Evening Herald © 2008 Independent News & Media PLC 14 Apr 2008 Print article \| Email to a friend \| Save article THE MAN behind Dublin American Idol hopeful Carly Smithson's first shot at fame has lambasted the wannabe pop-star for turning her multi-million euro debut single into a flop.LA composer Steve Dorff claimed the Irish sensation refused to accept his advice during her first attempt to climb the charts in the late 1990s. The move forced the respected composer to walk out on the singer over her choice of material - which went against his expert wishes. And as a result, said Dorff, Carly's first album Ultimate High went on to sell a paltry 378 copies in its first three months on the shelves - despite MCA investing millions on a heavy PR campaign. "I thought she was more of a pop singer and better suited to that niche than rock," said Dorff, who is the father of Hollywood actor Steven Dorff. "That was the direction she wanted to go. I didn't feel that was the direction I could serve her." After riding a wave of high-profile support over recent weeks, Dubliner Carly (24) is now the favourite to be booted off American Idol after being slammed by acid-tongued Simon Cowell. CONVINCED And while emphasising that he is convinced the wannabe is still destined for stardom, Dorff says the 'creative differences' behind their own work-split may now come back to haunt her. Dorff recorded a series of demo singles with Carly when she moved to the US aged just 15 in 1999, and was pivotal in helping to seal the big-money MCA record deal. But after continued disputes between the pair, he says he was forced to drop Carly due to concerns about her future career - a conclusion which now looks set to be repeated. "When I first heard her (in the 1990s) I called my manager back and said I wanted to meet her. "I assumed she was 25, 26, but what I found was an absolutely motivated and very cute, young, tiny and bubbly fun kid. "I let her do her thing, but it was not the album I would have made. It just wasn't the right time for her," he said. Having listened to the album this just seems like some bullshit excuse to cover his own ass. The album is very Pop and doesn't sound anything at all like Rock. I'm sure he knows pretty much no one has heard the album so they'll believe this and not recognize that she didn't go in a Rock direction at all with the material on the album. Kind of sounds like a douche bag to me, blaming the failure of a major label album on a 15 year old girl. He could have at least made up a believable excuse. I was ready to read about what Carly did that would make the flop entirely her fault but I didn't buy it as soon as he said he thought she should go in a Pop direction and she went Rock instead.
Riff		#1636	[-]
Posts: 989 (04/14/08 8:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	suckshardcore wrote: I really don't think the contestants know about or read DialIdol. Carly seems very down on herself Well... yeah, she is Irish. Being Irish myself, I'd like to support her, but she just hasn't got it. At all. I have nothing against her as a person. She seems nice, and she's certainly more self-aware than your Alaina Whitakers, your Melinda Liras, your Juanita Barbers, or any other stupid self-entitled bitch who is appalled -- APPALLED -- when America dares to give them the lowest number of votes, but the only consistency in her performances is that they're all forced. People like Babbling Brooke and KKKrusty are knowledgeable of their vocal limitations and use such knowledge to their advantage, selecting songs that suit their voices. Carly is under the mistaken impression that she's Ann Wilson. Therein lies the problem. She's not.
Drew B		#1637	[-]
Posts: 2606 (04/15/08 10:36 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorFanGP wrote: One final thing - Carly must be one of the nicest people to ever be on this program. She really just comes off as incredibly nice and that makes her more endearing to me, because I'd like to see someone genuinely nice like that make it farther. I totally agree, it just makes me <3 Carly more. She seems like a genuine sweetheart and means well, she unfortunately has a past that makes people look past that. The tattoos and her husband's tattoos probably make shallow people completely ignore her personality and think she's repulsive, which is so dayum stupid. <3 Carly <3 I'm confused as to why anybody thinks they KNOW what she's like. She might be nice. She might not be nice. We DON'T KNOW based on a few minutes per week of what she wants us to see. I don't think it's any more shallow to dislike her for tattoos than to like her for [insert whatever reason one has for liking her]. She is presenting a package and we are evaluating that package. The tattoos and the clothing are part of that package. There is nothing wrong with judging her on that basis...
Spud		#1638	[-]
Posts: 715 (04/15/08 11:21 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Carly is under the mistaken impression that she's Ann Wilson. Therein lies the problem. She's not. I think once you get past your hostility, you'll see that she actually does have star potential. She keeps coming into contact with people who recognize it. The problem is that so far nobody's figured out how to hraness that appeal or present her. AI is not doing a great job, so it's reasonable enough to say she's hanging on despite them. (Unless, of course, you subcribe to the "Carly OMG Irish Plant Bitch!!!!111ONE11!!!" theory. The only problem with that theory is that they're nearly all "plants.")
suckshardcore		#1639	[-]
Posts: 13029 (04/15/08 12:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm just going to ignore Drew B's posts about Carly from now on, clearly they're never going to get past their hostility. They're hate is not even light and fun like most other people on this board in regards to who they don't want to see win.
Drew B		#1640	[-]
Posts: 2610 (04/15/08 1:18 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	suckshardcore wrote: I'm just going to ignore Drew B's posts about Carly from now on, clearly they're never going to get past their hostility. They're hate is not even light and fun like most other people on this board in regards to who they don't want to see win. -giggle- There wasn't even anything vaguely hostile in that last post. I said she may be nice or she may not be, but we can't know from seeing what we see. I'll say the exact same about EVERY Idol contestant, including ones I consider to be way more talented than Carly. That's the thing, though. I don't hate Carly. Personally, I'm indifferent to her. I hated Gina -- that looks very different... I just don't think Carly is particularly GOOD, so I resent being told over and over that she is one of the best in this group by the judges and the media. I simply don't agree...

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