Does no one hate that skank Sugar?

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BlondeBrazilianTranny		#81	[-]
Posts: 4 (12/19/08 1:59 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sugar is a sweetheart with the purest of motives who me and my fellow blondes should look up to.
Vyvvi		#82	[-]
Posts: 1483 (12/19/08 11:15 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh yeah she has such pure motives such as orchestrating something to publically humiliate a man on national television, just because she doesn't like him. She's SO innocent.
BlondeBrazilianTranny		#83	[-]
Posts: 13 (12/19/08 11:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Vyyi stop being jealous of Sugar.
SwineForkbeard		#84	[-]
Posts: 2015 (12/19/08 4:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: If you read their interviews, Corinne is way smarter and funnier and more convincing. And a hell of alot more bitter and hostile. I'm not saying Sugar is a Rhodes Scholar by any means, but Bob said she's very bright and was only pretending to be a dumb blonde. Judging from her posts here, Jenna Morasca isn't exactly booksmart either. Any sane person would rather have her as an ally on Survivor (more loyalty, less +#%+!). Absolutely, and I consider that a compliment. I'd rather have Rupert as an ally than Sugar even though I don't care for him as a person. That's not the point. As a guy, you'd have to admit it would be moronic for any guy to have an alliance with Parvati after what we saw last season. They both catfighted and said nasty things, and what I really hate is the BS that Sugar is somehow the nice martyr or morally superior. She's not morally superior, she's an actress who got on a TV show and wanted to win over the audience and succeeded brilliantly. And what did Randy do to Suagr? In interviews, she cites him for trashing-talking at challenges. Big whoop. What did Sugar do to Corinne? At least Sugar was a big enough person to apologize to Randy.
AmightyRo		#85	[-]
Posts: 589 (12/19/08 5:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SwineForkbeard wrote: craig wrote: If you read their interviews, Corinne is way smarter and funnier and more convincing. And a hell of alot more bitter and hostile. I'm not saying Sugar is a Rhodes Scholar by any means, but Bob said she's very bright and was only pretending to be a dumb blonde. Judging from her posts here, Jenna Morasca isn't exactly booksmart either. Any sane person would rather have her as an ally on Survivor (more loyalty, less +#%+!). Absolutely, and I consider that a compliment. I'd rather have Rupert as an ally than Sugar even though I don't care for him as a person. That's not the point. As a guy, you'd have to admit it would be moronic for any guy to have an alliance with Parvati after what we saw last season. They both catfighted and said nasty things, and what I really hate is the BS that Sugar is somehow the nice martyr or morally superior. She's not morally superior, she's an actress who got on a TV show and wanted to win over the audience and succeeded brilliantly. And what did Randy do to Suagr? In interviews, she cites him for trashing-talking at challenges. Big whoop. What did Sugar do to Corinne? At least Sugar was a big enough person to apologize to Randy. The bitch tore up Corinne's bag to make a dress out of it, and then she had the audacity to try and tell Corinne how to act. Until Sug-cunt apologizes to Corinne, Corinne has every right to be superior to Sugar...because, well, she is! Corinne called out Sugar for using her dead father as an excuse to cry, which, ended up being right! Sugar is proclaiming her crying was an act. And Sugar wasn't even homeless like she LIED in her audition video. Corinne called Sug-cunt out on being a fake and phony lying cunt, and, she was right! Therefore, Corinne > Sug-cunt.
SwineForkbeard		#86	[-]
Posts: 2016 (12/19/08 5:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She said the one time she pretended to be sad when she really wasn't was when she got back from exile island so everybody would think she suffered there. She knows, in hindsight, that being emotional over the loss of her father may have helped garner sympathy from other players, but that's no more unethical or exploitative than Jenna telling the jury she needed the money because of her mother's cancer.
AmightyRo		#87	[-]
Posts: 590 (12/19/08 5:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SwineForkbeard wrote: She said the one time she pretended to be sad when she really wasn't was when she got back from exile island so everybody would think she suffered there. She knows, in hindsight, that being emotional over the loss of her father may have helped garner sympathy from other players, but that's no more unethical or exploitative than Jenna telling the jury she needed the money because of her mother's cancer. Wrong, she said ALL her crying was an act, which I don't believe anyway, but she's AGREEING with CORINNE, therefore making CORINNE RIGHT! Point is, Corinne called Sugar out for being a fake cunt and she ended up being right, so there's no point to anyone taking Sug-cunt's side over Corinne when Corinne was right all along. Sug-cunt used her dead father as an excuse to exaggerate her behavior and that's exactly what Corinne called her out on during the FTC. Corinne was right! Corinne > Sug-cunt.
SwineForkbeard		#88	[-]
Posts: 2017 (12/19/08 5:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	When did she say it was all an act? If it was all an act, why did she cry in her confessionals and when she threw the ashes in the river with her sister when nobody else was around? Was her sister faking it too? If Corinne was ever vindicated, she wouldn't have backpedaled at the reunion and insincerely mutter "I sympathize with her loss or whatever."
WylDawg		#89	[-]
Posts: 17006 (12/19/08 5:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is it okay to hate both Sugar and Corinne? Because it seems that there's this unwritten rule on Sucks that you have to pick sides.
AmightyRo		#90	[-]
Posts: 591 (12/19/08 5:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SwineForkbeard wrote: When did she say it was all an act? If it was all an act, why did she cry in her confessionals and when she threw the ashes in the river with her sister when nobody else was around? Was her sister faking it too? If Corinne was ever vindicated, she wouldn't have backpedaled at the reunion and insincerely mutter "I sympathize with her loss or whatever." It's in one of her latest interviews where she stated it was all an act. AGAIN...I said I don't necessarily believe it was all an act because she sucks too bad at anything. However, she's pretty much backing up what Corinne said about her being a phony when Corinne said she came off as insincere when she cried so much over her dead father. Even if Sugar is telling the truth in which it was all an act, there could still be moments where her crying was real (i.e. the spreading of the ashes). HOWEVER, she's backing up Corinne. Why? Because CORINNE > Sug-cunt !
SwineForkbeard		#91	[-]
Posts: 2018 (12/19/08 5:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Finally, at the start of our brief conversation, Sugar told me, "hey, you got some things wrong, mister," saying that in my initial interview with her, I misidentified the "enlightened rich guy" as Matty when she meant Ace. And referring to my skepticism about her crying, she said, "you didn't buy it. You weren't buying it, but look, it worked, didn't it?" You mean this? Where she told him he got some things wrong? That means he was wrong when he thought she was putting on an act. I read that as "You may have thought I was faking it, but the people that mattered knew I wasn't." If this is all you've got, keep grasping at those straws.
AmightyRo		#92	[-]
Posts: 592 (12/19/08 5:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SwineForkbeard wrote: Finally, at the start of our brief conversation, Sugar told me, "hey, you got some things wrong, mister," saying that in my initial interview with her, I misidentified the "enlightened rich guy" as Matty when she meant Ace. And referring to my skepticism about her crying, she said, "you didn't buy it. You weren't buying it, but look, it worked, didn't it?" You mean this? Where she told him he got some things wrong? That means he was wrong when he thought she was putting on an act. I read that as "You may have thought I was faking it, but the people that mattered knew I wasn't." If this is all you've got, keep grasping at those straws. Nope, not that one, but there ya go! She basically just said "Yeah, YOU may have not been buying it, but the others did! ~teehee, I'm such a good actress, that's why I got the best contract out of all of 'em!~ CORINNE > Sug-cunt.
SwineForkbeard		#93	[-]
Posts: 2019 (12/19/08 6:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: Is it okay to hate both Sugar and Corinne? Because it seems that there's this unwritten rule on Sucks that you have to pick sides. The proxy war between their fans here is rather pointless, I'll admit. Sugar has millions of adoring fans and was the star of this season, so she really needs no defending. And since Corinne only wants attention whether it's positive or negative, her fans accomplish nothing by defending her either.
Seaking		#94	[-]
Posts: 3 (12/19/08 7:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SUGAR FUCK YEAH!!!
chilibmom		#95	[-]
Posts: 573 (12/19/08 7:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I hate Corrine and while I do not love Sugar (like in a blind obsessive way), I loved the way she played in this season. It was so entertaining. It was amazing to watch her.
aboutbreakingrules		#96	[-]
Posts: 442 (12/19/08 7:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	token lunatic wrote: Don't apply. Stay gold, Ponyboy. This is a message all Sucksters, newbies and veterans alike, ought to heed. Once you've appeared on Survivor, you become their property. And I don't think Sugar has a problem with being just that.
gab500		#97	[-]
Posts: 1056 (12/19/08 11:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AmightyRo wrote: SwineForkbeard wrote: Finally, at the start of our brief conversation, Sugar told me, "hey, you got some things wrong, mister," saying that in my initial interview with her, I misidentified the "enlightened rich guy" as Matty when she meant Ace. And referring to my skepticism about her crying, she said, "you didn't buy it. You weren't buying it, but look, it worked, didn't it?" You mean this? Where she told him he got some things wrong? That means he was wrong when he thought she was putting on an act. I read that as "You may have thought I was faking it, but the people that mattered knew I wasn't." If this is all you've got, keep grasping at those straws. Nope, not that one, but there ya go! She basically just said "Yeah, YOU may have not been buying it, but the others did! ~teehee, I'm such a good actress, that's why I got the best contract out of all of 'em!~ CORINNE > Sug-cunt. I have to admit, I hated the way Corinne treated Sugar and wanted to believe that Sugar really was sincere and very emotional out there. But I've gotta agree with AmightyRo here. This part of the interview is the key: "You weren't buying it, but look, it worked, didn't it?" To me, this means it worked in getting others in the game to believe she really was this emotional, frail little dumb blonde type that didn't understand the game and was playing with her heart, not her head; in hiding/obscuring the true level of her scheming and gameplay; in manipulating others and controlling the direction of the game; in getting her to FTC; and in showing off her acting skills and ability to entertain viewers. I think it also "worked" in that she was able to initially "fool" viewers as well, and then win them over, as we saw her each week seem to defy her persona by outstrategizing everyone else and making bold move after bold move to pick off players and control the game. If she had meant "You may have thought I was faking it, but the people that mattered knew I wasn't" as SwineForkbeard suggests, she wouldn't have said "it worked" because this clearly implies she's proud of herself for successfully fooling everyone. No need to "work" anything on the people who know you and really matter to you. How much of this reveal may be true and how much is revisionist BS on her part I guess we'll never know. I do believe she really was emotional out there over her father's death. But I also think she DID play up the crying and sadness to her advantage, which to some extent does vindicate Corinne. As I'm hearing more and more revealed in her postgame interviews, I'm wondering if ANYTHING we saw of Sugar out there was real, or if she was a totally fabricated character planted by CBS and meant to stir up the game with her bold, totally unpredictable (and often illogical) gameplay. I'm also starting to believe that she may have really had this big negative side out there that turned off so many of the others (and that numerous contestants have talked about) - and that CBS totally hid this from us in the editing to maintain her as a sweet, endearing, positive underdog character who defied the odds and made it to the end. Last Edited By: gab500 12/19/08 11:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
SwineForkbeard		#98	[-]
Posts: 2021 (12/20/08 2:45 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jessica has been frank about how "Sugar" was a manufactured persona designed to conceal the fact that she's intelligent and has a good read on people. This is Survivor, people, a game about subterfuge and deceit. If you parse what Corinne actually said (after watching again, it looked like they may have chopped it up in the editing room, so we may never know the exact context), she wasn't questioning the ditzy persona. If she was, what would be the point of giving her antidepressants? That implies that she believed the emo instability and constant crying were real. Corinne has never suggested she ever believed otherwise in any interview or at the reunion. She has only said that Sugar was annoying and that is the sole catalyst of her obsessive, blinding hatred. Yeah, right. What Corinne was questioning was the depth and sincerity of Sugar's grief over her father, which Sugar has never given us any reason to doubt unless you're cynical and biased and either haven't lost a parent or don't love the ones you have. Unless you think her sister was her Thunder D who co-conspired to stage that tribute with the ashes just to play the audience for suckers, then I think it's clear that she really was devastated over her father's death and that was one thing she wasn't faking. That's what made it such a low blow. Corinne knew that was where Sugar was most vulnerable, and would make people like us want to talk about her just because she was willing to say something that flew in the face of common decency. Personally, I don't think Corinne ever gave a moment's thought as to whether Sugar might be exaggerating her bereavement, because she said herself that she has no moral compass and had no reason to care. She was bragging about her "dead father" snipe to us in her interviews before the finale, when by that time she knew perfectly well that Sugar's father really was dead and had seen Sugar cry about it when nobody else was around. She obviously had no care or concern for Sugar as a person, so it really wasn't her place to bring up something so personal and make it her business just so she could use it as a weapon. I could understand people being suspicious of Randy crying over a dog that died five years ago, but they'd still look like assholes just by going there. Long story short: the reason that so many people love Sugar has alot to do with Corinne and her inability to get over her jealousy of her. In a way, Sugar should be grateful to her.
AmightyRo		#99	[-]
Posts: 596 (12/20/08 3:31 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SwineForkbeard wrote: Jessica has been frank about how "Sugar" was a manufactured persona designed to conceal the fact that she's intelligent and has a good read on people. This is Survivor, people, a game about subterfuge and deceit. If you parse what Corinne actually said (after watching again, it looked like they may have chopped it up in the editing room, so we may never know the exact context), she wasn't questioning the ditzy persona. If she was, what would be the point of giving her antidepressants? That implies that she believed the emo instability and constant crying were real. Corinne has never suggested she ever believed otherwise in any interview or at the reunion. She has only said that Sugar was annoying and that is the sole catalyst of her obsessive, blinding hatred. Yeah, right. What Corinne was questioning was the depth and sincerity of Sugar's grief over her father, which Sugar has never given us any reason to doubt unless you're cynical and biased and either haven't lost a parent or don't love the ones you have. Unless you think her sister was her Thunder D who co-conspired to stage that tribute with the ashes just to play the audience for suckers, then I think it's clear that she really was devastated over her father's death and that was one thing she wasn't faking. That's what made it such a low blow. Corinne knew that was where Sugar was most vulnerable, and would make people like us want to talk about her just because she was willing to say something that flew in the face of common decency. Personally, I don't think Corinne ever gave a moment's thought as to whether Sugar might be exaggerating her bereavement, because she said herself that she has no moral compass and had no reason to care. She was bragging about her "dead father" snipe to us in her interviews before the finale, when by that time she knew perfectly well that Sugar's father really was dead and had seen Sugar cry about it when nobody else was around. She obviously had no care or concern for Sugar as a person, so it really wasn't her place to bring up something so personal and make it her business just so she could use it as a weapon. I could understand people being suspicious of Randy crying over a dog that died five years ago, but they'd still look like assholes just by going there. Long story short: the reason that so many people love Sugar has alot to do with Corinne and her inability to get over her jealousy of her. In a way, Sugar should be grateful to her. First of all, to be fair, none of us (even me, who is perfect and knows everything), know exactly what was really going on in any of their heads. We can only guess. My point is that Corinne shot down Sugar about obsessively crying to the point where it seemed insincere, associating that apparent insincere crying with her dead father and using that as an excuse to be seen as a weak, unstable young pin-up. My guess is Corinne made the anti-depressant comment as a way to reflect how constant Sugar's crying was. Sugar HAS given us reason to doubt her sincerity regarding her crying over her father. She has made it quite clear that she's proud of her acting "performance", and even from your little interview excerpt she pats herself on the back about fooling the others with her crying. THAT is what Corinne called Sugar out on--the sincerity of her t. ears which Sugar associated with her dead father--and thus being a big phony. Sugar is backing up everything Corinne called her out on with her interviews patting herself on the back of an acting job well done, which proudly earned her a contract. According to Sugar, she played to win over America and made her moves in the game to paint herself into a character that would earn her an acting contract. Corinne called Sugar out on her t.ears for her father being insincere; Sugar stated multiple times her t. ears were an act. Hmmm, I guess that means she was insincere! Thus, what Corinne said has relevence, and therefore: Corinne > Sug-cunt. Last Edited By: AmightyRo 12/20/08 3:34 AM. Edited 1 times.
SwineForkbeard		#100	[-]
Posts: 2022 (12/20/08 4:44 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	even me, who is perfect and knows everything I was actually going to post a rebuttal until I noticed this. At first I wasn't sure whether or not I should even take you seriously, but now I am.

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