Spanky Hot Dog wrote:
Fairplay, can you explain this thread please?
http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/44266
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Nogales |
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WylDawg wrote:I don't have to paint you as anything. You do the job yourself. You worship white men the most like Brian, Tom, Terry, and Jonathan and then say you're the only one who's objective. You hate the race seasons the most. You always has a criticism for minorities who succeeded like Sandra. In any comparison between a white person and a minority, you can bet you will side with the white guy like Tom and Terry versus Ozzy. The producers brought back Ozzy and not those guys (Tom of course chickened out), because he was the best. Ozzy competed against a bunch of athletes, while look at the people Tom and Terry were competing against. Tom especially. Tom went up against a bunch of kids and old people, and the opposing tribe was Ulong. Ulong for heaven sakes! He had a shelter advantage, 1 of the strongest guys rolled his ankle and quit, and that left a bunch of weak nobodies left except for Ian. Ian is probably a weaker version of Erik and Jason. At best, Tom is a weak China James, but James would beat Tom any day in just about any event (except swimming) I do think Terry is 1 of the best athletes though, and I would've loved to see him on Micronesia. Tom is only good at challenges for the same reason people thought Colby or Lex were super threats. It's because they were competing against a bunch of weak people. Put them with others, and they all got pwned by a nobody like Rob who came from 1 of the biggest losing tribes in Survivor history |
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Nogales wrote: I completely agree with myself when I say you're a fucking idiot pulling things out of a hat. Tom's only non-competition from the final 9 is Janu, Caryn and Katie Terry's was Cirie, Shane and maybe Bruce and Ozzy's in Cooks was Sundra, Nate and maybe Becky as for his competition in Micro Cirie, Alexis and Natalie were not that great (neither was Parv that season for that matter) Ozzy, Terry and Tom were all asshole Alpha-Males regardless of race..some people like all three of them, some people hate all three of them and some people liked some and hated some..it's all opinion.
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SurvivorNinja wrote:Oh yeah. How could I forget the incredible challenge threat that Jenn posed? Ozzy dominated both his seasons against some of the best athletes ever. He's proved himself. Terry is a question mark, although I think he'd do well although I don't know if he'd dominate when there are people like James or Ozzy in it instead of Aras and Shane. Tom though, I'm confident is only as good as a normal alpha male like Brady, Jamie, Aras, Nate, etc. He dominated because Ulong was the worst tribe in Survivor history, got a huge shelter advantage the way Chapera did on ASS, and then happened to be the best of an average 9. Stephenie was the only strong female threat and she was only average on Guatemala. Ian, Gregg, and Coby were his only physical threats, but Coby jumped off his perch in the endurance challenge. Ian and Gregg were strong, but were just normal alpha males, and there were a lot more of those on Exile Island and Cook Islands |
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chapera rocks |
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Ozzy was good at challenges. But he was a fucking dumbass.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Nogales wrote: How about it being a coincidental? |
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WylDawg |
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You worship white men the most like Brian, Tom, Terry, and Jonathan Also Earl, James, Bob Dawg and YauMan which I've mentionned several times. You hate the race seasons the most. CI and Fiji? I think the general concensus is that those seasons were boring as hell and overbloated with mactors who never heard of the show. And I was thrilled with Yul and Earl's respective wins, which I always said was the one saving grace for both those seasons. You always has a criticism for minorities who succeeded like Sandra Sandra is one of my favo Survivor castaways ever. She is one of the coolest ladies I have ever had the pleasure to meet in real life. Her win was a total fluke though, I seperate my personal feelings for someone and the way they played the game. Tom went up against a bunch of kids and old people, and the opposing tribe was Ulong. Ulong for heaven sakes! If you take a look back at Palau. Ulong originally boasted abput how they were the strongest tribe physically and Koror was worried because they had older/weaker people. Tom kicked their asses, mostly Bobby Jon, an alpha-male half his age. And within his own tribe Tom had serious competition with Gregg and Ian and owned them both too. I would say that's pretty respectable for an old guy. Ozzy was up against Parvati, Yul, Becky, Sundra and Adam. All LA people who probably never set foot out of bars and clubs and are afraid of breaking a nail. Nonetheless he did own them and I admit it. |
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Katy Carney |
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This thread went in a really different direction.
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WylDawg |
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It's Fairplay's fault.
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5urvivor |
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WylDawg wrote: I have to agree that there was a big difference between Ozzy's competition and Tom's. You compared Palau's strongest merge competitors to Cook Island's weakest Wyldawg, and that match-up is still really even. Bobby Jon has never proven himself to be a strong challenger. I think people just thought he was because he's a young guy and worked hard, but his track record is littered with losses and he's never won individual immunity once in 2 seasons. Tom's biggest physical competitors would be Jeff and Ian, but they both quit. It's a mistake to stereotype people from LA and making them out to be spoiled mactors would apply much more to Ulong. I would like to see Tom, Terry, Ozzy, and James all compete in 1 season though if they ever do All Stars 2 |
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Nogales |
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WylDawg wrote: You may like them, but that doesn't mean you respect them or have glass ceilings. You obviously couldn't stand casts that were ethnic minority dominated, yet don't criticize the Palau mactor cast. Not a surprise that Boo was 1 of your favorites on Fiji. You say you separate feelings from logic, but your comparison of the physical competitors is laughably shallow and skewed to support your original opinion. There is little to no logic supporting it |
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You may like them, but that doesn't mean you respect them or have glass ceilings. You obviously couldn't stand casts that were ethnic minority dominated, yet don't criticize the Palau mactor cast. Not a surprise that Boo was 1 of your favorites on Fiji. You say you separate feelings from logic, but your comparison of the physical competitors is laughably shallow and skewed to support your original opinion. There is little to no logic supporting itIf it makes you feel any better, I fucking despised Cook Islands and Fiji, but Palau is my least favorite season. All three were shitty edited seasons because of the bloated casts full of mactors. I'd say the same about Micronesia. Although there were at least a couple good blindsides, almost no character development was given to the castaways who weren't considered the "main ones". |
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Micronesia Princess |
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Micronesia is the best season and it's pathetic to see a bunch of ghosties try to tear it down to prop up their favorite seasons
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Micronesia Princess wrote: I know. Why do ghosties like me try to tear down such a great season. It's not like half the cast was ignored to give air time to the favorites or anything. |
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People are ignored every season and Micronesia was not remarkable in this way
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Micronesia Princess wrote: It's not the best season. Almost half of the cast (ehem fans) was ignored. |
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^ Maybe half the "fans" were ignored because they were not actually fans, as we have since found out, and giving them more air time would have showed that?I'm not saying that Lex was blameless, or anything of the sort. I'm saying that Rob was an absolute dickhead in how he treated his "friend". You say Lex crossed the line first? How exactly? And before you answer, think back - I'm referring to stooping to the lowest of the low in treating your friends by what you say about them. I didn't see Lex refer to Rob or anyone else as a dumbass, or call his other "friend's" son names on international TV. That was more "morally objectionable" and malicious than anything Lex or Tom did to him. Rob was the ungracious one here - he could have done everything he did, without the snide and rude comments. And if he had done it like that, he may well have actually won - but we'll never know. And one more thing - you say in an alliance of Lex, Tom, Kathy and Rob, that Rob would have "no chance of winning" and would have to "graciously accept 4th place". How the fuck do you know what would have happened in that scenario? Fact: you, and the rest of us, have absolutely no way of knowing how he would have done, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. In fact, the chances are he could well have come out on top and won it all, because of his age and fitness, but again, we'll never know. Maybe since ASS Rob has matured, I hope so, and I hope for his sake that he now treats his friends with respect, cause that's something we did not see from him. |
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Micronesia Princess |
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spyzsrvvrcharmd wrote:A recycled criticism said by the same people who all happen to have the same exact opinions |
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Micronesia Princess wrote: Except for the fact that it's true... Go back and watch some of the earlier seasons that are considered "good." Everyone in Marquesas, Amazon, and PEARL (typing fail) Islands gets significant character development, even the ones who are gone early or are mostly irrelevant to how the game plays out.
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I'm not going to argue with a ghostie
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