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Posts: 14255 (02/14/09 12:48 PM) AI Forum Moderator |
Mikester wrote:What point? That he may not speak to her after the cameras stop rolling and they all go on their way? SO WHAT? I'm sure lots of them don't talk to each other after the show ends, for whatever reason. They are ALL camera whores, they are on THE REAL WORLD! 
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cindidindi76 |
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Posts: 15404 (02/14/09 12:53 PM) Registered User |
Shut up seaguy!!! Ryan is just a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad person!!!!!!!!!! He's horrible! And probably a sinner too!!!
Why were the guys so adamant in wanting Katelynn to come out to them?? If they know, then they shouldn't care. So they could talk about it and stop pretending they don't know. |
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The Smoking Nun |
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Posts: 2271 (02/14/09 12:53 PM) |
seaguy wrote:You are making just as many assumptions as we are. You think most people would act worse, and we are essentially agreeing with you and saying his being nice to her probably wasn't sincere. And so what if his reaction was typical or it could've been worse. That doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it polite. |
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Posts: 1066 (02/14/09 12:55 PM) |
seaguy wrote:My point was about his whole spiel being for the cameras. That's it. I don't think he's nearly as open minded or accepting as he appears on the show. Relax. I'm not saying Ryan would be a terrible douchebag if he didn't keep in touch with Katelynn, I'm just saying I don't think it's likely that he would have experienced this "open mindedness" if he hadn't been on THE REAL WORLD.
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The Smoking Nun |
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Posts: 2272 (02/14/09 12:57 PM) |
Mikester wrote:Yep. |
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seaguy |
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Posts: 14256 (02/14/09 1:06 PM) AI Forum Moderator |
You could possibly be correct. But it's your assumption. I am going by what I see and he seemed to be fine with it once the initially uncomfortableness was
done. He could end up being a jerk about it later on in the show, but so far he's fine.
And yes, I do make a big assumption about peoples reactions because I don't think most people would be comfortable with hearing about gender reassignment, let alone being friends with one who has gone through it. Hell,many people still can't deal with seeing two men kiss without saying "Ewwww". Maybe you have more faith in people. |
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The Smoking Nun |
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Posts: 2273 (02/14/09 1:07 PM) |
Mikester wrote:I agree. Also, he probably wouldn't have much in common with her even if she had been born with female genitals. I don't think I would want to hang out with her, and I like trannys. Her attention-whoring is very strange, I can't relate to it at all. But in all fairness, I wouldn't want to hang out with any of them, although I do think Chet is amusing. |
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Carboys Desire |
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Posts: 4771 (02/14/09 1:12 PM) Registered user |
Oh well there is a shocker----a reality tv star that is a camera whore! How very perceptive of you. You should come around more often.
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The Smoking Nun |
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Posts: 2274 (02/14/09 1:23 PM) |
seaguy wrote:No, I don't have much faith in people at all. I think most people are assholes. But that doesn't mean I think assholes shouldn't be called out for their shitty behavior. ' Whether Ryan is sincere or not, his seeming acceptance of her is ultimately a good thing. This silly show has had a lot of influence on kids over the years and a message of tolerance for transgendered people is a positive one. |
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The Smoking Nun |
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Posts: 2275 (02/14/09 1:26 PM) |
Carboys Desire wrote:Why are you being such a snot? We're just speculating about the idiots on the fucking Real World. Why is it so personal to you? |
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Mikester |
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Posts: 1070 (02/14/09 1:49 PM) |
Carboys Desire wrote:If it's so obvious, why are you fighting me on it? He's playing it up for the cameras, that was my point the whole time. You're the one who... argued it. Make up your mind.
And ty! I think I will, you seem so fun <3 |
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cindidindi76 |
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Posts: 15411 (02/14/09 1:54 PM) Registered User |
Whether Ryan is sincere or not, his seeming acceptance of her is ultimately a good thing. This silly show has had a lot of influence on kids over the years and a message of tolerance for transgendered people is a positive one. Agreed. |
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chad6 |
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Posts: 2720 (02/14/09 2:24 PM) Registered user |
Does it really have that much influence? How many people even watch it? How many "kids" even watch it?
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Carboys Desire |
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Posts: 4772 (02/14/09 2:28 PM) Registered user |
Mikester wrote: Being a camera whore is acceptable. Being a bigot is a whole other story, which is what y'all were accusing him of being. Was it not you? Was it the Smoking Nun? Lemme check. |
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Carboys Desire |
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Posts: 4773 (02/14/09 2:32 PM) Registered user |
Mikester wrote: OK, so the Smoking Nun alluded to him being a bigot and you as much labeled him a close-minded asshole, which is pretty much the same thing in my book. So don't get all innocent and pretend you only called him a camera whore because that is isn't the case, and that was not your point "the whole time." My point is that he is not being a bigot nor a close-minded asshole for the reasons stated up above by me and by Seagay. I apologize if you think I was getting personal. Perhaps I was harsh, but calling the kid a bigot is also harsh. |
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Mikester |
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Posts: 1071 (02/14/09 3:29 PM) |
Carboys Desire wrote:I'm not acting innocent and I don't think you're taking it personally, I do think you're reading too much into a personal opinion and turning it into something it's not. My point, yes, the whole time, was that he was playing it up for the cameras. I never said he was a bigot, I'm only saying that he overplayed the whole "getting to know Katelynn" conversation for the cameras because if he didn't appear to be at least friendly, he would look like a bigot. And he would. If I wanted to say Ryan is a bigot, then I would. And he probably is. But my intention was to point out that he is fake for the cameras. That's all.
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Posts: 3471 (02/14/09 4:37 PM) Registered User |
According to the aftershow Katelynn does have a relationship with the boys and they do hang out, but when she's with Devyn and Sarah they become annoying
little monsters.
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Posts: 2184 (02/14/09 7:14 PM) |
One of the recent dailes has ryan admitting to baya that if Kaitlyn was an asshole he would make fun of her and be mean to her about being transgendered. But since shes cool hes nice to her and calls her a her. He said as far as hes concerned shes still a guy. |
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Posts: 486 (02/14/09 7:52 PM) Registered user |
Then it proves my point.YES! YES! YES! |
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chad6 |
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Posts: 2731 (02/14/09 8:48 PM) Registered user |
mtj1282 wrote:Did he really say this? If its true, everyone that was trying to defend him will have a pretty hard time trying to defend this. |
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