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birdlady

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(12/07/08 1:44 PM)

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That was a weird statement from Crystal. I was thinking she just tripped up her words a little. Shouldn't it have been that her brain was telling her to boot Matty, that mean Corinne was no threat? But her heart said she should go first?

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(12/07/08 2:19 PM)

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Since sugar is wearing her HII to TC, I'm thinking the safest bet is she is trying to convince people she is going to play it so don't vote for her. After everyone has voted, she openly takes it off and hands it to whomever. (i think Bob) Since they know she's wearing it, there's no need to sneakily pass it to anyone. If they see her without it, they'll know she passed it. Besides, votes are cast. No going back now.

Wouldn't this be fun...Bob wins the Holiday Wreath and Sugar wears the HII. Bob gives up the Wreath to Kenny, (which will make kenny happy and so Kenny can take out Bob, or so he thinks). After votes are cast, Sugar gives her HII to Bob, chastizing Kenny for guilting Bob into doing it. All votes for Bob are thrown out. Bob & Sugar vote out Suzie. 2 to 0 (votes for Bob).

At first I thought they'd vote for Matty but since Sugar will be drawing the line in the sand so to speak, with Kenny & Crystal and Kenny will be safe with the Wreath, that leaves Matty or Suzie. Without Matty, Sugar won't have Suzie, who will go with Kenny & Crystal, leaving Sugar & Bob outnumbered. BUT, taking out Suzie, Matty will stick with Sugar (and Bob) leaving them with the numbers.

Of course, this all hinges on Bob winning the Wreath and giving it to Kenny. Which i can't see him doing no matter how nice of a guy he is. But i can't see any other use of the HII at TC other than protecting Bob, which would mean Bob needed to be sans Wreath.

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Remember the Coen brothers' movie "A Simple Plan"? Simple plans can go terribly wrong.

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I feel strongly (but without any inside spoiler info.. just gut feeling..) that neither Bob nor Sugar will give up real immunity to anyone else. Sugar is going to take that idol to her grave, if she can. Bob might give the FHII2 to someone , but not the Immunity Wreath, if he wins it. If Sugar saves anyone other then herself, I'll eat my hat.

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As already stated (and I clarified it in Spoilers) they are not VG's guesses
and I still got the hinky's - while I don't believe (though it'd be nice) that Bob makes it to the finals at this time, I do think Jeff's comments about Bob that he made are enough that this "strong" fivesome gets broken and Bob edges out at least one of them.

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When looking at the final five in the future challenges I thought it was Crystal, Bob, Kenny, Sugar, Matty in the lineup. Bob can only be there by winning immunity. Crystal has already said that her final three pact is with Kenny and Sugar. Sugar did say that she thinks Crystal is a bully and Kenny thinks he's the bees knees but then again that would bode well for Susie in the final three if nobody sees anything bad in her, so why wouldn't Sugar want to get rid of her? I don't think it's that big of a leap that Susie gets voted out of Bob does win the next IC.

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(12/08/08 1:27 PM)

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I think these guys must be the majestic inhabitants. I think that whole hippo thing was just preseason hype...

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Press release:

After an unsuccessful blindside, a power hungry castaway scrambles to secure an alliance, and a stunning reward provides A rare Glimpse of Gabon and its majestic inhabitants, ON "SURVIVOR GABON - EARTH'S LAST EDEN," THURSDAY, DEC. 11

"The Good Guys Should Win In The End" - After using guilt to gain control of an ally, a pushy castaway may land in hot water when the hidden immunity idol is put into play, resulting in a shocking turn of events at Tribal Council, on SURVIVOR: GABON - EARTH'S LAST EDEN, Thursday, Dec. 11 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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I don't think those clues are talking about the same person. Kenny is the one scrambling obviously and Matty is the one using guilt to try to control Ken maybe. Bob isn't exactly Ken's ally especially after what just happened.

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Thanks anywho. So the HII is for surely put into play this week. This should be fun.

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(12/08/08 3:04 PM)

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and it sounds like the HII play is directly linked to the pushy player's potential status in the game.

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I'm guessing our "pushy castaway" is Matty- doing his same annoying "I WANT X OUT" routine.

Bob wins immunity, gives it to Ken, they vote, then Sugar immunizes Bob with the HII, knocking Matty out?

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(12/08/08 4:37 PM)

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Well Sugar also said in the promo that Crystal is a big bully

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But isn't that the way Susie describes her in a secret scene so maybe Sugar is just telling us what Susie said when trying to convince her to boot Kenny or Crystal. Not that it means anything considering where it is coming from but Corrine has said Crystal and Sugar are joined at the hip. Why would Sugar be joined at the hip to a bully? She seems to hate that type of negative person.

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After Bob wins IN there would be a scramble. I don't think Bob passes his IN, but would give up his fake Hidden Idol.

The preview makes Kenny appear to be the pushy guy who also tries to use guilt on Bob. I think they are connected. I'm guessing whoever the secondary target is may get the HI. Sugar says to someone they will be safe. It looks to be Matty, but it could just as easily be Kenny or Crystal...Sugar seems closer to them IMO. Somehow I think Matty goes after Kenny survives a scare.

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I think Ken is the pushy person as well - but like most clues when it says "may" it usually doesn't happen
Regardless that the HII spin is intended to possibly land him in hot water (it says "may" which is usually code for bullshit)
Plan goes array either by design or someone pulls a switcharoo and someone unexpected ends up going.

They originally had the two items separate - pushy player MAY end up in hot water
Simple plan for HII shocking turn of events
Only difference now is that they are acting like this play MAY cause the pushy player to end up in hot water (whether or not this person IS the person meant to leave at the hands of the HII)
Doesn't matter - someone else leaves and we all know with an HII, it could merely be solely because of one stray vote.

After using guilt to gain control of an ally, a pushy castaway may land in hot water when the hidden immunity idol is put into play, resulting in a shocking turn of events at Tribal Council.

NEXT TIME ON SURVIVOR

One castaway finds himself scrambling to secure an alliance, having attempted unsuccessfully to blindside one of his allies.
A stunning reward allows some castaways a rare glimpse of Gabon and it's [sic] most majestic inhabitants.
A power hungry castaway uses guilt to gain to control of an ally, but his pushy demands may land him in hot water.
A simple plan is hatched to put the hidden immunity idol into play, resulting in a shocking turn of events at Tribal Council.

Orangeena

IF Sugar does play the idol...

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(12/08/08 11:13 PM)

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If Sugar DOES play the idol, and she is not the target of the majority of votes...does it even matter? SHE would be immune, but suppose nobody voted for her? It wouldn't affect the outcome of the votes in any way UNLESS somebody voted for her? Then the vote or votes are discounted. But if she wasn't the major vote getter, does it count?

I guess Sugar playing it at all could be considered "Shocking"...

Corrine practically SPELLS IT OUT on RNO that Sugar makes the Final 3, and BOY! Is she still angry at her!!!!

A Confused Orange...

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Yes Orange, I read those interviews, and Corrine and Randy both implied that at the final tribal they get to let loose. Thursday will be good, but Sunday has a chance to be great!!

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