Kure Kure Takora!!!
(Gimme Gimme Octopus, Episode 1!)
In this Episode, our Cephalopod Hero tries to win over the heart of, Monro, the Pink Walrus Dragon Lady Thing.
But at what COST???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSozwHahauc
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クレクレタコラ!!!
Kure Kure Takora!!! (Gimme Gimme Octopus, Episode 1!) In this Episode, our Cephalopod Hero tries to win over the heart of, Monro, the Pink Walrus Dragon Lady Thing. But at what COST??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSozwHahauc |
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Does this go here? Oh well.
Moved to riddle thread
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Don't really know where to put this...but it's the end of her story arc. BITCH from Begining to end.
ok after watching Corrine's ponderosa videos, I have one comment about her........ BITCH! OMG. She is truely a piece of work. Saying how she can't wait to back among the popular good looking people, and away from the geeky unattractive ones. She is soooo immiture, she compared it HS etc ... shallow simple minded little girl. I really was hoping she would get a clue about LIFE, etc... but no. Also she then BITCHES and complains about how horrible AFRICIA is and that it has NO redeeming qualities etc... because she can't bl;ow dry her hair etc... She is such a spolied rotten little girl. APPRICIATE where you are and the majesty of what you are seeing. She may be a pretty looking girl but she is one of the ugliest people I have ever seen. Makes Jenna M look like a saint! |
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At least Jenna M. came out of her appearance and learned something about herself and grew from it. Corinne is still the same rotten bitch that she was when she
started.
Did you see her comment about a Mexican sugar farm missing a migrant worker, when in reference to Susie? Ick! |
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I'm not surprised that Corrine is making racist comments in her post-show interviews.
This is the woman who bragged in her pre-show interviews about selling drugs that she knew were dangerous. From Reality Blurred: At one point, Corinne insisted, "I have no moral compass." The most damning illustration has to do with her (now former) job as a pharmaceutical sales rep, where she said she knowingly sold drugs to physicicans that she knew would kill people. "Selling drugs is a lie. I sold drugs that I knew damn well-I sold Vioxx for Merck before it got taken off the market for killing people. I knew damn well it was dangerous; I went around telling them to write it. There's a lot of serious lying I've done in my life," she said. Yeah, she's a real class act alright. I know Survivor isn't about who is deserving and who isn't (Richard Hatch and Brian Heidik aren't exactly saints). But if Corrine got anywhere near the million dollars I honestly would have been so disgusted that I'm not sure if I could keep watching the show. Oh, who am I kidding, I'd keep watching the show. But I would be really annoyed. :)
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Ken proved that he's more a reactive strategist. He disrupted his smooth sail toward F3 for no more than an illusion of a better jury vote. Now, Kenny
the gamer may not have another chance to reach the next level.
He bought a ridiculous story, made a foolish vote, woke up Matty and brought him back into reality and jeopardized his whole game. Bad move. |
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Man, Corinne is an ugly, hateful, immoral person. I thought she was just spoiled and immature, but she has no ethics whatsoever, and actually seems proud of
her lack of any redeeming qualities. I'm glad she's gone.
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Me too.
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BOB: In order to win, he has to win every single immunity challenge (or manage to convince somebody to do something really, really stupid and keep him in). Neither is impossible, but it's not looking likely. He probably has the jury in his pocket provided he can explain away why he gave the fake idol to Randy.
MATTY: In order to win, he needs to not be taken out before the final and needs to not face Bob. He will almost certainly win if he makes it to the end, because with jurors that are going to be as vindictive and vitriolic as Randy and Corinne are going to be, not having any blood on your hands and not having any jurors actively hating you is going to be a major advantage, because I think that, even though I'm not convinced Matty is that strong of a player, the fact that nobody hates him makes him a huge, HUGE threat in the endgame. And if he gets his chosen F3 of himself, Susie, and Sugar, he wins unanimously for showing up… even less suspense than the Earl/Dreamz/Cassandra finale of a few years ago. If he has to face one of Crystal or Kenny, he'll win easily, but probably not unanimously.
KENNY: He's our decoy winner, but I feel like the editing these past few episodes has been "How Kenny, the mastermind, blew it completely." It's not unlike the edits Rafe and Cesternino received. I think that, even though he has Corinne potentially in his pocket, he's not going to be as loved by the jury as he wants to believe. Or, alternately, we could be getting set up for a Crystal upset of Kenny or a Matty immunity run that ends in him having to face the one player he has no chance in hell against. I think the little side deal with Bob and Corinne might help with the jury but conversely will hurt his chances of even having the opportunity to face the jury.
CRYSTAL: How can she win? Simple. Sugar and Susie need to be smart enough to know who their best chance is in the final three, because, let's face it, they need all the help they can get. They take Matty, and in all likelihood, he sweeps the votes. They take Kenny, and he can outtalk them and wins by a lot. But Crystal has a temper… best case scenario for her is for Kenny to be voted off by the other three at F5, and then team up with the girls to take Matty out. Sticking with Kenny, she probably won't win… he's a weasel, but she can be kind of a bitch at times and is brutally honest. At the same time, though, up against Susie and Sugar, she's quite easily going to be the least of three evils amongst the opinions of those Onion folks, probably even Randy, and she's played a heckuva game. Up against Kenny, I kind of suspect she might be close to having enough votes to beat him but I'm not that confident she can outtalk him.
SUGAR: I feel like the edit is showing us that the alliances are Matty/Susie and Crystal/Ken, with Sugar in the middle, which means that the final three will probably be one of each pair along with Sugar. More than anyone, Sugar has control over what happens in the endgame, and she is savvy enough to know that facing Kenny or Matty would be stupid. Unless, of course, she figures she has no chance of winning anyhow and wants to help Matty along, but I think she's in it until the end. She needs the two women in the final with her to maximize her chances, which, let's face it, are virtually non-existent, and she has even stated in the CBS.com footage that she feels Crystal is someone she might have a chance against with the jury. None of the jurors are going to be willing to admit she outsmarted them, and they will take it out on her Lil-style. Best case scenario: she picks up a random friendship vote from someone like Matty. Most likely, she just gets yelled at and receives no votes.
SUSIE: I think she's along for the ride. She may make the F3 as a non-threat, but is no real threat to win. Her only real chance is for a twist with only a F2 facing the jury and she gets to face Sugar because I suspect Randy and Corinne hate her slightly less. Nobody on the jury will have any actual reason to want to vote for her, but maybe they might berate her less than they plan to berate Sugar. I guess the one question is will she stay loyal or will she cut Matty loose at the end? She needs to cut Matty loose if she wants any chance at all. Best chances: take Crystal and Sugar. The jury despises Sugar and Crystal, at least, is mouthy enough to potentially alienate some jurors.
THE JURY: Charlie's question is going to demand the finalists explain why Marcus is more deserving of the million than them, because, as we all know, Charlie's game plan was to take Marcus to the final and lose to him, hoping that this will result in Marcus switching teams in gratitude. Bob will probably be a class act. Marcus will be smarmy but will be way less annoying than most of his alliance mates. Randy and Corinne will act like the sociopathic jackasses they are, desperately trying to draw attention to themselves and take their frustration at not making the finals (and subsequently losing 7-0 to one of Marcus, Charlie, or Bob) out on a) Sugar, b) Susie, c) Crystal, d) the Universe in general. On the bright side, I imagine Crystal and Sugar will fight fire with fire. |
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So glad Schaudenfreude is back. :) Personally, I don't want any of these people to win. YUCK. It's really gross that someone from Fang is going to win this. And I was so happy with the final four of last season, all deserving power players, that it was inevitable this season's end game would be a disappointment. That said, putting my personal feelings aside, this game isn't about whether I like these people or not. And, I can certainly respect when good game play happens even if I'm not rooting for the likely final 2 or 3 candidates. Dealing with paranoia is a big part of the game and with good reason. Trust no one. BOB: Kenny is right. Bob really can't play this game. Bob promising to give Kenny and idol? Ugh. Why can't Bob just tell Kenny, "Corrine must have decided she didn't have to play the idol and was hoping to hold onto it." Bob is one of those likeable quirky characters who we are glad to have around, but cannot really play the game. Think of him as a Colorful Butch-S6. CRYSTAL: I think she has it going on. I think she's been vulnerable since the beginning. Somehow, she's a front runner to win if somehow Kenny can get blindsided Susie and Sugar are despised by the jury, Matty isn't enough of a player to get into the final 2/3. KEN: Yes, I know he's playing a good game (but I really don't like his personality). However, if he can keep Sugar from trying to take him out, he'll probably get to the finals and win. I wish I could condemn him for playing Bob like a fiddle, but I agree with him. Bob isn't cut out of the game part of the game. The jury basically likes Kenny. So if he makes the finals, he wins. From a Story Arc perspective, he might end up in that Rob C., Fairplay role of getting to the last IC but not the final. MATTY: Too honest. Physical threat. He doesn't think strategically. 5th place. SUGAR: Sugar is despised by Sugar and Randy. It's hard to see her win. But we did say Christy say she wouldn't vote for Jenna, but then she did. She sees through Kenny. She has since he turned her against Ace. However, she makes her choices emotionally. If she is going to go after Kenny or Crystal, she might go after Crystal just for being a bully. SUSIE: I just have a hard time seeing her win from a story arc perspective. We see very little of her thinking strategically. The jury doesn't like her. If there is a final 3, she might end up as the Becky/Cassandra person who doesn't get a single vote from the jury. The biggest problem I have with everyone's game play this season are the emotional targeting. It would be nice if someone saw Kenny for the threat he is just to be a challenge. And why are people setting for final 5 deals? Did this cast know about the final 2 last season? In any event, if you believe you have a final 5 deal, you need to know how you are going to get to the final 2 or 3. You need to know (1) who you want to face in the final TC, (2) against which jury; (3) how you get you both there in a way that still allows you to win a jury vote at least as the lesser of evils. That's it. Who you like or don't like is irrelevant unless you are on the jury. It's not about "friendship", it's about mutually shared interests. Since no one else is even attempting an outwit, mental game, Kenny will probably win. Blech. |
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Coach you really think Bob would give Kenny the IN? Kenny's "Bob is messing with th wrong guy" tells me Kenny will wind up on the short end. I
think Kenny is getting too power hungry, and playing it was too hard. Corinne saw through his vote thing. He even told her what his card would look like -
serious red flag. I don't think he's trusted now at all, even Crystal.
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There's something to be said for the fact that most of the gabon castaways (today) dislike both Kenny and Sugar and do not speak to them.
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Mypoody2 wrote:How do we know this? |
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Unfortunately, I think that Matty wins. Ken/Crystal made a big mistake by not blindsiding him. Matty doesn't even need to strategize to win, he just
needs to be wearing the Immunity necklace at the next 3 tribal councils. If he makes the Final 3, he wins. I don't see any way that both he and Bob, the
only other jury threat, can both make Final 3. Matty is the least objectionable of the original Fang and is not disliked by any current or prospective jurors.
He is also one of the 3 people left in the game (along with Bob and Crystal) that had a confessional during Probst's opening narrative in the first
episode.
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crocophile wrote:Well, I don't know. I would like to think Bob wouldn't do that. Was there a confessional where Crystal said she didn't trust Kenny? I'm not sure. I'm sure Matty loves his girlfriend, but these on television marriage proposals just kind of feel icky. Granted, this was more like a Keith asking Peas to marry him (did they get married?), then the nauseating Amazing Race proposals. |
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Mypoody2 wrote:Uh no. In Randy's and Corinne's recent interviews they never said they disliked Kenny, in fact, they said he was the one they liked the most out of the remaining group besides Bob, they just have not talked to him since the show wrapped filming. |
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GrenadeJumper85 wrote:Which is a pretty good sign that if Kenny does make the finals, he's the favorite. |
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Que |
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Taking post show interviews into account. Cuntrine and Randy are still very bitter, and have said nasty things about Sugar and Suzi. I think these may be our
final 2.
Cuntrine said Matty was nice and Bob she loves, Kenny not as smart as she thought and Crystal ?? I'd bet there was no loser lodge reconcile with Sugar, a few days out of game mode can change how you view a person.... ELIZA and OZZIE! And I just don't get her hate of Suzi, Suzi told her, "well i was going to vote for you" when she wasn't in the "alliance" so Cuntrine hates her?? She HATES these 2 because SHE considers them both beneth her, stupid and ugly mutants... NOT the cool good looking popular kids crowd (which matty fits into) Coach: I agree Coach, we have been shown NOTHING...if she is final 2 as I suspect, CBS better get it in gear and show us SOMETHING... a confessional with her game plan...UTR is fine if your playing it that way and using it, just "falling" into that role because you are inviable just make you lucky. Personally, the few times Suzi has spoken she has been shown positive. She didn't backlash against Randy, she felt empathy towrds him and thought he was just a very lonely person. She has won Immunity...more than Cuntrine or Randy did. (even with Cuntrines advantage clue) She is the camp workerbee, but we aren't shown more, why? Hopefully saving it up for the F5 and we will see her emerge. I don't Matty as the winner, he hasn't been shown to be more than a pretty face with muscles who can't win a challenge! Crystal maybe...long shot but I'd bet she get jury votes over Sugar or Suzi. Kenny...the false winner, the one who get a big blindside by his tribemates. He has gotten more cocky and more and more confident as the days go by. He stated Bob doesn't have game, I'd bet BOB is going to be instrumental in Kenny demise. Bob I'd love to see him win. But again based on the still BITTER BETTY's of Kota I doubt it, if thier boy had been in the final they be a little bit less sour. Sugar is getting the SWEETHEART edit... the underdog, the one who on Day 1 NO-ONE (including me) thought would last, she was just too soft etc... but she is proving everyone wrong and she's in the cat bird seat. Cuntrine is still spewing garbage about her (JEALOUS MUCH) etc... |
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Mypoody2 wrote:that makes it more likely they made f2 an we will get bitter jury questions, an sugar probly made an ass of her self at when the jury ranted at her. |
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I'm glad my first impression of Sugar as a secret strategist was borne out, but I'm liking her less and less. She's quite nasty... but in a season
full of even nastier players (Corinne, Randy, Crystal), it doesn't stand out as much.
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This season has been great but the endgame will be disappointing. The people who have played the hardest (Ken, Crystal, Sugar) are not well-positioned to win.
If it's an all-girl Final 3, Susie has a chance at winning simply because the Onions might retaliate against the other options (they've all admitted
she's a nice, though annoying, woman and she needs the money to boot). The story arc wouldn't be that Susie won but that Sugar's scheming caused
her to lose. Crystal's also a possible winner, and Marcus and Corinne have even shown some respect to her in post-show interviews. They would have to
convince Randy to vote with them, though, because Corinne has pretty much said that the Onions voted in a unified block.
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