Why Plan "Fake Idol 2.0" failed.

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Fart Party		#41	[-]
Posts: 15 (12/05/08 1:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What people are forgetting is no fucking way anyone wants to go into the finals with Bob or Matty, they're an easy sell to the jury. Sugar and Crystal can at least try with their final speech (even if they don't realize they'd probably be cooked against Ken.) otherwise.
star jumper		#42	[-]
Posts: 37855 (12/05/08 1:40 PM) I'm an ugly Yeti King Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sugar's final speech will kill it for her. Unless of course Snoozie and Crystal are there with her.
potroast		#43	[-]
Posts: 174 (12/05/08 1:58 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Fart Party hit the nail on the head: NOBODY wants Bob around because he is way too squeeky clean. While Ken may have lost his leadership position by voting for Matty, it just makes him dirtier and more appealing to bring along to the finals. Ken made a mistake, but he still wins easily against the girls.
PostnumberZERO		#44	[-]
Posts: 121 (12/05/08 4:11 PM) REALLY slow learner Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	alliance of 5 = the people out are in deep shit. See: Thailand, Borneo, and Allstars.
Tekstyle		#45	[-]
Posts: 100 (12/07/08 1:48 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Palau also
ExileIslander		#46	[-]
Posts: 66 (12/07/08 3:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenny fucked it up this time .. how disappointing !!!
Apprentice Talker		#47	[-]
Posts: 6986 (12/07/08 3:47 AM) WRP Official Spokesperson Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jeff burned the fake idol in a big tribal council torch. That's too pathetic for the Fake Idol.
SucksSucks		#48	[-]
Posts: 408 (12/07/08 4:17 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Actually, Bob still has a card up his sleeve. He can tell everyone that he still has the idol because he didn't give it to Corinne and they were only bluffing about playing it. Im pretty sure that's how it's going to play out in the next episode.
3Diesel		#49	[-]
Posts: 286 (12/07/08 4:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	A 3rd try with the fake idol would be pushing it
SucksSucks		#50	[-]
Posts: 410 (12/07/08 4:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	3Diesel wrote: A 3rd try with the fake idol would be pushing it Actually, it would be Idol 2.1 because its just a continuation of the second idol, and the plan is completely plausible. Bob can just tell them he was never willing to give the idol to Corinne and the story they gave to Kenny and Crystal was just a bluff to get them to vote their way.
Crowlass		#51	[-]
Posts: 2292 (12/07/08 8:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	They should've told Kenny and Crystal that they're playing the HII and voting Kenny out, forcing Kenny/Crystal to scramble and both vote for Matty. Then Corinne/Bob switch their votes over to Matty. X I really thought that is how they were gonna play with fake idol 2.0. Let Kenny know that their 2 votes were for him no matter what and they were playing the idol. Tell him his only chance of staying is by forcing a 2 - 2 - 3 split: 2 votes for Kenny (Corinne and Bob,) 2 votes for Corinne (Matty and Suzie/Sugar,) and 3 votes for Matty (Kenny, Crystal, and Suzie/Sugar.) I think Sugar would have gone with Kenny and Crystal to vote out Matty if that were the scenerio (she likes to take out threats.) With Corinne and Bob voting out Matty anyways, Matty would still leave if they didn't get Suzie/ Sugar to flip.
Mswldflwr		#52	[-]
Posts: 80 (12/07/08 8:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The only way it could have worked is so simple. They should have told Kenny they were voting for him unless he flipped. Done. Then Crystal would have followed suit so as not to lose Ken. Very much like Palau where Tom and Ian literally forced Katie to vote with them to get Greg out or they would force a purple rock pick. Like usual, they overcomplicated the entire thing. Keep it simple.
The Dharma Initiative		#53	[-]
Posts: 245 (12/07/08 9:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It's easy to claim you would have done things differently having had a clear frame of mind living & viewing the program in your mother's basements.
SucksSucks		#54	[-]
Posts: 411 (12/07/08 9:53 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mswldflwr wrote: The only way it could have worked is so simple. They should have told Kenny they were voting for him unless he flipped. Done. Then Crystal would have followed suit so as not to lose Ken. Very much like Palau where Tom and Ian literally forced Katie to vote with them to get Greg out or they would force a purple rock pick. Like usual, they overcomplicated the entire thing. Keep it simple. That's not foolproof either. Of course Kenny would say he'd flip if he was put in that position. Then he would go back on his word.
SucksSucks		#55	[-]
Posts: 412 (12/07/08 10:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crowlass wrote: They should've told Kenny and Crystal that they're playing the HII and voting Kenny out, forcing Kenny/Crystal to scramble and both vote for Matty. Then Corinne/Bob switch their votes over to Matty. X I really thought that is how they were gonna play with fake idol 2.0. Let Kenny know that their 2 votes were for him no matter what and they were playing the idol. Tell him his only chance of staying is by forcing a 2 - 2 - 3 split: 2 votes for Kenny (Corinne and Bob,) 2 votes for Corinne (Matty and Suzie/Sugar,) and 3 votes for Matty (Kenny, Crystal, and Suzie/Sugar.) I think Sugar would have gone with Kenny and Crystal to vote out Matty if that were the scenerio (she likes to take out threats.) With Corinne and Bob voting out Matty anyways, Matty would still leave if they didn't get Suzie/ Sugar to flip. Of course Kenny is going to ask "Why are you telling me you are going to vote me out?". What then?
Crowlass		#56	[-]
Posts: 2295 (12/07/08 10:50 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Of course Kenny is going to ask "Why are you telling me you are going to vote me out?". What then? Corinne could just tell Kenny that she wants the blood on his hands. If he doesn't want to do anything about it, then tough luck your going home.
colleenlover		#57	[-]
Posts: 8859 (12/07/08 11:19 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	actually, what I think the best way to do this from Bob and Corrine's perspective is NOT tell anyone about the fake idol directly- and only talk to one another but be deliberately overheard, most likely by Ken or Crystal. let the fivesome scramble within themselves to vote out one of their own for self protection since they believe Corrine is playing an idol and anyone of them is going home. If paranoia works, when pressed or cornered (as the plan should be) Corrine hints that the idol is from the beach. Self protection spreads like wildfire -Sugar and Susie already suspects they'll be a target of Corrine's and they too will need to cover their butt. It's a gamble, but Corrine and Bob would most likely get the Fang five to have a target within themselves or at least split the vote enough that there is a 2/2 tie between Corrine and another and then the third person with three votes goes home.
crzypunk2004		#58	[-]
Posts: 3934 (12/07/08 11:21 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	based on crystal's voting confessional, I think she really wanted Corrine to go.
bannedchef		#59	[-]
Posts: 1914 (12/07/08 11:43 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Actually, it would be Idol 2.1 because its just a continuation of the second idol, and the plan is completely plausible. Bob can just tell them he was never willing to give the idol to Corinne and the story they gave to Kenny and Crystal was just a bluff to get them to vote their way. You know Bob is toast in this game, but you also have to give the guy credit for at least going down fighting. Not only being an "immunity threat" at age 60 (LOL) but also taking the "fake idol" concept to a level we've never seen. But there is no way Bob makes it to the jury short of an immunity run thru the rest of the game.
Mswldflwr		#60	[-]
Posts: 82 (12/07/08 12:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SucksSucks wrote: Mswldflwr wrote: The only way it could have worked is so simple. They should have told Kenny they were voting for him unless he flipped. Done. Then Crystal would have followed suit so as not to lose Ken. Very much like Palau where Tom and Ian literally forced Katie to vote with them to get Greg out or they would force a purple rock pick. Like usual, they overcomplicated the entire thing. Keep it simple. That's not foolproof either. Of course Kenny would say he'd flip if he was put in that position. Then he would go back on his word. Of course it's not foolproof, but would have been a better option. The way Bob/Corinne did it was a win/win option for Kenny. Either way, somebody else was going and he was going to live to see another day. I'm just saying it would have been more effective for them to threaten Kenny directly. And I think that way they could have gotten Crystal too because I think she'd do what she had to to save Kenny.

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