S17 Week 11 or something Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

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Que		#141	[-]
Posts: 1202 (12/05/08 10:32 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Crystal and Kenny are still tight. The plan was for Kenny to vote with Bob and Corrine against Matty. Crystal was to vote for Corrine that way, IF the idol was fake They would know they had been played. IF the idol was real then it's F4 with them. So, now they know it was fake and they can't trust Bob. BUT...Kenny just got jury votes, Corrine will go back and say he's the only smart one etc... He simply has to spin it as they were just "flushing the fake idol out" so no-one else will fall for it. We KNEW Matty wasn't going home etc... A few words can easily sooth Matty. SUGAR though will see through his actions. And why not concerned for Sugar HII? They will let her go to F3 she doesn't have an F2 pact with anyone (Matty and Suzi F2, Kenny Crystal F2) The jury HATES her... she not a threat etc... but those are the ones who sneak up and win. BUT...SUZI???? Dayum she quiet... hardly any confessionals etc... unless they are waiting to show us Suzi in F4, there is no-way she can win. Everyone besides Corrine, Suzi and Crystal has nice one on shots and confessionals with thier loved ones??? DOES SHE SPEAK? she's always shown as part of the group but never voicing ANYTHING! The whole season has been the SUGAR season, she has had confessional in every episode etc.... she is still seen as good, Kenny and crystal are now seen as BAD!
birdlady		#142	[-]
Posts: 1979 (12/05/08 10:47 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, there's an extra scene where Crystal is talking about how she and Kenny are being very careful not to be seen as tight, not to go off together and talk, etc. I'm not sure they are very convincing, but perhaps Kenny thought this was a way to show the players remaining in the game that they aren't a unified pair. Some risk, but perhaps less risk than doing nothing and getting targeted. Jury votes are good, but you have to make it in front of the jury to be able to use them.
winterland121072		#143	[-]
Posts: 1008 (12/05/08 11:05 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sam Buru wrote: Only Kenny didn't need to vote for Matty, the outcome would have been exactly the same if he voted for Corinne. (This has been pointed out here already but it needs to be reitterated) By letting Corinne know that he voted for Matty, Kenny gains her jury vote and potentially marcus' and charlie's and Randy's and bob's. Kenny wins this thing. Final 3 is Susie / Sugar / Kenny. Kenny wins easily...
erickman		#144	[-]
Posts: 20310 (12/05/08 12:56 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	trinity17888 wrote: Why are Kenny and Crystal not worried about flushing out Sugar's idol? They are so worried about Matty...who hasn't won immunity and has no strategy. Seems like Sugar will sail right into F3. they both want sugar to make it to f3 she is this seasons goat, we get another season of a wasted idol, that sugar will put on ebay
erickman		#145	[-]
Posts: 20311 (12/05/08 1:16 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	pattic777 wrote: I don't think that was all of his ashes -- it looked like a very small vial. I would guess that the remainder are wherever the family would want them to be. i see a fairplay in that they could be fake ashes
crocophile		#146	[-]
Posts: 10386 (12/05/08 1:19 PM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Corinne seems well aware that Kenny was playing her for her jury vote. He told her how he'd mark his ballot. She even calls his game overrated. I wouldn't be too quick to chaulk her vote up for him. Charlie has reason to not like Kenny - the gay bashing slur. Marcus also does not like Kenny. Randy might, but Kenny's running out of real estate.
Que		#147	[-]
Posts: 1203 (12/05/08 3:20 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Marcus also does not like Kenny yes, lets not forget that it was Kenny who got Suzi to help vote Marcus out. The only reason I think Corrine spoke nicely of Kenny was because he went along with her plan, After all ONLY her plans are smart and worthwhile etc....
trinity17888		#148	[-]
Posts: 620 (12/05/08 8:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Got to give Bob credit - he was successful in one huge thing this week. He caused chaos in the main alliance. Although would anyone trust Bob, with all his fake idols, any more than Kenny at this point?
crocophile		#149	[-]
Posts: 10389 (12/06/08 3:54 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Corinne said she was only giving Kenny a polite nod.
chad6		#150	[-]
Posts: 2201 (12/06/08 6:52 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crocophile wrote: Corinne seems well aware that Kenny was playing her for her jury vote. He told her how he'd mark his ballot. She even calls his game overrated. I wouldn't be too quick to chaulk her vote up for him. Charlie has reason to not like Kenny - the gay bashing slur. Marcus also does not like Kenny. Randy might, but Kenny's running out of real estate. Yes, but she said she thinks this after watching the episode. Which means maybe she thought Kenny was a good player until seeing it on tv. I think she'll vote for Kenny if he's there.
crocophile		#151	[-]
Posts: 10394 (12/07/08 6:14 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well Corinne said she was suprised about the outing the HI stuff....Kenny told Corinne how he'd mark his vote, and did just that. That should certainly raise a red flag with her. If he plays Bob this week...
montanagirl		#152	[-]
Posts: 703 (12/08/08 2:35 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	At least the Fang5 are making a seemingly boring predictable Pagonging into an exciting one. For the past two episodes at least, it has been Bob, Corinne, and Randy who have made the show exciting - NOT the Fongs.
chad6		#153	[-]
Posts: 2244 (12/10/08 7:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crocophile wrote: Well Corinne said she was suprised about the outing the HI stuff....Kenny told Corinne how he'd mark his vote, and did just that. That should certainly raise a red flag with her. If he plays Bob this week... True, but Kenny actual thought Matty was leaving, so he was actually on Corinne's side. If she sees this as Kenny just trying to get her vote then she his wrong. But I guess it just comes down to whether or not she thinks Kenny was truly on board with her. But again, I still think she's voting for Kenny if he's there at the end (unless Bob pulls off a miracle).
chad6		#154	[-]
Posts: 2245 (12/10/08 8:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	montanagirl wrote: At least the Fang5 are making a seemingly boring predictable Pagonging into an exciting one. For the past two episodes at least, it has been Bob, Corinne, and Randy who have made the show exciting - NOT the Fongs. Really? I could have sworn it was Sugar's idea to play the trick on Randy that made his boot episode entertaining. Not to mention Crystal's hilarious yelling at TC. And it was Kenny/Crystal and their plan that made last episode interesting.
montanagirl		#155	[-]
Posts: 709 (12/10/08 10:40 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chad6 wrote: montanagirl wrote: At least the Fang5 are making a seemingly boring predictable Pagonging into an exciting one. For the past two episodes at least, it has been Bob, Corinne, and Randy who have made the show exciting - NOT the Fongs. Really? I could have sworn it was Sugar's idea to play the trick on Randy that made his boot episode entertaining. Not to mention Crystal's hilarious yelling at TC. And it was Kenny/Crystal and their plan that made last episode interesting. But it was Bob's Idol and Randy's attitude that made the episode. And yes, Crystal's yelling WAS hilarious too. And it was again Bob's Idol, Bob's Idea, and Bob and Corinne trying to carry it out - Kenny and Crystal would only have been interesting to me if they had actually voted out Matty. Po-tate-o, Po-tat-o.

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