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losemygrip	Will Sugar swing? Will Matty finally start playing the game?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 122 (11/22/08 11:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm wondering if in the next episode Sugar will see the wisdom in busting up the Kenny/Crystal/Susie party and swing to Corinne/Bob. She could probably persuade Matty. In one of the edited scenes in JP's blog, Matty talks about how Kenny is the mastermind and how he and Sugar are going to have to go, so he seems aware. If it doesn't happen now, it's hard to see how it could ever happen. Then she could swing right back again and dump the bitch Corinne. This could lead to a Sugar/Bob/Matty final 3, although I don't think Sugar would let it come to that. She'd rather be up against Crystal and Susie in the final. Otherwise, it'll be Kennny/Crystal/Susie at the end (unless somebody goes on an immunity run).
Quiddity		#1	[-]
Posts: 4088 (11/23/08 10:29 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Matty seems to me to be the obvious out at five due to his challenge strength. In fact Fang might even cut him loose at six considering how old Bob is. This is definately the right point in the game for him to switch. The trouble I think is Sugar. Sugar is at least fourth in her alliance and has the idol to protect her when she would likely be most vulnerable, F5. She's one challenge win away from F3 at that point. I have a hard time seeing Sugar switch at F7.
cindidindi76		#2	[-]
Posts: 13559 (11/24/08 5:07 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm wondering if in the next episode Sugar will see the wisdom You're funny! I can see this frustrating me much in the same way ASS did, in that no one has the sense to realize that there is an obvious pair and you can't all be F3.
tullfan2		#3	[-]
Posts: 2947 (11/24/08 5:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenny/Crystal/Susie agreed to vote Marcus out when they were all together at Kota but I'm not convinced that all 3 of them are in an alliance together. Kenny and Crystal have been together for the whole game but Susie could be a free agent. My spec. is that Sugar will give Bob the HII to reciprocate for his agreeing to give the fake idol to Randy so that he will be humiliated. When it comes time for Bob to go (either F5 or F6), everyone will vote for him. He will play the HII and whomever he votes for (I suspect that it will be Ken) will be booted. The HII is of little use to Sugar because Matty/Crystal/Ken and maybe Susie all know that she has it so she has a better play by giving it to someone else.
KenIsBeast		#4	[-]
Posts: 1 (11/24/08 6:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sugar's willing to let Ken win. Sugar makes a small prediction that her and Ken will actully make F2 or F3 and if they do make it, she stated that Ken will win the vote, also stating that he deserves it. This is because there are segregations in the Fang 5 alliance itself. The alliance is Crystal/Ken and Matty/Susie. M/S tried to swing Sugar, but Sugar wanted to stay true and go with C/K.
losemygrip		#5	[-]
Posts: 123 (11/24/08 11:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oooo, Tull, I like that idea. But I have a feeling she wouldn't give up the idol. It would be a brilliant move, however. She HAS shown herself to be eminently pragmatic in her strategy, and so far we haven't been shown that she's getting much kickback about it (except from Randy!). I wonder, though, because of that interview with Matty. Maybe there's a much higher fatigue factor with Sugar and her switches than is being shown. Crystal is too stupid and egotistical to realize she can't win against Ken. Susie, on the other hand . . . she's got to know that she's #3 in that group, and if someone goes on an immunity run, she wouldn't make it to the end. Plus, she probably realizes that all the Kotas hate her for bringing about their demise. She might have a slightly better chance, however, against Sugar and Crystal. Then she and Sugar would have very similar jury arguments (if they're smart): we outplayed everyone by being loyal to ourselves; respect our hardass gameplay. Here's another option: Sugar gives Bob the idol, Bob goes to Ken/Crystal/Susie and rats her out, and Sugar gets ousted. I have to say, this season has turned out more interesting that I expected. It remains to be seen if it stays that way.
micronesia		#6	[-]
Posts: 138 (11/25/08 8:28 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I`ve said it before and it should be really obvious to anyone watching the show that Sugar, Crystal and Suzie wont have the slightest chance to win this unless it`s exactly the 3 of them going to the final 3. That would make an AWESOME F3 though, just because of the jury-questions at the FTC. Randy & Corinne might actually try to kill themselves if they were forced to write one of those names down. Randy might actually even refuse to write a name down and would be stripped of any cash and the right to participate at the reunion show! SUGAR, CRYSTAL & SUZIE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE HILLARITY OF THIS MIGHT KILL ME, BUT I`M WILLING TO RISK IT! Edit: I know that Sugar and Crystal are probably too dumb to realize what I explained above, or else they`d be a lock for F3 with Sugars idol. Too bad... Last Edited By: micronesia 11/25/08 8:31 AM. Edited 1 times.
kishuu		#7	[-]
Posts: 626 (11/28/08 6:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	micronesia wrote: I`ve said it before and it should be really obvious to anyone watching the show that Sugar, Crystal and Suzie wont have the slightest chance to win this unless it`s exactly the 3 of them going to the final 3. That would make an AWESOME F3 though, just because of the jury-questions at the FTC. Randy & Corinne might actually try to kill themselves if they were forced to write one of those names down. Randy might actually even refuse to write a name down and would be stripped of any cash and the right to participate at the reunion show! SUGAR, CRYSTAL & SUZIE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE HILLARITY OF THIS MIGHT KILL ME, BUT I`M WILLING TO RISK IT! Edit: I know that Sugar and Crystal are probably too dumb to realize what I explained above, or else they`d be a lock for F3 with Sugars idol. Too bad... In Insiders, it's been shown that Corrine/Crystal get along pretty well as compared to the other Fang members. It's obvious she'll vote Crystal in a Sugar/Susie/Crystal F3. Actually, in that scenario, Crystal is the jury threat and likely winner.
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor		#8	[-]
Posts: 6344 (11/28/08 11:30 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sugar has no reason to tip the scales. Her best bet is to make it to the F4 which is pretty much assured since she has the idol and it would be stupid to try and flush it out from her and put it back into play. Once in the F4, she can appeal to Crystal/Susie that Ken will easily win this thing if they don't get rid of him. The other scenario is useless. Nobody gains anything by working with Bob or Corrine. They both have three guaranteed votes on the jury already in Marcus, Charlie & Randy. If only one of them makes it to the finals, they have four guaranteed votes. Sugar/Matty would be going into a F4 deal even with two players, Bob/Corinne, that could easily swing the remaining one or two of Ken/Crystal/Susie into their camp after they're pissed that Sugar/Matty turned on them... Then, if you're Matty, there wasn't and isn't much to gain at all by trying to topple the power structure. Even if I knew for certain that I was the fifth rung in Ken's alliance, better to be that than the fourth rung in an alliance with two people (Bob/Corinne) that I don't want to see win at all.

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