Edinboro wrote:are you retarded?
Did Kel really bring the beef jerkey?
Personally, I vote yes.
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MikeHaggarKJ |
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Edinboro wrote:are you retarded? |
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mecansodemactors |
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MikeHaggarKJ wrote: Umm, are you retarded Mike? Have you listened to the Australia commentary? As Tina says "there's a lot of evidence against the 'poor boy',". At customs, he was caught with a pound of beef jerkey. In the military he was taught to sew beef jerkey into the hem of his pants. Most of Ogakor, not just Jerri, said they were sure they saw him chewing something out there. And Amber says to this day she still believes he had it, as does Tina. Go jerk off to the thought of Jenna Morasca's dead body. |
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Fatami |
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It was Cal.
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Maniacboy888 |
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What about the All-Stars challenge?
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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I don't remember anything about an All-Stars challenge, actually. Care to refresh my memory?
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Maniacboy888 |
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Go back to the last page
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Bubba4life |
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anything new?
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chialphaforlife |
Re: Christy voting for Jenna (to win) at final tribal | ||
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Does anyone know whether Christy had watched Survivor before being cast for the Amazon season? My guess is that she had, or knew something about the show. In
that case, she probably would have had to have known that one votes for a winner at the final tribal. Jeff tells the jury members at the final tribal every
season that they are voting for a winner, not against someone; he has told jury members that at the final tribal during every season since the first.
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Jeff P3 |
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hamandcheesesandwich wrote: Doubtful, as Rich wasn't in the game at that point. There are only two challenges Rich was part of where a numbered score was kept: the episode 4 reward challenge (memory-esque game) and the episode 5 immunity challenge, but even then the flags were visible so Jeff could keep track of the scores. I'm guessing that memory reward challenge, between which of the three tribes had how many points and how many items each player had left. Never heard anything official about it though. |
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Cyberball2072 |
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1) Kel can't prove a negative. As a US Army trained Ranger, he would know how to live off the land. I know enough that crickets and grasshoppers (which
were out there) are all protein and would be something I would eat. I know that Bark is edible as well. Assuming Kel actually TOLD that to his tribe mates,
which he SHOULD have done, if he didn't. That would have aswayed a lot of things. In any case, unless we are given a direct time frame where production can
look- Jeff Probst has indicated that while he thinks Kel did have it, that's not good enough- he has to say "I've reviewed footage from the 6 days
during times where he was alone and saw X", nothing else would count to me.
2) I'd like to see what Christy Smith said when she voted in the Jury. I personally beleive she mistook what Probst said and wrote Jenna's name down thinking she was voting against Jenna somehow. She was a bitter, hate filled, spoiled girl and never fell for the "She's Deaf so she must be innocent act". I think they are omitting christy's vote to protect her from looking stupid. 3) I saw Jeff Probst coerce Janu into quitting on Season 10. He say's he didn't (like he would ever admit it if he did). |
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OzarkSurvivor |
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Cyberball2072 wrote: Here's how I feel about the Janu situation: Janu wanted to leave REALLY BADLY. She was done with the environment, done with Katie, done with the game. She wanted to desperately to leave that she asked Koror to vote her out. They wouldn't do it, because they wanted to keep her around as a non-threat. The reason she wouldn't quit one her own, is because they had made it to the jury, and she didn't know if she would forfeit her jury spot and/or her prize money if she quit, rather than getting voted out like a real person. In addition, Probst/EPMB/SEG really REALLY REALLY wanted to continue the Steph storyline. Do I think that Probst and production coerced her? Yes. However, I also think that, had Janu known that quitting the game wouldn't be forfeiting her jury spot and prize money, she would have just done so, no questions asked, no coersion required. |
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Cyberball2072 |
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I do not believe Jeff Probst at all when he says that he does not know anything about what is going on at TC and just wings every TC that he does.
Survivor is too high a production value show. Even VERY low quality reality shows and scripted shows have a "test audience" there to give the producers ideas on what is working or what is not working. I know for a fact that the ULTIMATE FIGHTER has such a thing, so do other show. So I don't believe for a second that every shift of camera crewmen is not interrogated/debriefed at the end of their shift. I believe Probst sit's down with psychologists for the show , whom discuss what is happening already, what their psyche profile suggests they will do, and so on. I believe all of this Probst takes notes on and such. Going back to Season 10 and Janu- Do you all find it odd that the ONLY time in that season where there was a challenge that involved an "exile island" sort of concept was only used in ONE episode? That the challenge was one that someone as weak willed as Janu was almost certain to lose? I believe that Jeff Probst, in his dealings with the target audience, KNEW that Stephanie was going to be VERY popular with the fans. And that everything in that episode, from the Exile Island thing done on Janu, to everything else, was all done as a part of opening the door to give Janu the opp to quit in order to preserve Stephanie for one more episode. Worst of all, I can watch that episode on DVD and SEE Jeff Probst coerce Janu into quitting. Go back to Survivor AMAZON, episode 4. Shawna flat out said she wanted to go home and she did not want to be there anymore. Probst just ignored her, did not even acknowledge it. Yet in Survivor 7, episode 7, AFTER the OutCast twist had occurred and MORGAN and DRAKE tribes HAD to vote out one member, Osten offered himself up to be the one voted out. Did not say he was going to quit or anything like that. I think Probst was NOT interested in getting a pretty white girl to quit on national TV, but had no problem doing it to a black man. So yes, 100% I believe Probst and Survivor Production absolutely wanted Janu to quit. If they had seriously not, they would have kicked Janu off the Jury and placed Bobby John on the jury in her place. |
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panurge46 |
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Cyberball wrote: You mean you think the star actually works for a living?!!! Probst wouldn't be bothered with what's going on minute to minute. TC and challenges are plenty for him with a few key points of conflicts during the 3 days. Janu simply couldn't bring herself to use the word quit until she had reassurance about her jury status. Did production prefer that outcome? Certainly. Did they coerce her? You don't coerce someone into doing something they desperately want to do. |
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OzarkSurvivor |
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Well said, panurge.
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Cyberball2072 |
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I could not disagree with you more.
First off, it is NOT like all Probst does is challenges and TC's. I believe he reviews EVERYTHING that production puts down to him, that he is shown EXACTLY what is going on in camp, including the two cents of Psychologists, whom will tell Probst things that they mean and so on an so forth. I firmly 100% believe that, and Survivor is too high up the food chain NOT to have such a thing. Remember how in Survivor Pearl Islands, how at the final 4, there was a IC where the Jury got involved? I beleive that was a 100% result of the producers and test audience telling them that Rupert would be well liked by the viewers when the show aired, so they devised that as a way of getting him more directly involved in the episode. I've seen probst do/say things that I don't believe he just stumbled upon. Sure, I think when someone says something that he already knew had happened, he opens the door for the Survivor's to go into it. ANd Probst also shuts down things that don't conform to what the producers/test audience has said will work/won't work. For example in season 6. Sure, the male tribe had a good lead when they hit the balance beam. And we all remember how Daniel Lue squandered that lead. But they still completed the balance beam at the same time as the women did; and when they hit the final jigsaw puzzle part, we all saw how it was Rob C and Dave Johnson that ultimately cost them the challenge- the women had finished the puzzle and were winning before the men even finished the puzzle. At Tribal Council, Probst did a lot to put the entire loss on Daniel Lue's shoulders. Daniel said in an interview that he wanted to try to deflect some of the blame for it onto Dave Johnson, whom was leading the "Dan Choked" crowd. But you see on TV that the instant Dan starts to bring up his deflection angle (which he as a Survivor had EVERY RIGHT to bring up), Probst immediately shut it down. Probst had no business doing that. He should have let Daniel say what he wants, and then in editing they could edit it in that he cut off Daniel if that is what they want. But I think that between Daniels VERY sexist's remarks combined with that "I'm so honest/honorable'"speech that Dave Johnson gave, that the test audience noted that Dave would be very popular (which he was) and Daniel would not be that popular, and the result is that Probst was told to protect Dave and try to spin Dan to look bad. My two cents. As far as Janu goes, if she REALLY wanted to quit for the reasons she gave on the show, they would have let her quit without ANY prerequisites or anything. The fact that yes, I hear there was a legal questions about Janu's status on the Jury and regarding her cash prize for finishing where she finished. But I do believe production, up to and including Probst, wanted Janu to quit in order to save the very popular Stephanie for another episode. |
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AussieOriginal |
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I do not believe Jeff Probst at all when he says that he does not know anything about what is going on at TC and just wings every TC that he does.Not quite sure what you're saying there, as I've seen an interview where Jeff says that he is briefed prior to TC. And that was from a few years ago. |
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Cyberball2072 |
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He has also said that he knows very little about what is going on. In any case, I believe Probst is given an agenda of things they want to accomplish in their
TC's and promoting people to "hero" status or putting others in "Villains light" is part of the process that Probst is in on.
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OzarkSurvivor |
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But Cyberball, please tell us... how would this have affected ALL STARS? Feel free to flip coins as needed.
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Cyberball2072 |
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I was not discussing ALL STARS in this thread. I was refereing to questions that were never answered and the question I had was whether or not production
WANTED Janu to quit in order to give Stephanie another episode. I personally believe that they did indeed want Janu to quit and EVERYTHING that happened in
that episode was orchestrated on the basis that.....
***Production knew via what was going on that Stephanie was going next. ***Production knew that Janu had been weak for a while now. ***The Challenge where the person that lost would automatically go to 'exile', which had not been done in Survivor yet, was designed to help break Janu. ***The challenge itself, one of will power, was designed that Janu would come in last. ***Everything at Tribal Council was designed to open the door for Janu to quit in order to give Steph another 3 days. |
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Maniacboy888 |
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And yet Janu embraced Exile Island and it made her happy. Love it
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