Al Gore lost it.
it's that simple.
all the hand wringing about the SC decision is just sour grapes.
I blame Florida!
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W didn't WIN 2001
Al Gore lost it. it's that simple. all the hand wringing about the SC decision is just sour grapes. I blame Florida!
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Miles Edgeworth |
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If Gore couldnt even win his own home state than he deserved to lose
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Miles Edgeworth wrote: exactly. |
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i'm not suggesting gore wasn't a weak candidate. same for kerry. pathetic. dukakis-weak.
my point was: don't say it doesn't matter who's president. if gore had won, we wouldn't have invaded iraq, broken the economic system, created this deficit....you know, what i said in my post.... |
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ohboy wrote:The difference btwn Bush and McCain was Bush was a mouthpiece propped up by conservative idealogues . McCain has a track record of proving he will take the most politicially expedient safest no frills position only to occasionally be a "Maverick" with issues no one outside the Beltway or political news junkie world cares about like "The Gang of 14" and "Campaign Finance Reform" What makes you so sure Gore wouldn't have invaded Iraq? Clinton governed like a NeoCon and Gore himself supported Reagan's deployment of INF missiles in Europe and voted for the first Gulf War and only started decrying against Bush and the Iraq War when Bush's popularity started going downhill. While we should be worried about McCain possibly trying to start conflict with Iran based on his own statements I wouldn't rule out Obama getting us into conflict with Pakistan. |
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ohboy wrote:The economic woes were going to wreak havoc eventually no matter who was in office. The course was laid decades ago. The main difference, had Gore won, was that the country would have been bankrupted on the sacrificial altar of environmentalism instead. The only way to fix the problems is to end government interference in the economy. Are there any politicians willing to actually do that? Actually, are there enough ordinary citizens who understand that that's what needs to be done? |
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gore invade iraq? yes, i'm absolutely sure that wouldn't have happened.
pakistan isn't going to take on the world to prevent some air raids on al qaeda. they'll be more than happy to take some foreign aid to smooth over anything that may occur. all obama campaign rhetoric aside, honestly assess mccain's actions the last few weeks: says the fundamentals of the economy are stable; suspends his campaign to run back to the hill and then FAILS to get the his own party to vote how he wanted; picks a nutjob as veep to appease the far right of his party. the "maverick" is rash, temperamental and makes poor decisions. he would be far worse than obama. he could even be worse than bush/cheney when he's backed into a corner, and the state of the economy guarantees some tense times ahead. |
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TobaccoRhoda wrote:Perhaps you'll ask McCain how deeply in the tank his fucking campaign manager is to Fannie and Freddie.
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Veelicious |
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That is hilarious. Is that real and where was it published?
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lilnubber |
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It's not real. I found it at the evil DKos.
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Damn! Still funny.
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Point of information, please, for someone who was busy over the weekend?
Did Captain Earmarks vote for, or against, the $700B bill with the $150B of "sweeteners"? Please privilege* me with a simple yes or no answer. * Use of "privilege" as a verb taken from the debate, don'tcha know. |
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Well it was already famous, so he voted for it.
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meatball77 |
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He voted for it and then complained about the waste the next day on Fox
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Oh, bollix. Both McCain and Obama were damned if they did and damned if they didn't vote for the bailout bill.
But it was kind of refreshing to see them vote for once while they were campaigning. Last time O voted, it was June. M, April. I heard an interesting stat yesterday regarding Congressmen (it might have been all of Congress, that part was said quickly): 7 out of 10 Congressmen have no formal training in economics. And nubber, a campaign manager is exactly that, to manage a campaign. If you are truly kerfluff about the FannieFreddie mess, I'd have concerns about supporting a candidate who's idea on fixing the economic/housing mess is to seek advice from, well, former head officials of Fannie and Freddie. Not to mention Obama himself is #2 on receiving $$$$ donations from those linked to FannieFreddie. So anytime the Messiah goes Charlton Heston on issuing his 10 Commandments on anything related to the economy and the housing/financial mess, remember, it's fruit from a poisoned tree. |
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springfeverish |
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Oh, no! Say it ain't, so, Joe Sixpack! McCain's palling around with 60's radical!
It's just so sad that this man I once actually admired has been reduced to such a caricature of himself, reduced to character assassination by association because he's so desperate. |
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springfeverish wrote:Wow, I may have to change my vote to McCain now. |
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Madeleine Albright's response to Sarah Palin using her quote----incorrectly:
At a rally on Saturday in California, Sarah Palin offered up a rather jarring argument for supporting the Republican ticket.
"There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women," the Alaska Governor said, claiming she was quoting former
Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
The statement came after Palin had recounted a "providential" moment she experienced on Saturday: "I'm reading on my Starbucks mocha cup, okay? The quote of the day... It was Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State [crowd boos] and UN ambassador. ... Now she said it, I didn't. She said, 'There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women.'" Actually, Albright didn't say that. The accurate quote is, "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't help other women." (Sources made the same point to CBS's Scott Conroy.) Palin seemed to realize that the line could be viewed as grating. As the audience cheered, she remarked: "Okay, now, thank you so much for receiving that well. I didn't know how that was gonna go over. And now, California, let's see what a comment like I just made, how that is turned into whatever it'll be turned into tomorrow with the newspaper." Albright responded to Palin's remarks in a statement to the Huffington Post on Sunday. "Though I am flattered that Governor Palin has chosen to cite me as a source of wisdom, what I said had nothing to do with politics. This is yet another example of McCain and Palin distorting the truth, and all the more reason to remember that this campaign is not about gender, it is about which candidate has an agenda that will improve the lives of all Americans, including women. The truth is, if you care about the status of women in our society and in our troubled economy, the best choice by far is Obama-Biden." |
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