cantthinkofaname wrote:Apparently so, unfortunately. Maybe to save time and hassle, we should just laminate a P next to all of Sugar's ratings until she's booted.
So are we just disregarding Sugar's awful challenge performance?
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cantthinkofaname wrote:Apparently so, unfortunately. Maybe to save time and hassle, we should just laminate a P next to all of Sugar's ratings until she's booted. |
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craig wrote:My negativity to most players ? Let's see, AT LEAST SIX of the first eight boots should receive a negative tone rating in their overall ratings. Then we have current negative nellies in Crystal AND RANDY (sorry Randy fan club members) plus the probable turn of Corinne into the new bitch of the season. Who do we have to cheer for ? Bob. Matty. Sugar. Marcus ? Charlie ? So maybe five out of eighteen ? Not good. Who do we have to cheer against ? Ace. Randy. Crystal. GC. Kelly. Michelle. Gillian. Corinne. Paloma. Ken ? Susie ? Dan ? So maybe twelve out of eighteen ? Not good. Randy IS NOT WINNING Craig. Sorry. P.S. And Randy was mean to Kelly after the pastry RC, so there. |
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Ooooooooooooooooo, I think you're really getting a little too far with the Randy hatred. This is like that stuff with Crystal last week. It's
unnecessary.
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Nobody awake yet ?
Bob OTTP2 Dan OTT2 Susie MOR2 Corinne OTTN4 Marcus CPP4 Randy MORN2 Charlie UTR2 Ace MOR3 Sugar CPM4 Crystal OTTN3 Ken CPP3 Matty MORM4 |
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Oowatanite |
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Kitty Pryde1 wrote: So you think that Randy's winning ?
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I think if Marcus is medevaced at the final 4 after getting his arm chopped off while saving a school of orphaned dolphins (only possible way he's going
home), then yes, Randy will win.
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And sorry if I get cranky at times, but someone has to carry the heavy mantle of CC in this thread. |
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TheLurkerSpeaks |
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Oowatanite wrote: Oow: FWIW, I rated Randy N in each of the first 3 episodes. In the context of the edit of the whole episode, I didn't take Corinne's stab comment seriously. I can understand other people giving her an N. You rated Mattie M in tone - what did you see in his edit this episode that was P? |
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Kitty Pryde1 |
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First Watch Ratings:
Ace - MORN3 Crystal - OTTM4 Ken - CP3 Matty - MORN3 Sugar - CP4 Bob - OTTP2 Charlie - UTR1 Corinne - OTTN4 Dan - MORP2 Marcus - CP3 Randy - MOR3 Susie - MORN2 |
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Brazil Luvs Ami |
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first impressions
Bob - OTTP2 Charlie - UTR1 Corinne - CP4 Dan - CP/MOR2 Marcus - CP/MORP4 ( I didn't get the complexity in his edit, just the bland confessionals, as usual) Randy - MORN2 Susie - OTTM2 (Mixed because I thought she was positive in the reward, she got her confessional there) Ace - MORN3 Crystal - MOR/CP4 Ken - CP3 Matty - MORN4 Sugar - CPP4 Winner: Marcus |
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I'll do ratings tonight.
Oo, be yourself, not CC. I don't want to hate you! :-) TLS, I would be surprised if most people were happy Crystal survived. I think many viewers had Matty's reaction when voting, after she spills the rice, pouts, etc. She needs to go but she's still around. Good editing to keep eyes on her. But root for her to stay? No. Michael |
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A few general comments -
Ace's boot episode reminded me of Rob C's boot in ASS. The great manipulator and "best player to not win" became worried, and almost
begging. "We're still pals, right...?" Same with Ace. It was a pretty lame edit for him, and even his conversation at the dock with Sugar was
more about how Ken (cleverly) got into Sugar's head than about Ace's cleverness. At first, when Ken was telling Sugar how Ace was gunning for her I
thought he was laying it on way to thick, like when Ken said something like, "mark my word, Ace will try and get the HII from you again," ... and
then Ace did exactly that... my gosh, it made Ken seem rather bright. The question I'm still wondering is - was this the right choice for Sugar? I
don't know. I don't think so - Ace really wanted to take Sugar far. He viewed the HII as a weapon for use by the entire alliance (with him in charge,
of course). Is there anyone left who will view Sugar and her HII with such equanimity, who won't view her as a threat? No, she's now without an ally.
Matty doesn't think much of her... nobody does.
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TheLurkerSpeaks |
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OTH,
That may be, but I do not think that is the intent of the editing. The reality may be that Crystal was extremely difficult to put up with, but the editing has still handled that reality with kid gloves. Sure she has come off badly anyway, but she's always been given a chance to provide us with her viewpoint that mitigates the negativity to some degree. Ken's confessional made it seem like Ace and Matty were picking on Crystal unjustly - reality or not, that carries weight, and the inclusion of harsh confessionals from Ace and Matty reinforces that perception. And Sugar's pronouncement at TC brushed all three of Crystal, Matty, and Ace with the "petty bickering" brush, not just Crystal. And the editors even have Jeff give his blessing to Ace's boot in saying Fang is finally playing the game. (This follows up Jeff's praising of passion - primarily related to Crystal - at the last TC.) I'm not saying the editing is making Crystal positive, but they are not going out of their way to make her negative either. Sometimes the editing works, and sometimes it doesn't. Obviously, there are large numbers of posters here who are actively rooting against Crystal, which is fine as long as they keep it out of their Edgic ratings. But even if Crystal comes across as negative, we are definitely meant to side with Ken this episode and with Sugar getting out from under Ace's thumb. Ace was a cool villain, but he was still the villain. |
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Really it's ridiculous that there are 5 Fangs around and they have a chance to take control. Losers like Crystal and Susie remain while Jacquie got screwed.I dont' understand why you are so in love with the original Kotas. I mean I get tired of players like Marcus just flying through the game with ease. |
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scepticA |
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TLS, I think Ken's confessional about Matty/Ace were more of the "They're a powerhouse and that scares me so I have to do something" rather than "those bullies are picking on poor Crystal." I'll rewatch, but that was the definite impression I got. And yes, Sugar is out from under the thumb of Ace. But he was protection for her at least in the short run. Who will view her and the HII as a positive? No one. Sugar is on her own, and I suspect that when she's booted she'll have a nice souvenir of her time on Survivor neatly wrapped and unused in her backpack. |
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FANG
Crystal - MORN4 Sugar - CPM4 Ace - MORM3 Matty - MORN4 Kenny - CPP4 KOTA Corinne - OTTN4 Susie - MORM2 Marucs - CPP4 Randy - OTTN2 Dan - OTTM2 Bob - OTTP3 Charlie - UTR1 |
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ncassaro wrote:Doubt for the winner is rarely introduced until after the merge. Parvati got some time as a potential boot target in Micro because people were actually tossing around the idea of voting her out, but the editors can't create a story that isn't there at all. Marcus has been to two TC's, and one he had immunity. Do you really think anyone targeted him at the Paloma boot? The winner doesn't need doubt until later, and I'm sure he'll get the perfect amount. We have to remember that to the casual viewer he isn't so obvious. Seyz wrote:The theory of shown alliances has steadily decayed since Romber made F2. Like you said, many shown alliances have flown right to the end; Todd, Courtney and Amanda were even spotlighted as a F3 and there they were, F3. Same with Parvati, Cirie and Amanda. Edgic isn't saying that the Onions are the F3, we're just saying that Marcus wins. I say "we" in the sense of the 95%+ who support Marcus' winner edit. Oowatanite wrote:I thought that Sugar's poor RC performance was effectively negated by her IC performance, with comments from Jeff about how she did well. Also, she was edited as a successful strategist in "her" ouster of Ace. I thought Matty's comments were contradicted by Jeff's at the IC, and that she earned enough brownie points in making a supposed power play that she merits a P. |
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TheLurkerSpeaks |
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Sure (regarding Sugar), sceptic, but that's reality. The editing is still praising the move.
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