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9RedWing19 wrote:

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Oowatanite wrote:

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RW, how does Kelly rate another OTTN ? Especially when Crystal doesn't get even an M ? This was probably Kelly's best edited episode, simply due to the fact that Probst AGREED with her for once. And Ace's "zinger" only reflects badly on him, not Kelly.

Randy had nothing but his poor sportsmanship. If he's not OTTN, he's UTRN.

Susie was UTR1. There will be no battle (I hope).

First I'm "old-school" Edgic and have never adopted the M (but had I adopted it, it would be appropriate for Crystal this episode).

But you have adopted the INV rating, you "old-school edgician".



Kelly OTTN - well she had little storyline about herself this episode; we had more from her on how Crystal sucks and how Crystal's t.ears were a sign of her being unstable. Kelly was noted by JP as doing poorly in the first leg of the IC, and she was the consensus boot target at the beginning of the plotting sequences before TC. I found nothing remotely positive about her edit (yes she was right about her comment about lack of teamwork, but that reflects badly on all members of the tribe, including her, so I don't see it necessarily as a positive for her edit, but simply reinforcing the "bad Fang" storyline), and enough negatives to warrant an N. OTT because her storyline was simplified - we know next to nothing about her, and what we do know isn't very good (hence my comment that it is a contender for one of the 10 worst edits ever, worst in the sense of hatchet-job).

I agree that Kelly has received one of the worst THREE edits in Survivor history. And Ace did agree with Kelly about Crystal's instability, comparing her to GC during their little walk & talk. Her storyline was not that simple this episode nor was it that negative. MORM is the correct rating, since Probst did praise Kelly's start under the webbing, as well as agreeing with her at TC that the Fangs needed to work better together as a team - "Kelly nailed it on the head".



Randy did have the confessional about Dan being annoying and that it might be in Randy's interests to put more distance between himself and Dan (followed by a scene where Randy appeared to be encouraging Dan to eat more of the RC treats). That pushed Randy to MOR for me, but it is not a rating that I feel that strongly about.

Randy's repeated poor sportsmanship more than offset the comment about Dan. OTTN for sure.

SerenaSS7 wrote recently broke into the computer room of that mental institution again:

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