S-17 Edgic (editing and logic) Gabon

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Phoenix1269		#2221	[-]
Posts: 260 (11/06/08 10:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ncassaro wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) I don't see Sugar winning. It's either Crystal or Ken after this IMO. i'm not sure about any of them...i'll be looking at some of my rating again over the next couple of days... but i do think it is one of Matty Sugar Ken and Crystal... my point was, that we have had several close calls this year that have been heavily debated, and whether the ratings are officially re-examined or re-examined by individuals as they see fit... there are places in some edits that may have been overlooked. The 2 listed above were the first 2 that came to mind. I suppose i could have rummaged around for all of Randy's tone close calls, but it didn't seem necessary...
colleenlover		#2222	[-]
Posts: 8676 (11/06/08 10:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I still think Sugar is going to be Ozzy. The Matt/Sugar union is going to go far, the NuFang Ken prophecy is going to go far. Susie will probably last long enough to vote Corrine out. Charlie is going to get a one episode plotting overload episode. Randy and Cystal will meet back up with her getting the last laugh. next out, Bob? If there's a merge, Randy or Corrine?
The Purple Parrot		#2223	[-]
Posts: 7585 (11/06/08 10:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Didn't Tina have like... children swinging on a swingset in the background? Even though she was "inv", I just remember her being there. Vee I once again had a gut feeling about in the first episode of Marquesas. By midseason Kathy, Tammy, and Neleh were throwing me though. I'm really not trying to brag or whatever, just stating the feelings I got at the time.... I've been way off at times too... I never ever ever thought Jenna would win Amazon.
Phoenix1269		#2224	[-]
Posts: 261 (11/06/08 10:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: I still think Sugar is going to be Ozzy. it does appear that way.... just curious though... has anyone else, ever recieved so much attention on exile...after the idol has been found? Generally, a lot of attention on those who are looking, before it's found.... but then not much (Think Adam and Candace)... she's received so much attention there... probably a distraction, but it's just weird.
scepticA		#2225	[-]
Posts: 1422 (11/06/08 10:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	"I just looked at her and chose her." Oh. I thought you were doing something - you know - smart. Never mind.
NickF227		#2226	[-]
Posts: 5060 (11/06/08 10:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Phoenix1269 wrote: colleenlover wrote: I still think Sugar is going to be Ozzy. it does appear that way.... just curious though... has anyone else, ever recieved so much attention on exile...after the idol has been found? Generally, a lot of attention on those who are looking, before it's found.... but then not much (Think Adam and Candace)... she's received so much attention there... probably a distraction, but it's just weird. She IS one of the best personalities this season, so either she is F3 and/or they just want to use her personality for entertainment.
9RedWing19		#2227	[-]
Posts: 2277 (11/06/08 10:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bob: UTR1 With the benefit of hindsight, had the most prophetic comment at TC about voting Dan versus Susie. Charlie: UTR1 A couple of confessionals, but still without his own storyline . Corinne: MOR2 I don't think this will improve her opinion of Susie. Crystal: CP4 This would have been N had Marcus not gone, because her words would have been thrown back in her face. Another brutal challenge performance. Ken: MOR3 It would not have been a huge episode for a boot episode, but then again boot episodes in recent seasons have not always been huge. Marcus: CP5 Is there an emoticon for "I'm speechless"? Matty: CP4 A lot of game talk that presumably will have pay-off down the road. Randy: MOR3 The whole King of Gabon preview ended up being inconsequential - damn, fooled by the previews again. Sugar: UTR2 I wonder how Ace feels knowing that she suffers from voter's remorse. Susie: OTTN4 When you boil it all down, she was edited as a backstabber. She wanted to be Top 3, Marcus explained how she could make it there with him, we saw nothing on how she would achieve that goal by voting Marcus. Simplified edit, one theme, hence OTT. Winner: Marcus. In a surprise twist, jury members will be allowed to vote for another jury member. If that doesn't happen, let's look at the remaining 9. Original Kota (Bob, Charlie, Sugar, Corinne) all have INVs and only Sugar has a respectable storyline to this point. It however was centred around Ace, and she was essentially MIA in the first 2 episodes. So that leaves us with the winner coming from original Fang. Of those, Susie ain't winning. That leaves us with Crystal, Ken, Mattie and Randy. Of these 4, I'm going with Ken. Last Edited By: 9RedWing19 11/06/08 11:08 PM. Edited 4 times.
colleenlover		#2228	[-]
Posts: 8677 (11/06/08 10:49 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I just think if Sugar won, in the first episode we'd get more fuller confessionals about her fear of wild animals and the water. Just a hair more. And a soundbyte when she was picked. The later "don't know how to play this game, but I'm learning" and Probst, "dig deep." (not to mention Bob, Corrine, Ace's talk about her not winning indicates her outlasting all of them and surprising) but the first episode could have been tweaked just a little bit more. It's time to go back to that first episode. NuFang all seems wrapped up in one another -Ken vs. Matty; Crystal vs. Sugar, the hidden idol, Sugar isn't dumb; Matty vs. Sugar -yet trumped by all of them "cleaning the slate." All thier problems fixed. And logically, Sugar and Matty knew the three (Corrine, Charlie and Randy are against them) and Ken/Cystal have stronger story ties to Sugar/Matty than Susie. I just think Ken's "final four" wasn't presented like Marcus' -and he's been shown to be constantly humble. I will not be surprised to see Ken,Sugar,Matty and Cystal as the final four. Fine by me -and a fun pagong ride too.
ncassaro		#2229	[-]
Posts: 228 (11/06/08 11:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Looking back, if anything should have been a clue about Marcus, it was the fake teardrop after the Paloma boot.
9RedWing19		#2230	[-]
Posts: 2279 (11/06/08 11:02 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) Not a big fan of revisionism (it never looks the same when you know the answer). IMO, Sugar is not worth debating (if she won after her edit in Eps 1 and 2, we'd have to seriously consider closing up shop).
9RedWing19		#2231	[-]
Posts: 2280 (11/06/08 11:05 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ncassaro wrote: Looking back, if anything should have been a clue about Marcus, it was the fake teardrop after the Paloma boot. When you know the answer, it's easy to interpret the clues. On the other hand, would they ever show a winner saying "Bitch" the way Todd did (I didn't think so at the time, but I was wrong). And there are many red herrings scattered among the clues ...
NickF227		#2232	[-]
Posts: 5062 (11/06/08 11:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	9RedWing19 wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) Not a big fan of revisionism (it never looks the same when you know the answer). IMO, Sugar is not worth debating (if she won after her edit in Eps 1 and 2, we'd have to seriously consider closing up shop). Why? It was just a weak-Danniesque opener. The INV...I dunno, maybe the editors just wanted to hide her?
9RedWing19		#2233	[-]
Posts: 2281 (11/06/08 11:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	NickF227 wrote: 9RedWing19 wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) Not a big fan of revisionism (it never looks the same when you know the answer). IMO, Sugar is not worth debating (if she won after her edit in Eps 1 and 2, we'd have to seriously consider closing up shop). Why? It was just a weak-Danniesque opener. The INV...I dunno, maybe the editors just wanted to hide her? Danni was UTR2 and MOR2 in the first 2 episodes - no comparison, IMO.
NickF227		#2234	[-]
Posts: 5064 (11/06/08 11:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	9RedWing19 wrote: NickF227 wrote: 9RedWing19 wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) Not a big fan of revisionism (it never looks the same when you know the answer). IMO, Sugar is not worth debating (if she won after her edit in Eps 1 and 2, we'd have to seriously consider closing up shop). Why? It was just a weak-Danniesque opener. The INV...I dunno, maybe the editors just wanted to hide her? Danni was UTR2 and MOR2 in the first 2 episodes - no comparison, IMO. Well, Sugar's opener was UTR2, and so was Danni's.... But yeah, the INV. Oops. I have homework. And it's late. Night.
BlakeB717		#2235	[-]
Posts: 1080 (11/06/08 11:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	However to the rest of you, i laugh at you. I think most of you bought into the bullshit that was fed to you at the very beginning when we had the commercial with marcus in it and then the sneak peek at the intro, I think somehow that perpetuated into Marcus wins and then all of edgic adopted that mentality without any real basis behind it. That then blinded you from looking into other possibilities thinking that Marcus had it all wrapped up.. Just to make mention of this, that would have been a reason to NOT support Marcus, so your opinion makes zero sense. Goodbye to you! Winners? 1. Kenny 2. Matty 3. Randy I'd bank on Ken Sugar Matty being in the finale.
cantthinkofaname		#2236	[-]
Posts: 1232 (11/06/08 11:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ok before I read any other posts, I just wanna say: I knew those editors would catch on. (obviously that not very probable but it's an interesting thought). Well good thing I didn't put all my eggs in one basket with Marcus. I learned my lesson after being wrong in China. I guess Ken is our winner then.
fat little fingers		#2237	[-]
Posts: 5714 (11/06/08 11:35 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For those who've decided that it's now open season on speculating, there is a whole Spec Forum out there to launch your opinions. Go open a thread and post to your heart's content. As for Edgic: Perfect (-ly boring) Marcus gone does open things up: I think INV will hold, so Charley, Corinne, Susie, and Sugar would still be off the table. Crystal has four N's in a row, of which two are OTTs. She's also been Vis 4s and 5s thru the last five eps. Too many Ns, too many OTTs and too much visibility to be on my list. Bob is Mr.OTTP, and as flat a character as we can get. Not on my list. That leaves Randy, Matty, and Ken. With Bore-cus gone, these are the players who still fall within the guidelines. They also fit the newer expectations of no INVs and having Ep1 opening segment confessionals. These are the three on my list as I rewatch this week's ep.
I LUV TIJUANA		#2238	[-]
Posts: 11776 (11/07/08 12:23 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Everyone left other than Randy has had at least one weak episode (INV1 or UTR1). A debatable difference of whether they were invisible or not shouldn't determine their ability to be a potential winner. Just saying.
ncassaro		#2239	[-]
Posts: 230 (11/07/08 12:24 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	NickF227 wrote: 9RedWing19 wrote: NickF227 wrote: 9RedWing19 wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: so.... in light of recent developments... any chance of revisiting some of the closer, close calls.... like Sugar's episode 3 OTT (close call with a deserved CP) or Matty's episode 6 OTT (another close call with a deserved CP)??? ;) just a thought... but mostly joking... ;) Not a big fan of revisionism (it never looks the same when you know the answer). IMO, Sugar is not worth debating (if she won after her edit in Eps 1 and 2, we'd have to seriously consider closing up shop). Why? It was just a weak-Danniesque opener. The INV...I dunno, maybe the editors just wanted to hide her? Danni was UTR2 and MOR2 in the first 2 episodes - no comparison, IMO. Well, Sugar's opener was UTR2, and so was Danni's.... But yeah, the INV. Oops. I have homework. And it's late. Night. lol, I did mine in preparation for survivor. It's due Friday at 11:55 PM and I finished it Wednesday circa 10:00 PM so I wouldn't have to worry about it during survivor. I'm officially a nerd.
I LUV TIJUANA		#2240	[-]
Posts: 11777 (11/07/08 12:37 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I LUV TIJUANA wrote: Everyone left other than Randy has had at least one weak episode (INV1 or UTR1). A debatable difference of whether they were invisible or not shouldn't determine their ability to be a potential winner. Just saying. Sorry, everyone other than Randy and Crystal.

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