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TobyWan		#4261	[-]
Posts: 122 (09/08/08 7:59 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: Well, judging from what I've read on this board, she's pretty much taken to her bed and given up -----wouldn't that make her look like the better person to play in the final rounds?? I think Dan and Memphis' odds are good against either Keesha or Jerry in competitions. Memphis thinks they're slightly better against Jerry. I don't think he's using faulty logic. It's like a 51/49 situation with Keesha/Jerry and who knows which side those two percentage points will play to in the final 3? Also, Peepaw is a better insurance policy for him at the end. Memphis is all about The Renegades, but it's not a bad idea to carry the person who would take you to final 2 if by some FLUKE they win the final comps. ITA. Logic sucks sometimes. The only hope for not seeing Jerritol in the F3, I think, is if Memphis is blindsided by Tuesday's eviction and can't bring himself to evict her without warning. Not much of a chance, though...Memphis is keeping his eye on the prize and I think he'll stick to the plan regardless.
diewinelle		#4262	[-]
Posts: 10473 (09/08/08 8:00 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	again, the problem with keesha is she may not continue being checked out. she can't possibly assume either of them would take her to the end. she's coasting now because she DOES believe they're keeping her over pepaw. but even in tip top shape, she hasn't exactly been a standout in the comps---even in the ones she won. one thing pepaw said last night made my blood run cold. he hopes more old people will apply for the show after being 'inspired' by him. if that bitch starts sticking the random nursing home resident in every cast, i'll hate him even more.
Wisspy		#4263	[-]
Posts: 825 (09/08/08 8:00 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think d/m have a better chance of winning F2 against Keesha.....they could outlast her in endurance for sure and when it comes to mental, Dan could def kick her ass. The boys using the comps as their logic makes no sense to me. Jerry proved he knows his BB shit when he pulled that HOH out of his ass a couple of weeks ago - that is the risk and that is what could end the Renegades.
gwendolay		#4264	[-]
Posts: 595 (09/08/08 8:00 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TobyWan wrote: Logic sucks sometimes. The only hope for not seeing Jerritol in the F3, I think, is if Memphis is blindsided by Tuesday's eviction and can't bring himself to evict her without warning. Not much of a chance, though...Memphis is keeping his eye on the prize and I think he'll stick to the plan regardless. I wonder if Memphis realizes he'll have to look her in the eye as he evicts her? I mean, he's not playing an emotional game but that's still gotta make you feel like shit.
anders332		#4265	[-]
Posts: 638 (09/08/08 8:02 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: Well, judging from what I've read on this board, she's pretty much taken to her bed and given up -----wouldn't that make her look like the better person to play in the final rounds?? I think Dan and Memphis' odds are good against either Keesha or Jerry in competitions. Memphis thinks they're slightly better against Jerry. I don't think he's using faulty logic. It's like a 51/49 situation with Keesha/Jerry and who knows which side those two percentage points will play to in the final 3? Also, Peepaw is a better insurance policy for him at the end. Memphis is all about The Renegades, but it's not a bad idea to carry the person who would take you to final 2 if by some FLUKE they win the final comps. I was totally on board a week or so ago, when the idea of keeping Jerry over Keesha for the F3 was brought up, I figured it was the smarter choice comp wise - but now that it's here it's hard to swallow that he's dumping someone who saved his ass week 4. Anyway-------he could also have a solid F2 deal with Keesha if he really wanted it - she would be putty in his hands......I think it's a macho/ego thing - no way does he want to lose any comps to a girl.
moviegirl11		#4266	[-]
Posts: 2453 (09/08/08 8:04 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	anders332 wrote: moviegirl11 wrote: I dont know that Memphis believed Jerry's "some random people I'm not going to list by name said they'd automatically vote for a woman" thing and that's why he's booting Keesha. It's not like they dont know Jerry lies so I seriously doubt that had much if anything to do with his decision. I think he sees Keesha as having a better chance at winning the final HoH than Jerry and he's not sure enough that Keesha would take him to the end over Dan whereas IF Jerry were to win the final HoH, it's almost a lock that he'd take Memphis over Dan. So he's going with the odds and the fact that Jerry's an emotional man who would rather prove himself right than win half a million dollars. Well, judging from what I've read on this board, she's pretty much taken to her bed and given up -----wouldn't that make her look like the better person to play in the final rounds?? Sure but if she DOES win he probably isnt sure that she'd take him to the final 2. With Jerry, no matter how long the odds are that he could win (I dont think its as unlikely as Dan/Memphis seem to think it is but whatever), if he does win he'll probably take Memphis. So in Memphis' head, better to keep the person most likely to take you to the final two than to keep the person you can probably beat in the last HoH but might not take you if they win it.
anders332		#4267	[-]
Posts: 639 (09/08/08 8:05 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wisspy wrote: I think d/m have a better chance of winning F2 against Keesha.....they could outlast her in endurance for sure and when it comes to mental, Dan could def kick her ass. The boys using the comps as their logic makes no sense to me. Jerry proved he knows his BB shit when he pulled that HOH out of his ass a couple of weeks ago - that is the risk and that is what could end the Renegades. ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point.
Wisspy		#4268	[-]
Posts: 826 (09/08/08 8:07 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	My problem with Keesha was how she handled yesterday's alone time with Memphis. I understand she thinks she's safe, but always "expect the unexpected"....never, ever stop playing the game and always, always have your game face on. Keesha sleeping all day instead of stepping her game up with Memphis was a bad, bad decision....she has said many times that nobody is ever safe in the house, so why would she make that fucked up assumption now? Chances are her talking game all day with Memphis wouldn't have changed a thing, but I would have given her props for putting up a fight.
gwendolay		#4269	[-]
Posts: 596 (09/08/08 8:09 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	anders332 wrote: ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point. What has Memphis ever said that would lead you to believe he doesn't want to lose to a girl? I've been missing this sexist side of Memphis all these weeks.
moviegirl11		#4270	[-]
Posts: 2454 (09/08/08 8:11 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point. What has Memphis ever said that would lead you to believe he doesn't want to lose to a girl? I've been missing this sexist side of Memphis all these weeks. Yeah I haven't gotten that impression either.
Wisspy		#4271	[-]
Posts: 827 (09/08/08 8:11 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point. What has Memphis ever said that would lead you to believe he doesn't want to lose to a girl? I've been missing this sexist side of Memphis all these weeks. I don't think it has anything to do with gender....it's totally game. Memphis knows he is secure with either Dan or Jerry.
anders332		#4272	[-]
Posts: 640 (09/08/08 8:12 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point. What has Memphis ever said that would lead you to believe he doesn't want to lose to a girl? I've been missing this sexist side of Memphis all these weeks. no proof - just a hunch. but I do recall a convo between him and Dan where he said "I'm not losing to HER" - whether that was in a context that was sexist or not only he knows for sure, but it sure sounded like it to me......
AeroChild		#4273	[-]
Posts: 15835 (09/08/08 8:14 AM) BB Moderator More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think it's one thing for "the boys" to be joking around about losing to "a girl". It's quite another to have someone like Jerry actively campaigning so that a girl doesn't have a shot.
anders332		#4274	[-]
Posts: 641 (09/08/08 8:15 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wisspy wrote: gwendolay wrote: anders332 wrote: ITA - as I just stated , I think it's an ego thing for Memphis - no way does he want to chance losing anything to a girl at this point. What has Memphis ever said that would lead you to believe he doesn't want to lose to a girl? I've been missing this sexist side of Memphis all these weeks. I don't think it has anything to do with gender....it's totally game. Memphis knows he is secure with either Dan or Jerry. and if he wanted that security from Keesha - he could've and would've gotten it, if he really wanted to......he only brought up the deal thing when Dan put his ass on the block and he needed to make sure she'd keep him - he never intended to actually make a F2 deal with her. He first referred to it as an agreement, not a deal. Don't get me wrong, I like Memphis and I don't think he's a male chauvanist pig, but I think it's the dude thing in him and I do want him to take the top prize, I don't care who he's sitting next to.
TobyWan		#4275	[-]
Posts: 123 (09/08/08 8:17 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gwendolay wrote: TobyWan wrote: Logic sucks sometimes. The only hope for not seeing Jerritol in the F3, I think, is if Memphis is blindsided by Tuesday's eviction and can't bring himself to evict her without warning. Not much of a chance, though...Memphis is keeping his eye on the prize and I think he'll stick to the plan regardless. I wonder if Memphis realizes he'll have to look her in the eye as he evicts her? I mean, he's not playing an emotional game but that's still gotta make you feel like shit. Yeah...that's the one thing that may save her (and not that I particularly like her except that I like her a whole lot better than peepaw, ya know, and wouldn't actually have to throw up at F2 if she were there.). Memphis doesn't seem to be cold-hearted (e.g. he doesn't want to take pervy peepaw's $4000 even tho he hates peepaw), so when push comes to shove...
I LUV TIJUANA		#4276	[-]
Posts: 11333 (09/08/08 8:18 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wisspy wrote: My problem with Keesha was how she handled yesterday's alone time with Memphis. I understand she thinks she's safe, but always "expect the unexpected"....never, ever stop playing the game and always, always have your game face on. Keesha sleeping all day instead of stepping her game up with Memphis was a bad, bad decision....she has said many times that nobody is ever safe in the house, so why would she make that fucked up assumption now? Chances are her talking game all day with Memphis wouldn't have changed a thing, but I would have given her props for putting up a fight. Well, while I agree she didn't talk to Memphis enough. He has told her time and time again that she is safe. Why he's leading her on, I'm not quite sure, maybe he really hasn't come to a complete decision yet. He's making the wrong choice, and someone needs to show him that.
MacKosNak		#4277	[-]
Posts: 98 (09/08/08 8:19 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tdugan333 wrote: Most of the veterans or active military I know would die rather than allow someone to call them by a rank they hadn't achieved. Yeah okay that's reaching, but..... I second this. In fact, the only person I knew who insisted he be called Captain was an old fart neighbor when I was growing up and my dad would laugh at in our home since the guy had only been in the reserves at a time when the reserves were never called to active duty. This old fart had such an ego and was so pompous even to little kids who did not know the meaning of the word pompous.
anders332		#4278	[-]
Posts: 642 (09/08/08 8:20 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TobyWan wrote: gwendolay wrote: TobyWan wrote: Logic sucks sometimes. The only hope for not seeing Jerritol in the F3, I think, is if Memphis is blindsided by Tuesday's eviction and can't bring himself to evict her without warning. Not much of a chance, though...Memphis is keeping his eye on the prize and I think he'll stick to the plan regardless. I wonder if Memphis realizes he'll have to look her in the eye as he evicts her? I mean, he's not playing an emotional game but that's still gotta make you feel like shit. Yeah...that's the one thing that may save her (and not that I particularly like her except that I like her a whole lot better than peepaw, ya know, and wouldn't actually have to throw up at F2 if she were there.). Memphis doesn't seem to be cold-hearted (e.g. he doesn't want to take pervy peepaw's $4000 even tho he hates peepaw), so when push comes to shove... Doesn't DR/BB make them lock in their vote before eviction time?? I remember Adam saying that last season that DR was pressuring him to make a decision (between Sharon and Sheila??)
diewinelle		#4279	[-]
Posts: 10474 (09/08/08 8:22 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MacKosNak wrote: I second this. In fact, the only person I knew who insisted he be called Captain was an old fart neighbor when I was growing up and my dad would laugh at in our home since the guy had only been in the reserves at a time when the reserves were never called to active duty. This old fart had such an ego and was so pompous even to little kids who did not know the meaning of the word pompous. this reminds me of the 'seinfeld' episode with 'maestro.'
moviegirl11		#4280	[-]
Posts: 2455 (09/08/08 8:24 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	anders332 wrote: and if he wanted that security from Keesha - he could've and would've gotten it, if he really wanted to......he only brought up the deal thing when Dan put his ass on the block and he needed to make sure she'd keep him - he never intended to actually make a F2 deal with her. He first referred to it as an agreement, not a deal. Don't get me wrong, I like Memphis and I don't think he's a male chauvanist pig, but I think it's the dude thing in him and I do want him to take the top prize, I don't care who he's sitting next to. ??? Didn't me make the (official) final 2 deal with her when he was assuring her that he was keeping her safe even though he was taking Dan off the block with the Veto last week? I thought that was pretty intentional. And I dont think there's any "dude thing" between Memphis and Jerry. Not at all. He likes Keesha and dislikes Jerry. Memphis has never proven to play emotionally in the BB house so I dont see why anyone would have any reason to assume that all of a sudden he's decided to start now.. Voting to evict Keesha is strategic and has nothing to do with gender.

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