Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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jensamember36		#881	[-]
Posts: 1697 (10/10/08 4:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	could it be that the person who gave their info to SF or whoever got the spoiler info just said a cute inv blond gets voted off, and since well they are both pretty much the same there could have been confusion Last Edited By: jensamember36 10/10/08 5:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
MMan9000		#882	[-]
Posts: 70 (10/10/08 5:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Perhaps Fang decides to vote GC off at the next tribal council? The previews seem to indicate that he is in serious trouble. Assuming Fang loses again, they could get rid of Kelly (weaker than Ken). The third tribal council, they attempt to vote off Sugar or Ace, but they play the idol, sending Ken packing. I can see Dan being the merge victim. Assuming that the original Kota has majority in an early F11 merge (Marcus, Charlie, Corinne, Ace, Sugar, and Bob) they could pick off who they presume is the leader, that being Dan. Next, they would eliminate Matty (the MVP of the Fang tribe). With there being only three Fang left (Susie, Crystal, and Randy), Ace and Sugar could jump ship and aid them in picking off the Kota tribe (Bob, Marcus, Charlie, and Corinne). They would get rid of Crystal first (Randy and Susie don't like her that much, and Ace and Sugar could capitalize on that). At the Final Four, Susie would be eliminated for being more likable than Randy (and a bitter Kota could vote for her just for being an "underdog"), leaving a final three of Ace, Sugar, and Randy. Who knows who would be the good and who would be the evil in this scenario. Perhaps it's not one particular alliance, but different alliances throughout the season... Lord, I need to stop speculating. Of course, it is fun, and it gives me something to do with my lacking life.
sunflower101		#883	[-]
Posts: 3769 (10/10/08 5:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PleasantMama wrote: So does Matty's unseen swearing on his girlfriend to Ace indicate that he abandoned old tribal lines immediately upon the switch for whatever clearly-has-no-grip-on-Survivor-gameplay reason and in what sense could that ever be conveyed as honest? Stupid, reckless, unthinking, pathetically poor gameplay okay, but honest? It probably has to do with the fact he feels like he can't trust GC/Crystal/Ken. Remember he was in the opposing alliance until the switch. His old alliance is all on the other tribe. I wouldn't trust GC either because he doesn't try in challenges and quit being the leader.
The Very Insane Shark		#884	[-]
Posts: 3917 (10/10/08 5:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The third tribal council, they attempt to vote off Sugar or Ace, but they play the idol, sending Ken packing. Let's not forget that the original Fangs will already know about Sugar's idol by that point. The teasers confirm that they go through her bag next episode and find it.
mtj1282		#885	[-]
Posts: 1615 (10/10/08 5:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: Dan appears to be the only pre-merge boot we have set in stone due to his myspace pictures. He could be picked off at a late Kota TC, or be a victim of an early merge. Both are plausible. I see 2 possible scenarios for the next sequence of TCs. We have Sfever's vulnerabilities, which indicate Kelly, GC, and Ken are in danger. (Along with Dan) We also have Jeff's "Good Vs Evil" scenario, which seems to have started to emerge this episode with the boot of Jackie over Kelly. The problem for me comes from the fact that Matty/Ace/Sugar surviving Fang would be a "good guys win" scenario, when we already seem to have Kota as our "Love Tribe." It's also possible Good v Evil emerges as a theme later, at the merge. But these are the two scenarios I can potentially see playing out in the next week or two. First scenario- Sugar's HII is used at the next Fang TC (Possibly due to Matty ratting the target out), sending home GC, Ken or Kelly. Matty joins with Ace/Sugar and threatens to force a tie, causing Crystal to flip on her alliance and vote out the remaining 2 members in subsequent tribal councils. Second scenario (aka pure spec based on the "Evil" thing.)- Fang goes to TC. The Gang of 4 tells Matty who they're voting out. Matty alerts Ace/Sugar. The Gang of 4 then vote out Matty as Ace or Sugar use the HII, in one of the most ruthless moves in Survivor history. Ken started watching with Cook Islands, so he probably saw the Edgardo blindside. Could be something else entirely, as always. I already asked the following question but never got an answer, one last try: I didnt see the pics and was wondering what it is about the pics that make people think he couldnt have taken them from the jury house?
sunflower101		#886	[-]
Posts: 3770 (10/10/08 5:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mtj1282 wrote: jackie said she would have brought marcus or sugar to final two. She had a secret alliance with ace and sugar and new about the idol. eta:buddytv I am not a GC/Crystal/Ken fan, but they where smart to keep Kelly. Kelly isn't going back to her old tribe once the merge happens. She is someone you can easily pull a long for a vote. Now will Fang be smart enough to still keep her if they lose another challenge. It's smart to keep her if it is close to the merge, but isn't if they still have 3 or 4 more immunity challenges. It depends how close they are too the merge remains to be seen, if that will turn out to be a good move or not. If they still have several immunity challenges before the merge they can't toss Ace or Matty. It's one thing to boot Jaque and keep Kelly, but they can't afford to lose several in a row and risk them having to eat their own alliance. When Aaron was booted it was never the merge.
MMan9000		#887	[-]
Posts: 71 (10/10/08 5:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Perhaps they try to catch them off-guard and hope that they pick the right person to vote out and that the other one plays the idol. Perhaps they make the wrong decision, and Ken is a victim of bad luck.
sunflower101		#888	[-]
Posts: 3771 (10/10/08 5:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Raydawggie wrote: Has it been considered that maybe Kota just doesn't lose? If, as rumored, Kelly, GC, Ken, and Dan are all pre-jury, maybe Kelly leaves due to the idol next week, then Matty flips and GC and Ken go, leaving us with 11. Early merge, and then Dan just gets the Brandon/Jeff/Nick merge boot for bland likable alpha males. Wouldn't Ace and Sugar want to use the idol against someone more of a threat then Kelly?
sunflower101		#889	[-]
Posts: 3772 (10/10/08 5:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Very Insane Shark wrote: The third tribal council, they attempt to vote off Sugar or Ace, but they play the idol, sending Ken packing. Let's not forget that the original Fangs will already know about Sugar's idol by that point. The teasers confirm that they go through her bag next episode and find it. Didn't Probst say their was some dumb idol play this season. Could the Crystal/Ken/GC alliance actually screw up trying to flush out the idol? They know she has it, but Sugar actually uses it in a smart way. Could Sugar/Ace use the idol to take out a week person in Kelly rather then Ken/Crystal/GC, and screw up.
sunflower101		#890	[-]
Posts: 3773 (10/10/08 5:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MMan9000 wrote: Perhaps they try to catch them off-guard and hope that they pick the right person to vote out and that the other one plays the idol. Perhaps they make the wrong decision, and Ken is a victim of bad luck. I said this in another post, but Probst did say their was some dumb idol play this year. I could see Fang finding out about Sugar's idol and being stupid enough to screw up flushing it out.
The Very Insane Shark		#891	[-]
Posts: 3918 (10/10/08 5:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Or it could be as simple as Sugar being careless enough with her idol that Fang finds out about it, and then she falls for their plot to flush it out hook, line and sinker.
birdlady		#892	[-]
Posts: 1567 (10/10/08 6:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	could it be that the person who gave their info to SF or whoever got the spoiler info just said a cute inv blond gets voted off, and since well they are both pretty much the same there could have been confusion Yeah, I was thinking jessiek and Blind Freddy must have gotten some such vague tip, cause it would be weird that they would both overthink a Dan boot in the same way. But the SF bootlist was the same vulnerabilities we've been speccing all along, so I'm thinking they didn't have anything (or anything they found credible).
SurvivorFan429		#893	[-]
Posts: 1303 (10/10/08 6:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Probst has a new blog up. He is "warming to Corinne". He praised Ken's decision to pick Kelly. He doesn't think Matty will win. He can't wait to see what Ace has to say about living at Fang. He bashes the tribe again, badly. He basically says as nice as Jacquie was, it was good to lose her because she didn't bring anything as a character. He does think she could have won.
mtj1282		#894	[-]
Posts: 1619 (10/10/08 7:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorFan429 wrote: Probst has a new blog up. He is "warming to Corinne". He praised Ken's decision to pick Kelly. He doesn't think Matty will win. He can't wait to see what Ace has to say about living at Fang. He bashes the tribe again, badly. He basically says as nice as Jacquie was, it was good to lose her because she didn't bring anything as a character. He does think she could have won. Wont be suprised if hes pulling the opposite trick of saying someone wont win when they really do have a chance!
Oowatanite		#895	[-]
Posts: 5998 (10/10/08 9:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SPunKeeMonKee wrote: Jacquie doesn't seem to like Kelly at all in her post-show interviews.. which is funny, considering that they seem to have bonded at LL (judging by the MySpace speculation). I guess that the MySpace spec is just a load of crap. So there goes the main "spoiler" for this season that both Sucks and SF have been hanging their hats on. SF's "vulnerabilities" have been entirely based on the MySpace spec. They have no more of an idea what's gonna happen than us poor slobs on Sucks. And it remains to be seen whether SP has any CBS insider stuff yet. It's wide open this season, unless you closely follow the editing where it's entirely obvious that Marcus wins. But who knows, we might just get another winner out of left field like Danni. Go Kelly !!
James Barber		#896	[-]
Posts: 14267 (10/10/08 9:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In one of the Insider videos, Corinne tells the rest of the tribe she hopes Fang gets rid of Ace. Of course she could just be saying that to Randy/Susie/Dan's faces, but now that Jacquie is gone, there goes the main reason to throw challenges and save those Kota members. I doubt Corinne/Marcus/Charlie/Bob care all that much about saving Kelly, Ace, or Sugar, and that would also mean the idol would be played over at Fang, which would spare the Onions + Bob from having to do that dirty work at the merge if Sugar survives (of course then they'd have to worry about someone else getting the idol, but most of Fang don't seem smart enough to find it). I also don't think that Kota would see Dan as such a huge threat that they'd throw a challenge to get rid of him. So if Kota do go to TC again pre-merge, then I don't think challenge-throwing will be a culprit. Wont be suprised if hes pulling the opposite trick of saying someone wont win when they really do have a chance! Matty does have the Danni edit so far. This is a "who cares" season, I guess a "who cares" winner would be fitting.
Will		#897	[-]
Posts: 30689 (10/10/08 9:28 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Very Insane Shark wrote: Or it could be as simple as Sugar being careless enough with her idol that Fang finds out about it, and then she falls for their plot to flush it out hook, line and sinker. Agreed since Dumb Idol Play would imply the person who has it. If it was about the others fucking up trying to flush it out, it'd be dumb idol reactions. crzypunk2004 wrote: Jacque also was shocked to hear Crystal was an olympic athlete so I think Crystal makes Jury and maybe Kelly. Yay!
Kirblar		#898	[-]
Posts: 6640 (10/10/08 9:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I gotta say, it is really nice to actually be able to speculate and debate again after so many seasons of near-perfect bootlists.
James Barber		#899	[-]
Posts: 14268 (10/10/08 10:02 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah but you know when this season is done people will say the outcome was predictable all along.
RENEGADEOWNAGE		#900	[-]
Posts: 246 (10/10/08 10:04 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunflower101 wrote: MMan9000 wrote: Perhaps they try to catch them off-guard and hope that they pick the right person to vote out and that the other one plays the idol. Perhaps they make the wrong decision, and Ken is a victim of bad luck. I said this in another post, but Probst did say their was some dumb idol play this year. I could see Fang finding out about Sugar's idol and being stupid enough to screw up flushing it out. This is what I always thought the dumb idol play would be. Let's say person A has Immunity and person B has the Idol. Person B makes a fake idol and gives it to person A for Immunity. Person A gives Person B Immunity and plays the fake idol and gets voted off. That would top Erik. Or someone has both Immunity and the idol and gives Immunity away and doesn't play the idol and gets voted off.

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