Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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survivorready		#3121	[-]
Posts: 334 (12/05/08 5:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JFerrero wrote: Yeah, Bob and Corinne's plan was lacking. And why did they try this halfassed scheme on the one guy they think is the smartest Fang member. Why not try it on Matty and Susie? Why even target Matty? If you're down in the numbers everyone's a threat. You vote out whoever people are willing to flip on. Susie already flipped on Marcus. She'd flip again. And Corinne already said Matty's a pushover and let's face it, he's not exactly a Rhodes scholar. So why spring this "brilliant" plan on Kenny? I think Bob and Corrine did the best they could in the situation. Bob and Corrine needed two votes. Now according to you, if they approached Matty and he agrees, they need another vote. Now who else could they ask? There is no way they can approach Sugar or Susie because they both hate Corrine. And there is no way they could tempt Crystal without Kenny knowing because she is strong with Kenny and she doesn't like Matty that much. So I think they did the right thing by approaching Crystal and Kenny. And as we can see from this past episode Kenny is not so "brilliant". He is the only player left that is playing the game, but it is not a very smart game. That vote against Matty makes no sense whatsoever no matter how you look at it. His explanation was that he wants to flush out the idol, that would've happened whether or not he voted Matty or not. My explanation is that Kenny has some sort of complex and his main goal is to get all the "big" guys out. That is why he was even bragging to his sis. And I don't know where u all are getting the "Crystal" is winning idea from! I mean come one! There is just no way. And I wouldn't want her too. By far, the people that are left are just playing emotionally. There is not much strategy whatsoever. Even with Bob! Him giving Randy the fake HII is something that even a 5th grader wouldn't do! These are the worst set of endgamers ever!
kenc333		#3122	[-]
Posts: 5547 (12/05/08 6:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is from the RTVW interview: Reality TV World: Do you have any idea why Kenny felt the need to give Matty a third vote in order for his plan to work? Wouldn't Matty have still gone home [for being] the second highest vote-getter even if only Bob and yourself had voted for him? Corinne: Right. Well I think Kenny wanted to show his support so that if Matty went home I would believe he was with me, and I wouldn't think the same of Crystal. So if there was a Final 3 it would've been me, Bob and Kenny [instead of] me, Bob and Crystal. I would assume that's why he did it, but I have no idea, I don't speak to him. So if Corinne and Ken don't speak anymore, and Charlie said he hadn't spoken to Ken, he may be in the finals, even though I doubt it. And if he were in the finals, even though she wishes him the best of luck, would Ken get Corinne's vote? She said she'd only never vote for Sugar and has no animosity towards Crystal for not caving in...
GrenadeJumper85		#3123	[-]
Posts: 7203 (12/05/08 6:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What I get from that is that there was never any contact between Kenny and Corinne once she was voted out, so they never got to talk about it. Even though Corinne is a massive bitch, if Kenny was voted out before final three I wouldn't see them all just shunning him off and not talking to him at all while at Ponderosa. I think he's the most well liked amongst the brats on the jury.
urrout		#3124	[-]
Posts: 1734 (12/05/08 6:46 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Plus she would still believe he voted with her so she would be more likely to talk to him at LL.
MMan9000		#3125	[-]
Posts: 223 (12/05/08 6:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Perhaps they just didn't talk about the situation at Ponderosa. I bet they just decided to enjoy the scenery for what it was, and decided to keep all talk about the game elsewhere. Besides, who needs drama in "paradise?" Who knows how Corinne will vote? Her vote likely depends on who is sitting in the final three.
LKMOSCAR		#3126	[-]
Posts: 5527 (12/05/08 6:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	However, assuming Ken is in the final 3 with anyone but Bob, he'd probably get Corinne's vote. So, if she did in fact get the chance to vote for him, why are they on bad terms (not speaking)? He wouldn't be mad at her, and she wouldn't/didn't dislike him. Also, y'all should remember that even the final 2/3 go to Ponderosa, so EVERY person got to talk to one another afterwards.
MMan9000		#3127	[-]
Posts: 224 (12/05/08 6:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Also, don't forget that this is Corinne we are talking about here. She has turned bitchiness into an art form. I can see her being one to completely ignore someone even when there is no need.
xfactor99		#3128	[-]
Posts: 193 (12/05/08 7:08 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LKMOSCAR wrote: However, assuming Ken is in the final 3 with anyone but Bob, he'd probably get Corinne's vote. So, if she did in fact get the chance to vote for him, why are they on bad terms (not speaking)? He wouldn't be mad at her, and she wouldn't/didn't dislike him. Also, y'all should remember that even the final 2/3 go to Ponderosa, so EVERY person got to talk to one another afterwards. They're not on bad terms: Reality TV World: So, to start, in your exit statement you wished [Ken "Kenny" Hoang] luck and said that he and [Robert "Bob" Crowley] were the only two castaways you seemed to liked. Did you still feel that way after learning that Kenny had a hand in Crystal's vote for you? Corinne: Yeah. I mean, when I said that, obviously I didn't know about [Kenny's involvement in Crystal's vote]. Kenny was one of the people really... that I liked. He was a nice guy, and they all treated me basically like a leper, and Bob too. They wouldn't talk to us, if we walked into the hut they'd all leave. They didn't wanna be alone with us ever, and Kenny was very sweet about -- even though I was, I guess, the enemy -- he would go canoeing with me. He was kind of a friend while I was out there, I liked him. So I certainly didn't wish ill upon him, he's a good kid. Unfortunately, he got a little too big for his britches and he made, I think, a real poor choice of trying to flesh out an [Immunity Idol] and voting for me instead of [Matty Whitmore]. But I still think he's a good guy. Sounds like they just never got a chance to talk.
Ozzmanda Fan234		#3129	[-]
Posts: 761 (12/05/08 7:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Agreed. I think Corrine just spilled the beans that Sugar makes it to the F3 in an inteview with RNO: RNO: We saw a scene in last week's recap episode with you saying you had prepared a goodbye speech to tell everybody what you think of them when you were voted out, but we didn't see such a speech last night. Did you have a change of heart or was it just edited out? Corinne: Well, what happened was when you're voted out, I assumed there was going to be more time. I pointed to the jury and told them I was coming. I walked around and said, "Thank God." But I meant that for the next time I see her. There's not enough time - that would be great if I could go off at the end of Tribal Council. So you save that for wherever you see her again. But I promise you this, you won't be disappointed with the next interaction I have with her, wherever it is. I promise you.
kenc333		#3130	[-]
Posts: 5553 (12/05/08 7:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Corinne has implied, multiple times, that she, Marcus, Charlie and Randy are all going to vote in the same direction so that jurors 5, 6 and 7's votes won't matter. For some reason, I don't see that happening. There was split even in the Rotu 4's voting when they were taken out in practically the same order. I could see Corinne/Randy voting the same way, maybe even Marcus, but Charlie handled his boot well and will probably think for himself on the vote. My guess is that if the F3 is all-female, Crystal will win with the onion vote + Ken though.
LKMOSCAR		#3131	[-]
Posts: 5539 (12/05/08 9:02 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In an all girl final 3, Corinne probably definitely votes Crystal: Corinne: I knew [Jessica "Sugar" Kiper] and [Susie Smith] were a wash, I knew they weren't gonna come over. I had tried with [Randy Bailey]. Randy was real close with Matty, and the fact that we couldn't get Matty to flip, even though he hated Crystal, he wouldn't flip because he's just a big pussy. (laughs) [Matty] wouldn't flip so I knew he was no shot. I knew Kenny liked me and I knew I had something with Kenny and I thought Crystal was my only shot. So of the remaining people other than Kenny, Crystal was the only other person you could reason with. She's moderately intelligent.
Apple6666		#3132	[-]
Posts: 487 (12/05/08 9:12 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How do you know the final three is a all girl alliance.
YemaGrl1988		#3133	[-]
Posts: 2995 (12/05/08 9:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Apple6666 wrote: How do you know the final three is a all girl alliance. It's just spec.
LKMOSCAR		#3134	[-]
Posts: 5541 (12/05/08 9:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Apple6666 wrote: How do you know the final three is a all girl alliance. Apple, whatever happened to that ''Corinne is in the final 5'' stuff?
MMan9000		#3135	[-]
Posts: 225 (12/05/08 9:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We don't know. We're just speculating. Nothing is set in stone right now. There aren't really any concrete spoilers about who the final three is so...
kishuu		#3136	[-]
Posts: 692 (12/05/08 11:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MMan9000 wrote: Has anyone read the latest RNO interview with Corinne? She practically reveals that Sugar is in the Final Three. She says that her next reaction with Sugar will be great, which likely means that she and Sugar go at it at the final Tribal Council. And based on those deleted scenes in the other thread, Susie is playing a better game than we have been shown. Everyone is talking about how her strategy is to take out the strongest people. With a number of insider clips being devoted to her, she does stand a chance now of beating out Crystal if it's an all female final three. Onion hate her more than they hate Crystal.
Apple6666		#3137	[-]
Posts: 489 (12/05/08 11:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	if Bob leaves next how would that be a shocking tribes like in the prewiews are hintings it said something happen with the idol causing a shocking tc.
sunflower101		#3138	[-]
Posts: 4010 (12/05/08 11:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LKMOSCAR wrote: ^We know. Yeah I know,but I still see posts were people are taking that as a definite spoiler that Matty is out soon.
sunflower101		#3139	[-]
Posts: 4011 (12/05/08 11:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: i'm speculating, but if you look at the F5 pic closely. All of the F5 (I could be wrong) pictured are wearing short sleeves, bob has long sleeves. And I think they will boot bob before kenny or crystal just because bob is a immunity threat. Kenny could also win immunity.
sunflower101		#3140	[-]
Posts: 4012 (12/05/08 11:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: Kenny is just fine. If anything it makes him less of a F3 threat and helps his game. Bob and Matty are the bigger threat. Matty hasn't betrayed anyone and if Bob makes it, then it will be like Chris overcoming the odds. Sugar won't hold it against him because she calls herself a traitor and she may feel she just bumped up to first rather than second place. She is very aware Kenny is playing to win. I am not too sure she didn't know about the flip. Her statements at TC were just a little too coincidental. I don't think Kenny knew she knew though. Maybe she is just repeating what Susie said in that confessional. Matty is the only one that should be mad at him because it was Matty's butt on the line. Kenny was just protecting his own butt. If he had said no and the idol was real, then Bob and Corrine could have voted for him. He should have just voted for Corrine because Matty would have been gone without his vote but he at least made sure Matty would was safe if the idol was fake by telling Crystal to vote for Corrine. He made a mistake but it will probably help his game. He won't be as cocky and more aware that the others can make good plays. His only obstacle is F4, imo. I don't think Kenny being fooled by this idol is as bad as Randy and Corrine. Corrine was fooled twice. This one used a head similar to the immunity necklace while they got fooled by one that was obviously fake. Wish they would have said where he got that head from. You are forgetting one thing. Kenny/Crystal made another alliance with Bob/Corine. That would leave both Sugar/Susie out of the final 3. That's why they would be mad, not that it was Matty's butt on the line.

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