Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers (and speculation) all say Bob loses from day 1

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LKMOSCAR		#2881	[-]
Posts: 5436 (11/30/08 3:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	INDIVIDUAL immunity challenges. That F10 one doesn't count.
Krossedge		#2882	[-]
Posts: 223 (11/30/08 3:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: mtj1282 wrote: He specifically said that we would like the outcome and it would be a huge payoff to the fans. How could that be kenny,crystal or susie? None of them have the likeable edits that sugar and matty have. Isn't that a matter of personal opinion? Matty has a boring edit where it has been shown that nothing he tries works. He fails at everything and they even told us he almost felt like quitting. Matty has done nothing that we have seen except win the team/individual IC. He has been carried by the others and as of now does not deserve to win this game. He hasn't even won any ICs but the others have. Again "WE" here like Kenny and Sugar. Some people like Corrine, Bob, etc.. All a matter of opinion and what makes a good winner to you. Who would think Kenny would win after the first episode? Yet he is in the middle of the power group because he earned it. You mean because JP and MB didn't want a Marcus or onion related win?!?! They may be real people playing the game, but production can do whatever they want to manipulate the game by creating some new and "exciting" twists. Survivor is a giant chessboard, and all the players are just the pawns.
Heliox		#2883	[-]
Posts: 1390 (11/30/08 3:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why would Bob want to humiliate another person on the jury?? I can see him using the idol to protect himself, but if Corinne is going to go anyway, as Randy was, why make the person hate you for humiliating them??
urrout		#2884	[-]
Posts: 1714 (11/30/08 3:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mtj1282 wrote: Who has the likeable edit is fact, not a matter of opinion. Ill use someone that is so obvious of having an unlikeable edit to show you what I mean: If someone said that jerri manthey (australlia version) did not have a likeable edit, that would be true and not a matter of opinion, correct? If someone said JFP (pearl islands version) did not have a likeable edit that would be true correct? So you are comparing Jerri and JFP to Kenny and Susie? No way. Even Crystal hasn't been that bad. Those players were also edited that way for entertainment. Susie has not been entertaining at all. Kenny has been more comical than unlikable. At least for me. Krossedge wrote: Holy. Contradict yourself much? Obviously I meant since it went individual ICs. IOW, he hasn't protected his alliance by winning ICs to keep their boot choices from winning them.
Krossedge		#2885	[-]
Posts: 224 (11/30/08 3:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: mtj1282 wrote: Who has the likeable edit is fact, not a matter of opinion. Ill use someone that is so obvious of having an unlikeable edit to show you what I mean: If someone said that jerri manthey (australlia version) did not have a likeable edit, that would be true and not a matter of opinion, correct? If someone said JFP (pearl islands version) did not have a likeable edit that would be true correct? So you are comparing Jerri and JFP to Kenny and Susie? No way. Even Crystal hasn't been that bad. Those players were also edited that way for entertainment. Susie has not been entertaining at all. Kenny has been more comical than unlikable. At least for me. Krossedge wrote: Holy. Contradict yourself much? Obviously I meant since it went individual ICs. IOW, he hasn't protected his alliance by winning ICs to keep their boot choices from winning them. My bad. I read over your first post again and realized I misunderstood it. I am never drinking half a bottle of Jack Daniels again, I feel so out of it. Is it normal to still be hung over this late in the day? Blah!
cindidindi76		#2886	[-]
Posts: 13659 (11/30/08 4:09 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: Why would Bob want to humiliate another person on the jury?? I can see him using the idol to protect himself, but if Corinne is going to go anyway, as Randy was, why make the person hate you for humiliating them?? Agreed. It's like he's just doing it to do it, which isn't exactly playing the game in an intelligent manner.
mtj1282		#2887	[-]
Posts: 1886 (11/30/08 4:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: mtj1282 wrote: Who has the likeable edit is fact, not a matter of opinion. Ill use someone that is so obvious of having an unlikeable edit to show you what I mean: If someone said that jerri manthey (australlia version) did not have a likeable edit, that would be true and not a matter of opinion, correct? If someone said JFP (pearl islands version) did not have a likeable edit that would be true correct? So you are comparing Jerri and JFP to Kenny and Susie? No way. Even Crystal hasn't been that bad. Those players were also edited that way for entertainment. Susie has not been entertaining at all. Kenny has been more comical than unlikable. At least for me. Are you serious? Im not comparing them at all. I was giving examples of how the way a person is edited usually isnt a matter of opinion, meaning that if someone is edited as a villian, then thats what they were edited as, therefore for someone to say that in their opinon they werent a villian is ridiculous.
KJ4TheWin		#2888	[-]
Posts: 42 (11/30/08 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I discovered something that is alike with the individual idol, and Sugar's hidden idol. (Thanks to birdlady for posting pictures of the II, HI, Bobs fake and the two II's in Episode 1.) "3" is the II, the middle one is Bob's new idol, "4" is Sugar's.
urrout		#2889	[-]
Posts: 1715 (11/30/08 4:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Krossedge wrote: You mean because JP and MB didn't want a Marcus or onion related win?!?! They may be real people playing the game, but production can do whatever they want to manipulate the game by creating some new and "exciting" twists. Survivor is a giant chessboard, and all the players are just the pawns. And the best pawn adapting to all the twists should win. If you look back none of the twists really favoured Kenny. Kenny made his own moves. Picking Kelly was a strategic move. The twists also didn't hurt the onions by themselves. Their poor gameplay hurt them. They only lost one member in the first twist and they could have thrown the ICs to protect her. They had 3 non onion targets. They never made Susie feel welcome and that split vote when Dan was booted reinforced it allowing her to boot Marcus when she got a better offer after the 3rd twist. Marcus caused his own boot. Matty saved his own butt. The double boot didn't cost them a member because they booted Dan. They could have still had all their members at the merge. The onions didn't adapt. They didn't think ahead.
Krossedge		#2890	[-]
Posts: 225 (11/30/08 4:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: Krossedge wrote: You mean because JP and MB didn't want a Marcus or onion related win?!?! They may be real people playing the game, but production can do whatever they want to manipulate the game by creating some new and "exciting" twists. Survivor is a giant chessboard, and all the players are just the pawns. And the best pawn adapting to all the twists should win. If you look back none of the twists really favoured Kenny. Kenny made his own moves. Picking Kelly was a strategic move. The twists also didn't hurt the onions by themselves. Their poor gameplay hurt them. They only lost one member in the first twist and they could have thrown the ICs to protect her. They had 3 non onion targets. They never made Susie feel welcome and that split vote when Dan was booted reinforced it allowing her to boot Marcus when she got a better offer after the 3rd twist. Marcus caused his own boot. Matty saved his own butt. The double boot didn't cost them a member because they booted Dan. They could have still had all their members at the merge. The onions didn't adapt. They didn't think ahead. I actually agree with almost everything you stated above. I guess I am still bitter from the Randy boot. The Onion's heads sweled way too much and they forgot that Survivor is very unpredictable. Well, I agree that Kenny took full advantage of the twists(and good for him), it really did help the underdogs get the upper hand. You know damn right that had there not been any twists or swaps, etc, that Onions would be in the finals. I just lost all my respect for the remaining players with the Randy boot. Poor Randy!
LKMOSCAR		#2891	[-]
Posts: 5437 (11/30/08 4:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why are you so sure of that? Fang had won 2 straight challenges before the first swap.
sunflower101		#2892	[-]
Posts: 3984 (11/30/08 9:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MJSLawrence wrote: sunflower101 wrote: Another thing that people aren't considering is how Sugar's relationship with Crystal/Kenny/Matty is being edited. I think that Kenny could be the winner, but he wasn't shown a lot in the recap episode and the editing has made it seem like Sugar isn't closely aligned with him or Crystal. So far Sugar has been edited to look like she doesn't have any final 3 deals with Kenny/Crystal and is most closely aligned with Matty (Marcus boot episode). The casual viewer probably thinks that Sugar doesn't trust Crystal/Kenny because of Ace's boot, and probably wouldn't go to the end with them. So either something happens that Sugar ends up siding with Matty at some point and Kenny gets voted out or the show is going to start focusing on Sugar forming some kind of alliance with Kenny/Crystal. It's also possible that Kenny is blindsided with Corine still around. Why would Sugar need to chose between Matty or Corine if Kenny is still around? It could be that Kenny goes before Matty, but there is an all final 3 (Sugar/Susie/Crystal). Didn't Probst say that the audience would like the winner. Matty and Sugar seem to be the most popular with a lot of the fans, that post on other boards.I am not suggesting that Kenny and Crystal don't have fans. I am just not sure that the general audience would be satisfied with a Crystal because of how she was shown earlier in the game. But Jeff said clearly in his blog that Kenny would get his...that he was getting too cocky...Kenny is definitely gonna be blindsided... That is what I was just saying in my post. Kenny has a very good chance to win, but based on what has been shown in the TV show there is also a very good chance that Kenny isn't even there. The same thing like with what Jeff Probst said in his blog, he could have been lazy and said too much or misled everybody. With the way they have handled information given in interviews/previews either could be true. Just like with what Randy said in his interview, he could have slipped up and said too much or he could be misleading people.
sunflower101		#2893	[-]
Posts: 3985 (11/30/08 9:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: There is no longer a CBS poll so where are getting that Matty is liked by the majority of the audience? The one on this site has Kenny, Crystal and Sugar being the most popular the last few shows. You are right CBS doesn't have a popularity poll anymore. I was going by what people are posting on other boards and what people I know say about the show. It seems a majority of those people like Matty. (not rooting for Matty to win, because his game strategy sucks).
ozzy		#2894	[-]
Posts: 30 (11/30/08 11:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	this idol that bob has, i think its fake, but who knows. if its real, that would be awesome. clearly corinne is out next, well hopefully. and i do expect to see ken get his due soon, he will be in the jury. Ken is getting way to cocky-ala ozzy.
Apple6666		#2895	[-]
Posts: 445 (11/30/08 11:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What if Sugar gave bob her idol offscreen.
rbk32		#2896	[-]
Posts: 225 (11/30/08 11:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	well. its different idol. if u look at pic
round peg		#2897	[-]
Posts: 118 (11/30/08 11:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID DYSLEXIC CUNT
Apple6666		#2898	[-]
Posts: 448 (11/30/08 11:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PEGS how are the pill popping going.
rower	Survivor Gabon Boot Spoilers	#2899	[-]
Posts: 1816 (11/30/08 11:55 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JP said that we would love, like, be happy with or whatever the finalists. WTF are we debating here? What would you expect JP to say? The three finalists sucked, he disliked all of them, the people are going to disgusted at who gets through to the finals? (not saying that any of this is true either) It doesn't matter what JP says, he is not the public watching this show. I, for one, can decide for myself whether I like or dislike the finalists / winner. I don't need JP to tell me how to feel. And whoever makes it this year, love them or hate them, I will be watching next season.
autumnhascome		#2900	[-]
Posts: 10 (12/01/08 1:58 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	rower wrote: JP said that we would love, like, be happy with or whatever the finalists. WTF are we debating here? What would you expect JP to say? The three finalists sucked, he disliked all of them, the people are going to disgusted at who gets through to the finals? (not saying that any of this is true either) It doesn't matter what JP says, he is not the public watching this show. I, for one, can decide for myself whether I like or dislike the finalists / winner. I don't need JP to tell me how to feel. And whoever makes it this year, love them or hate them, I will be watching next season. But he could also not comment on the 'likeability' of the finalists. Why did he choose to do so then?

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