Canookian Politics Thlead; Jakob's dead, long live Iggy !

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Driv		#2221	[-]
Posts: 3420 (12/02/08 6:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I BROKE THAT NEWS AGES AGO it was a Driv Exclusive
Jakob Speed		#2222	[-]
Posts: 3103 (12/02/08 6:11 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was Blackberrying N.S. Ontario and N.B. Libs on Saturday morning who told me they HATED this idea. P.S. I just got two emails from actual Iggy office peeps today, no form email responses, real responses of substance, including grammar errors. Yay! Actual interest in little peeps. WOW!
Jakob Speed		#2223	[-]
Posts: 3104 (12/02/08 6:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Everything is imploding.... Camel-breaking straw: Diehard, bellicose, separatist Jacques Parizeau backs coalition Alberta Premier says "Stop the nonsense", hints at "Plan B" BC Premier Gordon Campbell denounces Coalition putsch: "Stand back, think of Canada !" ... Ont Gvt decries 'political circus' on Parliament Hill ... All huff, no puff: Bit-part Lib leadership player Dom Leblanc nixes leadership launch Get Bourque updates on Twitter ... More Bourque.... One longtime senior Ignatieff backer, under condition of anonymity, confided that "Michael is in a tenuous situation and he is feeling a lot of heat from caucus colleagues and constituents alike. Frankly, we think we got snookered by Bob Rae on this one". It nets out to this, according to this longtime Liberal and echoed by many other key backroom players: ordinary Liberals across the country, the card-carrying bbq-ing door-knocking envelope-stuffing phone-banking kind who make up the backbone of the party and who would need to be counted on to support his leadership aspirations, are vehemently rejecting the Dion argument that a deal with the separatist Bloc Quebecois is in the best interests of Canada. "Bullshit", said one Liberal power-broker, who was quick to point out Dion is tilting at Liberal history for the sake of a short stint at 24 Sussex. "Dion is nuts", he told Bourque, "I am ashamed he is leading the party of Laurier, Pearson, Trudeau, and Chretien - my God, Chretien, the guy who poured out his federalist heart against Rene Levesque's country-killing forces so long ago - I am ashamed Dion is selling us out." He and the others are right, of course. Add to that a comment from one of Canada's leading media personalities, who told Bourque this evening that "the Liberals can never again say that they are the guardians of National Unity". He has a sobering point, unfortunately. Ignatieff, in turn, would be right to heed the growing chorus of advice from his own braintrust and to distance himself from this embarrassing marriage of expedience fueled by nothing more than the personal egos and ambitions of a relatively few desperate 'inside-the-beltway' political personalities, both elected and otherwise, the 'chip-on-their-shoulders' type who can't see beyond their disdain for Harper. In short, no act of clarity whatsoever. Meanwhile, Former Lib MP & Deputy PM John Manley is also now distancing himself from Dion's unholy alliance, telling a G&M confcall that his inclusion in Dion's wise men sounding board is news to him. "I havent agreed to do anything", he said. Developing ... Last Edited By: Jakob Speed 12/02/08 7:10 PM. Edited 2 times.
Driv		#2224	[-]
Posts: 3421 (12/02/08 7:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Poll: 54% want Tory MPs to resign over coalition ... i need to take issue with this one. the poll is a web poll on bourque's site. not exactly accurate. still, i hope Iggy takes the wind outta dion's sails.
Jakob Speed		#2225	[-]
Posts: 3105 (12/02/08 7:11 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I meant to edit that and the Lowell Scream story out...
AshBender		#2226	[-]
Posts: 1910 (12/02/08 7:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Driv wrote: Poll: 54% want Tory MPs to resign over coalition ... i need to take issue with this one. the poll is a web poll on bourque's site. not exactly accurate. still, i hope Iggy takes the wind outta dion's sails. The one on the CTV website has 64% wanting the Tories to stay.. of course still not accurate, but at least more likely that more of a variety of people visit.
SurvivorArctic		#2227	[-]
Posts: 13001 (12/02/08 7:33 PM) Not a team player Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I just an ACTUAL Liberal leader. I completely disagreed with Dion when he was annoited and have been waiting for his ousting ever since. Go Iggy Go!
Jakob Speed		#2228	[-]
Posts: 3106 (12/02/08 7:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	STICK A FORK IN IT! IT's DONE BAYBEEE! UPDATE 2: Insiders are telling Bourque late this evening that "at least 15 opposition members are ready to break ranks and, if necessary, sit as independents. This group includes Dryden, Tonks, Bevilacqua (from Grits) and Angus (NDP)". Bourque is also hearing that "at least three Bloc members are considering same course of action and there maybe at least two Tories thinking of going the other way (as independents) - Michael 'Cheech' Chong and a backbencher named Richardson, whose first name escapes me." Developing ...
buried out back		#2229	[-]
Posts: 8677 (12/02/08 7:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You people didn't really think that these idiots could hold this shit together long enough for it to come to reality did you? All those bloated egos in one coalition?
Jakob Speed		#2230	[-]
Posts: 3107 (12/02/08 7:49 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	you are breaking bluesboi's heart bob.
Vicconius		#2231	[-]
Posts: 15182 (12/02/08 7:50 PM) I want "this won't end well" too. Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't agree with Dryden politically, but the man is a very thoughtful, sober person. My respect for the man has shot through the roof. My hockey respect was always there for him and his brother. Go Oilers.
buried out back		#2232	[-]
Posts: 8678 (12/02/08 7:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Go Oilers, indeed. Can we turn this into a Canadian Hockey thread now?
Jakob Speed		#2233	[-]
Posts: 3108 (12/02/08 8:01 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Go read the Sean Avery news in the NHL thread.... funniest thing in the news in a while. He talked about Canadians and his sloppy seconds (Elisha Cuthbert)
scottfreek		#2234	[-]
Posts: 2606 (12/02/08 8:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sorry to distract from the impo'tant stuff (hockey), but this WHOLE situation is still quite fluid. (not a reference to Avery's "sloppy seconds" quote) there are so many possible outcomes, it's silly to rely on any "breaking rumours" at this point... my sense is that if the Libs know that they won't be presenting a united front, or are in danger of embarrassing themselves, they'll find an out, as opposed to imploding. ('cause their chances of winning, somewhere down the road, have most likely increased) but since Harper inspired this previously inconceivable coalition, I still think he could light enough fires under it to ensure it actually comes to pass. even w/ PM DIngdONg as leader.
WylDawg		#2235	[-]
Posts: 16790 (12/02/08 8:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry, toally late in the News. What the hell happened? Can someone bring me up to speed?
Jakob Speed		#2236	[-]
Posts: 3111 (12/02/08 8:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tonks Dryden and Bevilacqua are all on the Manley/center-right side of the party. Hell, before Tonks (former Metro Chairman) and Dryden joined the Liberals federally, everyone thought they were PCs.
Jakob Speed		#2237	[-]
Posts: 3112 (12/02/08 8:30 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Parizeau supporting the coalition of the weinies has the Iggies revolting against it. Leave it to Parizeau to clear out a room like an aged cheese fart. Last Edited By: Jakob Speed 12/02/08 8:35 PM. Edited 1 times.
buried out back		#2238	[-]
Posts: 8680 (12/02/08 8:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So our union hasn't voted on the deal(ultimatum) that Harper's government is forcing down our throats. If this coalition comes to pass or Harper is gone in some other way, can/will the government go back to the bargaining table with the Federal Employees or are we locked into this deal?
scottfreek		#2239	[-]
Posts: 2607 (12/02/08 8:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dryden pauses to reflect... "Hmmm, I already got the goalie mask. Question is, do I go all "Jason-like" on Steven or Stephane?" ::: cue ominous music :::
buried out back		#2240	[-]
Posts: 8682 (12/02/08 8:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	And the crowd chants Ste.....?

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