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ghettofabman |
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Just watch this:
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Riff |
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It's funny that a guy who was SCREAMING at the jury could ever pwn anyone, like Adum was, but that's the beauty of ManBearPig. There is simply no
rivaling his eloquence. "Yeah, um, you know, like, um, yeah, you know?" Well, I'm sold!
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ghettofabman |
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Oh, and the beginning of this video is where Adam clearly won the jury over:
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James Barber |
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Thank you for those clips. I didn't see most of that finale. I loved the way Adam basically dragged Sheila's carcass up and down the roadside during
that Q&A, and she still voted for him!
Did Chelsia always look that bad? |
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danisucksit |
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James Barber wrote: Did Chelsia always look that bad? yes |
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jackbauer1982 |
Over-analysis pending their post-jury questioning reactions | ||
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I really believe that Dan is pretty certain to get the votes of Michelle, Keesha and Renny. I think it would take a superb jury performance from Memphis to win them over. Memphis tonight told Dan he wouldn't bring up Dan being in on her ouster if Dan didn't bring up the car, which is stupid. Everyone is going to remember the car no matter what. In fact, I think someone like April might be impressed that Memphis navigated his way through the game despite having the car hung around his neck. I think that's a bad trade, even if its not really binding. Also, Dan did a good job inoculating himself by explaining to Keesha (I think he spoke in metaphors about this, might have even used a sock to explain) that he did have an arrangement with Memphis that ran parallel to the one he had with Keesha/Renny. I think Dan sold Michelle well during the trip and he did a great job appealing to her ego. Plus, what Memphis did to Keesha will have to resonate with Michelle. I believe, like everyone else, that Ollie/April will vote the same. It would be a shocker if they
didn't. It's really the only to ensure they have any power. It was interesting that April used the phrase "coasted" in regards to Memphis in
her jury Q&A. That seemingly have a negative connotation. I do remember her talking positively about him after she left. I can't believe Ollie will
vote for Dan to win after everything he did and I can't believe that April won't back up her man.
It's hard to know what the old fart will do. I hope his vote is irrelevant. I think he'll vote for Memphis, especially once he gets around Ollie and April again. The only way I see him changing is if he gets the sense that Dan is popular with viewers or that Dan already has four votes and he doesn't want to be on a losing side. I think Jerry advocating for Memphis won't really net any votes, but could push some away. Both Libra and Renny really went after him in post-game interviews and would be happy to deny him relevance one last time by going the other way on him. I don't think there's any chance of a blowout happening unless April/Ollie know they don't have the votes and make a bid for popularity by voting for Dan. Before the questioning, I see Dan with a 3-2 lead with Libra and Jerry being the only votes that could sway, either by D/M's performances during the jury questioning or by outside influence from the producers, advocating for a Dan win. The big thing here though is that Dan has such an advantage in knowing which votes he has a good shot at and who are the votes that can swing a win to him. He knows he can say fuck you to April/Ollie, appeal to Libra specifically and win. Memphis basically has to randomly target every vote in the hopes of getting four. Memphis doesn't know that he probably has April/Ollie's votes and therefore should be working Michelle and Libra. And he has no idea that Michelle would be in Dan's corner to the extent she might be. If the beach trip comes out during questioning, it's going to reflect poorly on Memphis, not Dan. It looks like this vote will go 5-2 or 4-3 Dan or 4-3 Memphis. If either gets six votes, I'll be stunned. |
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sunflower101 |
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danisucksit wrote: the only reason april/ollie would go along with a dan vote is so they don't look like bitter jurors voting for memphis. of course dan took ollie's manhood so he might vote the same as jerry. |
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James Barber |
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salchicho wrote:I think there's a lot of truth in what you're saying, but I also think she may not have been able to resist telling people just because she wanted to have something to tell them. If Memphis had taken her on the trip she probably would have tried the same trick with Keesha. |
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sunflower101 |
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Sigvold wrote:Dan didn't strike that deal with Memphis until after Keesha was gone. Dan threw the veto to Memphis, because Memphis wanted him to take him off if he won the veto. Dan knew that even if Keesha stayed she wouldn't have liked Dan putting her back on the block, so he threw it. |
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sunflower101 |
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El Hutch wrote:Keesha and Memphis have a better chance of making up then April and Keesha ever will. |
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sunflower101 |
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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor wrote:I think Keesha has a good chance at the money. A lot of people weren't happy that Memphis kept Jerry over Keesha. Keesha is fairly popular because she caused a lot of the major events of the season. She was the mastermind behind the Jessie eviction. |
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sunflower101 |
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Memphis's best relationships in the house where with Dan/Keesha. This is why Memphis blew his chances of winning voting out Keesha.The one juror's vote
he should have had locked up, he evicted from the house. Of course he might get April/Ollie's by deflaut because they feel betrayed by Dan/Keesha the most.
Memphis should have taken Keesha to the final 3, and let Dan evict her in the final 2. I still don't get why Memphis though blowing 2 jury votes
(Renny/Keesha's was a smart move).
Everyone is always so shocked that Dick won even though he was a whole Dick to the jury. This is why social relationships are important. Even when Dick was an *sshole he still always had the better relationships. Daniele isolated herself too much with Nick the first 4 weeks. She was in the LNC because Dick included her. She let Dick do all the work of making the alliance with Eric/Jessica. It made Dick look like he was running their whole alliance. |
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WylDawg |
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ghettofabman wrote: Meh, I'd say slightly sucked less. MBP's fatal mistake apparently was dating Jen. |
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moviegirl11 |
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Yeah I think Adam won because the Jury wanted to punish Ryan for Jen. That's how I remember it anyway though I'm working on blocking that season out
of my memory.
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gwendolay |
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Last night Dan and Memphis decided that Dan will definitely get Keesha's vote and Memphis will definitely get Jerry's vote (Dan: He's totally in
love with you, dude). I've realized that those are the only two votes I feel like I know for certain at this point, too. The rest could go either way. The
jury stuff last night seemed to favor Dan but that's heavily edited.
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moviegirl11 |
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Yeah I agree the jury stuff seemed very edited as though they wanted to make it appear like Dan was doing better with the votes than Memphis (and no one was
shown having anything positive to say about Memphis). I have a feeling (from what was shown last night) that from this jury's perspective, it's going
to come down to who wants to give Dan credit for how he played vs. who wants to punish him by voting for Memphis to win. I think Memphis' strategy of
standing back and letting other people do all the dirty work might work if the majority of the houseguests are bitter/mad enough at Dan but if they're not,
Memphis wont have much to lean on in terms of moves he's made in the game to deserve the win. (This is not to say that I dont think Memphis played a good
game - just that I'm not sure he's going to have enough evidence to show the jury that he deserves to win, in which case he'll have to rely on the
bitterness of people like April to vote against Dan).
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salchicho wrote:Exactly - and when Keesha was there with them, I got the feeling she was feeling a little played about Dan try to get her to swing Michelle's vote on the way out the door......I still don't think K will vote for Memphis, but I'm thinking the luxury comp didn't win Michelle over. Obviously there was a lot of discussion in the jury house about Michelle going on that trip - we'll find out Tuesday if that trip was a good or bad thing for Dan. |
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anders332 |
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moviegirl11 wrote: Memphis' game definitely wasn't as superior as Dan's but he should address the fact that he allowed Dan to pawn him twice and was able to win the comps to keep himself in the game and maneuver the game in his favour. Even by saying that Dan was the mastermind, but that Dan always deferred to Memphis to carry out the strategy...may score him some points....just saying..... I just don't think either have a lock on the win. |
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omzig |
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I really think it's gonna be 3-3 with Libra casting the deciding vote.
I think Dan deserves it and is lucky to be in the position he is in because he didn't have a shot in hell to win a week ago. Taking Michelle on the getaway and Memphis evicting Keesha will give him a better than fighting chance to win. |
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Jim Dandy to the rescue |
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It looked pretty concrete that Jerry would vote for his BFF Memphis. But when he realizes those two were in it together all along, and that Memphis was just
stringing him along, will he vote for the person that never promised final 2 with him, or will he vote for the person who played him for a fool? Remember he
was all about not being played for a fool on tv.
It was funny listening to April and Renny last night saying they hoped anyone but Jerry showed up at the jury house. Cause I get the feeling it was for two very different reasons. In April's case she was just bitter enough to want Jerry to win over the most deserving players. In Renny's case I think it was all about not wanting to even entertain the idea of having to live with Jerry in confined quarters again. And now she won't have to. |
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