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Sigh... if it were not for Howie being such a retard, going along with Maggie's plans to put James & Sarah up, the sovs would be up 6-4 when Kaysar
returned instead of being down 5-4-1, and Kaysar would have no reason to let go of that button!
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Yup, Howie fucked up big time. Worst move in the history of reality games. |
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Quiddity wrote: But you have to remember, Maggie only gave up because she wanted the last box. She had no problem in that competition and only gave up because the others all had a common goal. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Nah, I'd say Survivor Erik, BB9 Jacob, and BB8 Mike at the very least top him easily. :P |
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craig |
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Chilltown and Erika both played a pretty standard alliance game in their first season CT painted a big target on themselves and made some dumb moves early in
BB2.
Chilltown avoiding being targted early in BBAS and getting the Sovs and Floaters to go at it was just as impressive as what Will did at the end of BB2. He's not the only mastermind in goats clothing to pull off a win. Erika played a good floater game in BBAS, taking a page from Jun and Alison's book. And she was targeted several times but manged to survive or win veto (F5). Janie and Will were trying to evict her or paint a target on her from week 4 on, yet she ended up F2 with Boogie as they both feared. Her only big mistake was booting Chicken George at F5, the only person in F6 she could beat. Janie had a huge target on her in BBAS based on past reputation and jealousy. The Sovs smartly booted comp threats early, so that later Janie was winning vetoes where Chilltown was throwing it and Chicken George was among the competitors. The Sovs losing to the Friendship was an embarssment, and Janie came in 2nd in so many comps, but in BBAS the Sovs performed better in a tougher situation and Janie really became a challenge monster.
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chapera rocks |
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Erika in BB4, IIRC, was set up nicely to win if she could get to the end.
Erika in BB7 was treated as a complete joke, and had no shot at winning. Chicken George probably would have beaten her in the finals. |
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craig |
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Eika played the same game as Danielle in BBAS, only a bit better.
They both were floaters on the edges of the Sov4, but Dani got her ass nommed week 1. She might have been evicted if Janie hadn't secure Marci's vote. Erika threw HOH to Dani week 5 because they had the same agenda, but she wanted Dani take the heat. Dani thought she was so smart with her Legion of Doom alliance, but Erika was in tigher with Chilltown. Erika putting Dani up at F6 wasn't a bad move, since Janie would have evicted Chicken George rather than turn of Chilltown with both Dani and Erika in the house. If not for the Fast Forward twist at F5, I bet Erika and Janie likely would have got together a week earlier and taken out CT. Since Erika was a F4 veto away from winning BB4, but Dani couldn't beat anyone in the F3 of BB3 (same position as Nicole), I've gotta give Erika the title of 2nd best BB player who never won (next to Janie). |
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Daniele (BB8) - 6 - The bitch was so whiny and cunty, but she did good at comps and could think strategically sometimes. But overall, bitch played a very poor social game, so much that she lost to the biggest asshole ever.Sorry CR, but I must disagree here. Sure Dani spent too much time with Nick early in the game, but once he was gone, her social game was much better than Dick's and she had much better relationships with Zach and Jameka and Amber than Dick did. Those who argue that Dick played a much better endgame than Dani seem to forget that Dani was ALWAYS the target when the two of them were on the block and basically from Kail's boot onward. Dani's social game was VASTLY UNDERATED mainly because of the Jenitards and EDtards took over all of the threads in that season, including the live feeds report thread and the live feeds discussion thread. A similar trend is happening this season of BB10, where the Angietards have taken over the threads and when she's gone this week, I can already see signs that they will join up with the Rennytards to form an even bigger (and probably more annoying) mass of tards. "Oh, Renny's a goddess". "Oh, Renny's so beautiful and April and Keesha are so ugly". What Renny is, in fact, is a clownish middle-aged hausfrau with too many wigs and too many outlandish outfits and a sitcomish accent. And she's still my second fave (after Dan) left in the BB house this season. But her tards are driving me nuts Dani lost to "the biggest asshole ever" because of one reason only - Grodner's America's Player. Before the jury questions, everyone on this board and even Dick and Dani themselves thought that Dani would win 5-2 or 4-3. After the jury questions, everyone on this board and even Dick and Dani themselves thought that Dick would win 5-2 or 4-3. Why ? Because Eric exhaustively campaigned for Dick in the jury house. Because the jury were fed questions by Grodner to ask the two finalists, and Dick got some awfully softballish questions thrown his way (eg: Jen) while Dani was attacked by stupid delusional Amber. So what happened in the end ? Eric had to vote for Dick (though he would have voted for Dick anyway). Jessica had to vote for Dick because Eric told her to vote for Dick (and Jessica was jealous that Dani was considered "the hot blonde" of the house and Dani was also better at comps than Jess). Dustin, for some reason that was never explained, had a hate for Dani more than the abusive Dick. Maybe he didn't want a girl to beat him in this game. Maybe he was afraid of Dick. Maybe he was a pompous asshole. Probably all three reasons apply. Jen didn't like either Donato but at least she was intelligent enough to vote for the Donato who didn't constantly abuse her. Too bad Zach and Amber and Dustin couldn't figure out this simple concept. Jameka actually voted for the best player, and much props go to her for that. Too bad she couldn't influence stupid Amber. The two worst votes belong to stupid Zach and stupid Amber. It is completely inexplicable that Zach was closer to Dani in the house, constantly called her the best player in the game while in the house, defended her somewhat during the jury deliberations and yet still voted for Dick in the end. Why? If it was discovered that somehow Grodner threatened him or bribed him with a spot on BBAS2 (remember that in post-show interviews, Zach was trumpeting a "standing offer" for BBAS2 Amber had to have the stupidest question in the history of this game. It would be similar to Dani asking Amber (in the F2) about Amber's abortions and
her lies to her boyfriend). I cannot believe that even stupid Amber could come up with this question on her own, so I can only assume that Grodner
orchestrated this question too, maybe via Eric. Props to Dani for her verbal slapdown of stupid Amber.
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All I gotta say about Daniele is that while she did have some miniscule bonds with some people, that was vastly overlooked when it came down to the simple fact that Daniele often hid behind her father. REGARDLESS, players in BB8 cannot be objectively ranked because of the America's Player fuck-up which totally spun the season in a direction it never would have taken.
As for BB7, I would not take Erika saying she would vote for Janelle for any merit. Do you remember that nutjob towards the end of the season? Smoking the butts of cigarettes and wearing that gray sweats/pj outfit day-in and day-out? Yeah, I wouldn't be believing her when she says she was all pro-Janelle. Maybe, but I doubt it. |
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craig |
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BB7 and BB8 show that most juries would rather vote for Satan than a girl perceived as playing Amber to Satan. Erika L and Dani D deserve more credit, but
that's how Dustin saw it.
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Fuck you all. Poll is closed because you're all a bunch of dipshits and don't respect the integrity of the game.
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he should have kept his finger on the button, as simple as that. Did Kaysar really think that the friendship was going to leave him alone after he brutally backstabbed Eric?Letting go of the button was just fine. The problem was Maggie and Ivette manipulating Jen. Simple as that. That was Jen's worst move ever, since her and Yapril were the LEAST of the Sov's concerns. I'm not going to read all of that Dani BS, but point is, Daniele was a horrible social player. there's no excuse and no way EVEN Grodner can rig a jury vote for the biggest douche in history. Point being, Daniele sucked in every way possible, and her loss was a deserved loss. Jen, Eric, and Jessica owned that season and one of them should have won. |
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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor wrote: I am excited to see how the list turns out.
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Oowatanite |
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craig wrote: Then Dustin is a moron. There's no way that someone who was targetted beginning in week two right until the end, and who won 5 POVs and 2 HoHs is
"hiding" behind anyone.
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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor |
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The 25 Greatest Players In Big Brother History
Before we begin, let me explain my scoring methods, which includes... A SPECIAL TWIST!!!!!!! You didn't think a Big Brother thread could ever escape Grodner's need to surprise people in a shitacular way, right? Well, Mu ha ha ha. The twist is that if you voted "5" for any of these players it still counted as a "They Suck And Shouldn't Be On The List" vote. You all should have known better than to try and let average players slip through the cracks. Anyway, this worked marvelously as exactly 25 players managed to earn less than 50% of the They Suck/5 votes and therefore qualified for the list. From there, I subtracted the percentage of They Suck/5 votes from 100. This leaves a player with the percentage of their added up positive votes (6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 counting for their given amounts). For example, let's pretend that a player earned a combined They Suck/5 score of 47.5%. Now, let's subtract this from 100. This leaves us with 52.5%. Now, let's say this player earned a score of 145 when I totaled up their 6/7/8/9/10s. Their total ends up being 52.% of 145 which is 76.1. The math would look like this. 100 - 47.5% = 52.5% of 145 = 76.1 But wait. There's another absolutely eye-rolling twist! I wasn't pretending. That math is for the first player on our list, #25 - James Rhine of BB6. Guess I just Coup D'etat-ed your asses. #25 - James Rhine, BB6 (Score: 76.1)
James played an otherwise great game marred by one little flaw. With ample opportunity to fully explain his bible swearing antics to the Sovereigns, he instead remained totally silent. Either he was oblivious to his true alliance-mates questioning his double dealings or he felt they would be smart enough to understand that he'd never give up the numbers in their six person alliance. Unfortunately, Howie landed HOH at the wrong time and everything spiraled out of control. Truthfully, Mr. Rhine got off to a great start. He quickly divided the house by whispering falsities concerning Janelle to Ivette, and vice versa which caused irreversible damages and helped set the stage for BB's greatest team against team rivalry. While James's lies to Ivette about wanting to put up Howie & Rachel may have cost him the game, it truly wasn't a bad move. Having the foresight to recognize that he and Sarah were fifth and sixth wheels in the alliance, his moves with the Friendship would've helped him and his girlfriend stay under the spotlight whenever HOH was in the wrong hands. Had Ivette not given word back to her cohorts, the Friendship would've targeted the Howie/Rachel and Kaysar/Janelle pairs whenever they had the chance, probably leaving James & Sarah the last couple standing. Also, bonus points to James for wanting to put up April/Maggie if he won HOH. Not only did he recognize that he could only win against the remaining SOVs but he also knew the correct (and therefore, most threatening) Friendsheep to target and the best chance at ripping their evil alliance apart whereas Howie and Janelle continually made bizarre decisions on who to go after each week.
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I can already tell that this is going to be an epic list just by the way you added up the totals for the rankings. It seemed tres complicated. Can't wait
to see the other 24 on the list.
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Clues For Upcoming List-eeples (List Peoples)
1: A hamster undone by two hamsters being related. (Jase?) 2: Someone who plenty dismissed at the time but was probably the best player in their given season. (Jee?) 3: The first appearance of Donatownage? |
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Hooray! Sharon managed to make the list! No idea. Evel Dick plz.
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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor |
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#24 - Sharon Obermueller, BB9 (Score: 88.7)
Sharon was robbed. Twice. First, she's partnered with her ex-boyfriend who obviously had never seen the show before (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because nobody outside of the autism clinic is that clueless). Her exit because of his actions was the most unfortunate couples eviction of the season because at least both parties were at fault in the Jen/Parker and Alex/Amanda disasters. Sharon, on the other hand, had been deftly using her personality strengths (that is not having one) and therefore offended absolutely nobody in the house, making her exit all the more irritating. So, perhaps her and her boyfriend are meant to be if opposites attract? Anyway, the cosmos aligned and Neil was sent packing, bringing Sharon back into the game by default and teaming her with another person on our countdown (I love fucking with all of you). What's interesting about this bizarre incident of luck for Sharon is that it isn't bizarre at all. It is Sharon. Hear me out. Sharon is the most cosmically balanced player in Big Brother history. Her boyfriend cheats on her because he wanted to spend a night with a personality for a change. Bad for Sharon. This in turn gets them on Big Brother. Great for Sharon. Jacob then lets his mouth run wild and gets them both evicted. Bad for Sharon. Later, Neil acquires Parkinson's and is forced to leave the house or else he'd forget he's there. Great for Sharon. Sharon, upon her return, ends up nominated about six times every week. Bad for Sharon. She survives every time so the trips to the block all cancel each other out. Great for Sharon. Overall, her gameplay is the cookie cutter example of how anyone should approach Big Brother. Lie low, lose challenges, be nice but keep your existence inconspicuous at the same time. Ok, it's boring as fuck all to watch, but you can't blame her. It's how a certain doctor not on our list won the second season of this show. God, I sure love screwing with all of you. Oh, and since it'd have inevitably come up for discussion, I'll bite. It's highly ironic that the only people she knew well in the house (and knew of her) were the hamsters, yet she missed the question about their sibling-ness. Guess that was the reverse cosmos finally taking charge. Would she have won the game had she won that HOH and the one thereafter? Absolutely not. Sorry, but two votes from Sheila/Adam/Ryan (depending on which wasn't in the Final Two) and two from Matt/Natalie would've resulted in an inevitable 4-3 loss. But you can bet, if it were an eight person jury, she would've been sitting at the end, being crowned co-winner by a 4-4 vote.
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