WylDawg wrote:It doesn't take a genius to conclude that because the Donatos were not on the list that Jen would be much higher than anticipated. If the poll were more representative of the board as a whole, at least one Donato would be on the list and Jen would probably have finished in the lower half.
And people say us Jonathan fans are delusional. We're at least rational enough not to consider him the ninth most strategic Survivor player of all times.
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30 Greatest Big Brother Gamers (Finished! BB10 Results On Page 17!)
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Posts: 1646 (09/04/08 6:01 PM) Registered user |
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Posts: 1522 (09/04/08 6:16 PM) |
RobVanStratus wrote: bitch please, as opposed to dick's and dani's amazing social game of hating on everyone? CG didn't played better than her, some ppl are taken out of the game for being threats, that being jen's case, some ppl get to F5-4-3 for sucking (CG, jameka, sheila) jen's game may not have been golden, but ppl had started warming up to her, and weren't really after her had there not been DR interference
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Posts: 7055 (09/04/08 8:09 PM) Registered User |
Dick/Daniele's bashing everyone managed to get them to the F2, where Jen's social game got her kicked out in 8th place. So Dick/Daniele>Jen
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Posts: 930 (09/04/08 8:14 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Jen's social game was fine after a couple of weeks.
She was one of the people who I respect for deciding that putting personal issues aside to advance was a smart thing to do. But even saying that, and as much as I <3 Jen, I'm glad she's out now. She probably should've taken like 15th or something, honestly. |
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 3489 (09/04/08 8:19 PM) Registered User |
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor wrote: Code word for "There really is no way to defend Jen being ranked this high". :P Dick/Daniele being assisted so much by diary room manipulation, twisted editing, America's player, having a family member in the house, and Zach the dumbass making one of the worst moves of all time by not using the veto at F5 to get Daniele evicted managed to get them to the F2 Fixed. |
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Posts: 7056 (09/04/08 8:38 PM) Registered User |
So Cowboy and Nakomis were put in the game together and failed, as did Natalie/Adria. So having a family member doesn't guarantee F2.
And Zach's stupidity was his poor gameplay, not theirs. There was no DR manipulation, just delusional people thinking the game is rigged. Dick/Daniele>Jen and it's a shame they didn't get ranked and this dumb cunt made #9 on the best players of ALL TIME list. I'm sorry, but 8th place doesn't make you one of the best of all time. |
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WylDawg |
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Posts: 16155 (09/04/08 9:33 PM) Registered user |
Jen vs. Donatos pointless and endless debate take #734 |
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Posts: 5904 (09/04/08 9:44 PM) Registered User |
Which is exactly what I was afraid of. All I'll say is that I can't comprehend why Donato fans think the tactics of pissing everyone in the house off,
whining, and being absolute bullies was some sort of winning strategy or ever can be. It hindered their own game, and it's ridiculous enough that some
people in the house (i.e. Zach) absolutely thought it helped them get further in the game.
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Posts: 4181 (09/04/08 9:53 PM) Registered User |
JENSA MEMBER HERE.
The Donatos suck. I think that solves everything. Two horrible players making it to the end through the worst circumstances ever (as quid pointed out) really dampers an overall decent season with other people like Jen/Eric/Amber/Jessica/Kail who sparked interest or controversy. Watching the donatos was just sad. Dick was entertaining at first until he poured iced tea on Jen. Then he crossed the line. Daniele was just jealous, bitchy, self-absorbed, whiny, and horrible overall. Jen making the 8th spot is sorta ridiculous since she did have a weak social game to start off (which is why it made her eventual eviction that much more tragic when her game started to finally pick up) which is hard to shrug off. Jen <3 |
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 3494 (09/05/08 4:57 AM) Registered User |
RobVanStratus wrote: The S5 pairs were irrelevent. They weren't competing against the Donatos. In S8 the Donatos had a family member in the house. 12 other people did not. Four infact had enemies in the house. That was a ridiculous advantage that the Donatos had. 95% of the people who play Big Brother would know that there was no chance in hell Dick or Daniele would ever vote each other out, making Zach third at best. 95% of people who play Big Brother would have played the veto in that situation so their biggest threat, in Zach's case Daniele, would be voted out. The Donatos lucked out tremendously that he was so stupid. Let's view a scenario that actually happened in BB8, shall we? Player A wants to vote in a way that is detrimental to the Donatos Player A goes into the diary room Player A comes out of the dfiary room and suddenly is going to vote in a way beneficial to the Donatos, saying that the diary room convinced them to do that. How is that not DR manipulation? How about this one? Jessica: Eric, use the veto so I can put one of the Donatos up. Eric: I want to use the veto so Jessica can put one of the Donatos up. Grodner: I'm not allowing you to use the veto. It was... RIGGED! Placement always doesn't indicate how good a player you are. Dick & Daniele got where they did due to absurd advantages 12 other players didn't get and rigging of the game. They're not top 25 material. |
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kmill |
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Posts: 1650 (09/05/08 2:20 PM) Registered user |
I stand by what I said earlier (and why I did not participate in this poll):
ANYTHING INVOLVING SEASON 8 CANNOT BE OBJECTIVELY RANKED |
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Posts: 24 (09/05/08 2:31 PM) |
I am very glad that Jen Johnson is in the list of greatest BB gamers...:)
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Posts: 5449 (09/05/08 3:18 PM) |
Jen being this high on the list completely undermines its credibility, because it basically reveals the list to be a favorites contest that just happens to
have Will and Danielle at the top of the list because it can't look TOO rigged.
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Posts: 1651 (09/05/08 4:27 PM) Registered user |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: All it reveals is that the Jen fans went unchecked by Donato fans. I insist that this is why she is in this spot. |
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RobVanStratus |
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Posts: 7057 (09/05/08 7:18 PM) Registered User |
You people are ridiculous. You can't blame Dick or Daniele for the game that they played. They didn't break the rules, they played by them. They were
lucky in having America's Player in the game, but you can't blame it all on a biased edit. If you watched the feeds, you could see the same person on
the show they aired 3 days a week. And those same people that watched the feeds and the episodes would vote in the America's Players polls. Have we already
forgotten the online petitions to get rid of Dick when Jen tried to take his lit cigarette out of his hand and burned herself? Clearly people didn't all
like Dick, but they still hated Jen more. If Dick was SOOOOO awful, America could have voted him out, but they didn't.
Face facts, Jen played a terrible game. She got backed into a corner and then broke the rules of the game, then got what she deserved and was kicked out of the house. Dick/Daniele never broke rules, especially Dick even though all of you claim he harmed Jen. She tried to grab a lit cigarette, chances are when you do that you might get burned. It's like playing with an open fire and crying that you get hurt. Dick screamed at Jen and may have made threats against her, but he never physically harmed her or came close to, unless you are so fucking stupid that you think iced tea can harm someone. Past players like BB2 Justin actually threatened someone and held a knife to someone's throat, he was kicked out for threatening to kill someone because he actually came close to doing it. Dick and Daniele > Jen. They walked away with the cash and she walked away a disgusting, bitter slut. She can have the popularity of you idiotic horny bastards, but she's still a nobody to most of the world anyways. |
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Posts: 5913 (09/05/08 10:35 PM) Registered User |
Rob, your whole argument falls to shit right away. People watching the feeds, the unedited, unbiased show hated Dick, hence why they made that petition and
hence why he was loathed here by at least 80% of Sucks. Feed watchers aren't even a single percent of the audience. Not even one fucking percent. The rest
of the country saw a hammy watered down three days a week featuring food competitions, HOH competitions, veto competitions, veto ceremonies, HOH rooms, a live
vote reveal, interviews with house guests friends and family, and a live interview. After that took up roughly 1/2 the time, they saw Dick edited down to a few
angry words that were used in "strategic situations" rather than the fact that he nagged on these people all day. This presented him as a hero,
putting his neck on his line for his daughter when in truth he acted like an asshole out of the game at every opportunity. Show Dick talking about how he wants
to anal rape Jen until she bleeds to death and I'm positive America would've changed their tune.
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Posts: 1526 (09/05/08 11:29 PM) |
RobVanStratus wrote: 1st- uhm, i don't recall them showing how much of a whiny, self entitled, self absorbed, vain, cunty, bitchy, bratty twat Daniele was, cus SHE WAS that, you can't say she wasn't cus i know those "it's sooOOOOOOO FRUSTRAAAAATIIIIIIIIIING" and " i HATE this ppl" and her whole "life sucks poor me" attitude wasn't part of my imagination, and i know america would liked a twat like that, they would only show the bitch crying over dick, and they would show dick trying to make amends with her, and saying he knows he sucks but he wanted to make it all better and whatnot, that was B-fucking-S and they didn't showed dick for the misogynistic disgusting prick that he was, they didn't showed all the shit he spewed, but oh someone says something bad about them, well let's make them the devil (Jen, Kail, Dustin, Amber, Jameka) 2nd - as i recall, when jen stepped out the door she didn't give a fuck about any of those 2, as oppossed to the other two, that couldn't wait to tell the first person that would listen how much a bitch jen was, if i remember correctly somebody posted one of dicks blogs some months ago, and guess what..... he was talking shit about jen SHOCKER |
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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor |
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Posts: 5917 (09/06/08 6:14 PM) Registered User |
Dick wants to be a universally liked player on the level of Will Kirby or Janelle Pierzina so of course he's pissed the fuck off that Jen was actually the
CBS poll favorite at one point and that half the audience think the show was rigged in his favor.
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Kitty Pryde1 |
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Posts: 5459 (09/06/08 6:41 PM) |
Jen still doesn't deserve to be anywhere near this list if the Donatos are off. You can call the game rigged or whatever, but still, eighth place is
eighth place, especially when you beat out someone like Maggie, or Baller.
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YemaGrl1988 |
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Posts: 1721 (09/06/08 7:05 PM) Registered user |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: OR JAMEKA!!!!1!11!! |
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