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Posts: 154 (06/26/08 9:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How would you sabatouge the missions if you were the Mole? Episode One Waterfall Jump - Play up a belief of heights early on. Miss the bag. Beach Hunt - Hope to be a scavenger and bury/cover the right items up on the beach. Try to persuade the group the goat wouldn't make it. If I was a timekeeper go slow and if I was the other job just try to disprove the items. Episode Two Uphill Battle - Try to be on the soccer team and encourage the overweight (Liz & Craig) to put all their energy in the game tiring them out and allowing them to relax while trying to get to the mountarails. Pigs Fly - Try to stahl and search shops for a long amount of time or try missing the pigs Episode Three Find Clothes - Talk about morales and not do the challenge. I totally forgot the other challenge Episode Four Selfish and Selfless - Be on the Selfless team and cry and bitch about the bricks. Slow the team down and try to carry the weight so I had an excuse as to why Im going slow. Question Game - Get the question right
Redhead9015		#1	[-]
Posts: 768 (06/26/08 9:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Does the mole actually have any freedom in the way they sabotage or do they just make it seem that way at the finale? I'm guessing everything they do has to go through the producers first (if they have any say at all).
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#2	[-]
Posts: 3957 (06/26/08 9:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Of course they have to improvise.Kathryn made a suggestion to the producers for the "dice game" in season 1 so she could throw it easily. If I were the Mole? No clue,it would depend on me actually being there
greenscreener		#3	[-]
Posts: 82 (06/27/08 3:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	From Bill's book, it doesn't seem like The Mole is actively told what to do. For whatever reason, the producers of this show like to give their Mole very little guidance. Bill mentioned that he only had about 5 minutes with the producers each morning and it was all a big rush. He was told the basics of upcoming missions for the next 3 days, sometimes told which group to be in, and spent his time thinking of ways to sabotage the missions. Compared to the UK Mole producers, who go over every little detail with their Mole and even (secretly) communicate with their Mole during missions, the US producers rely more on their Mole's ability to adlib (likely due to the fact that everything is kept hidden, even from members of their own production team). As for how I would sabotage the missions, I obviously wouldn't sabotage every one. A lot of the sabotaging done in the US series is adaptive. So if I go in with the plan that I will be the 10th person to attempt the mission and succeed, but it turns out that 8 of the 9 people that went before me failed, chances are I will adapt my strategy to match what's going on in my surroundings, and thus fail as well. But sometimes, the producers will specifically tell their Mole not to let whatever mission succeed (like with the Exemption or Bust mission in CM:Y). With that said, here's my breakdown for each mission so far: - Falls: Join jumping group, if 3 people that went before me failed then fail as well, otherwise grab bag - Crusoe: Join scavenger or appraiser group, if scavenger - bury items/retrieve only 1 proper item/waste time, if appraiser - rush scavengers & time keepers/use up all guesses - Summit Race: Join bike team (soccer team leaves very little room for single person sabotage) and arrive at the summit first - Pigs: Join pig searching team, hide pigs, look in places where other teams have already passed through, rush to get back to prevent team from getting more pigs - Luge: Join trust nobody team, give incorrect order of fruits - Dress Code: Keep team away from laundromat - Midas Rush: Join selfish team, take less bricks and reach the top first, keep discussion going on the exemption giveaway - Who Said That: Write ambiguous statement in my journal, take a long time thinking about my answer so that someone gets desperate and disqualifies themselves
brafish		#4	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/27/08 7:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Obviously you can't throw every challenge, but here's how I'd do it: -Falls: If I can find out what's in my bag, grab it if it's empty, miss it barely if it has cash. If I don't know, then miss it. -Crusoe: Try to be the "whiner" and assign poorly. If you're a scavenger, split into different areas and never find anything. Always bring back something that isn't right. Appraiser, waste guesses. As a clock operator I'm hustling as fast as possible and making my partner move as fast as possible to quickly tire both of us out. -Summit Race: Make sure athletic people are biking -Pigs: Be the pig shooter. Either vary the aim or go slow -Luge: Talk very very briefly after the finish line, or go as fast as possible down the track. -Dress Code: Join a team of 3, concentrate on getting my own clothes first but making it hard for everyone else in my group -Midas Rush: Make sure I'm in the selfish team and make sure we all take few bricks so we can reach the top first. Then be stubborn about the exemption so that either they give it to me or there isn't a consensus -Who Said That: Just plain guess wrong. I don't think I'd try to throw that one. Or perhaps over-react when my journal is burned.
AlwaysAwesomeAdam		#5	[-]
Posts: 162 (06/27/08 1:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So far I'm the best mole. How can u not during the soccer game make the fat people exhausted? Just keep running along side of them and tire them out so they can't make it up the hill in time. Its so subtle its barely sabatouge. In the Luge missions which I forgot about I'd just reverse the order of two fruits. And anyone who would pick to be on the selfish team during the brick mission is a bad mole. You'd have to 3 stubborn teammates on your team to give up that money. Whine and bitch on the selfless team and waste time so your WHOLE team doesn't make it up the hill. Be the weaker link early on, not the weakest but one of the weaker ones when it comes to physical task. You'd have an excuse.
CatLurvesDorothy		#6	[-]
Posts: 147 (06/27/08 1:29 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AlwaysAwesomeAdam wrote: So far I'm the best mole. If we're actually going to be judging get someone who'd be impartial. Srsly.
Screerider		#7	[-]
Posts: 21987 (06/27/08 2:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What? He's always awesome!
AlwaysAwesomeAdam		#8	[-]
Posts: 163 (06/27/08 5:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Damn straight, even if its in my own head. 2 snaps and a twirl.
Will		#9	[-]
Posts: 29435 (06/27/08 7:51 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'd be on the Luge mission as the blindfolded person and either: 1. repeatably ask questions as to confuse the talking person 2. talk to get disqualified because as the blind person I would not know when it end. 3. freak out and take off my blindfold early, play off that I'm getting sick from moving while blindfolded. and if I was the speaker, just keep repeating myself so they get confused like Nicole did. Or just say "grapes" instead of red/white and mix up the order if they ask.
Crowlass		#10	[-]
Posts: 1541 (06/29/08 12:22 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	- Falls: Grab the bag and drop it while falling. - Crusoe: Join the clock group and take the spot on top of the deck. Pour out most of the sand on the deck and barely fill the timer. This would rush the other groups. No one could really see what Ali was doing up there anyways. - Summit Race: Be the goalie on the soccer team and do an awesome job. It doesn't matter if the kids score or not, so you might as well dominate in a useless part of the field (why did they even need a goalie?) This could help throw people off in a mission that would probably be lost anyways. - Pigs: If on the pig searching team: Convince the group to go too far away from the farm in seasrch of pigs. Make it so the sling shot people need to rush the pigs you bring back (if you even get back in time.) If on the pig catching team: Do a really shitty job catching pigs and blame it on bad launchers and having to work with the elderly (seriously who could blame someone for being bad at catching pigs in a blanket.) - Luge: Repeat the incorrect order of the fruits right before the finish line. If your partner corrects you, it will be after the finish line and you get disqualified. If this happens yell at them right after crossing for breaking the rules and make a big deal out of them throwing the mission. If they don't correct you, use the wrong order. - Dress Code: Freak out a little before hand about humiliating yourself on national tv. That would hopefully convince a few people worried about their image to not do the challenge. Then do really well in the challenge and place blame on the people that quit. - Midas Rush: If Craig was on my team I would convince our group that we won't win the exemption and stock everyone up with more bricks than they can handle. Try to make it look like I want to be a hero and put tons of money in the pot. Hopefully the group will go too slowly to finish. Don't speak the whole way up, and if it looks like your group will be successful, fake altitude sickness. Then blame it on trying to take too many bricks. - Who Said That: Write something not true/absurd about someone and say it was only a first impression. If they offer you 2000 dollars to admit to saying something KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. After Victoria said that I completely crossed her off my suspect list because a mole would never give a free 2 grand into the pot.
Effie Black		#11	[-]
Posts: 121 (07/01/08 3:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	- Who Said That: Write something not true/absurd about someone and say it was only a first impression. If they offer you 2000 dollars to admit to saying something KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. After Victoria said that I completely crossed her off my suspect list because a mole would never give a free 2 grand into the pot. isnt that the point though, throwing people off your trail? It would be pretty smart to admit to it I think, because you are enough to the pot to not seem molicious, but not even to really impact.
Crowlass		#12	[-]
Posts: 1554 (07/01/08 10:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	isnt that the point though, throwing people off your trail? It would be pretty smart to admit to it I think, because you are enough to the pot to not seem molicious, but not even to really impact. Yea that's true. I guess if the mole admitted it, then it would throw people off the trail. I didn't even think about that. The mole could have fooled me if I was out there....
Screerider		#13	[-]
Posts: 22020 (07/02/08 10:44 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But if the Mole constantly helps "to throw people off the trail", what's the point of having a Mole? Just call him The Helper, instead. The Mole should be able to sabotage and get away with it because it would "blend in" with the sabotaging from all the other Players'. And best of all would be a scenario where The Mole wouldn't even be known to have sabotaged, like your "keeping you mouth shut" example. He draws zero attention to himself and takes money out of the pot. The Mole would be foolish to ignore that opportunity. On the flip side, overtly drawing attention to your sabotage would actually make people think you're NOT The Mole, because the presumption is that the Mole would be subtle. If it was "speak up and we'll take money from the pot", the Mole should very well go ahead and speak up. Everyone would be astounded at first, with everying saying "You're The Mole?!?!"... But later they would think "No way would The Mole be that obvious, it must have been a Player's Move, to make us all think THEY are The Mole. The Mole has to be someone else...." I'd love to see a season were The Mole just fucks people over out in the open.
TimmyTAR		#14	[-]
Posts: 410 (07/02/08 4:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Screerider wrote: But if the Mole constantly helps "to throw people off the trail", what's the point of having a Mole? Just call him The Helper, instead. The Mole should be able to sabotage and get away with it because it would "blend in" with the sabotaging from all the other Players'. And best of all would be a scenario where The Mole wouldn't even be known to have sabotaged, like your "keeping you mouth shut" example. He draws zero attention to himself and takes money out of the pot. The Mole would be foolish to ignore that opportunity. On the flip side, overtly drawing attention to your sabotage would actually make people think you're NOT The Mole, because the presumption is that the Mole would be subtle. If it was "speak up and we'll take money from the pot", the Mole should very well go ahead and speak up. Everyone would be astounded at first, with everying saying "You're The Mole?!?!"... But later they would think "No way would The Mole be that obvious, it must have been a Player's Move, to make us all think THEY are The Mole. The Mole has to be someone else...." I'd love to see a season were The Mole just fucks people over out in the open. They do have a Mole like that; Nicole. ;) Falls: Be one of the first few people to go, and miss the bag, whether it had money in it or not (probably not since I'm a fatass). People would assume that going first is more of a test run and it would be "okay" to miss it. If one of the last, grab the stupid thing and hope that it doesn't have money in it. Crusoe: If the appraiser, try to ring the bell and rush the decisions. Try to get any five items on it and ring the stupid bell. If I was to try to find items, bring back nonsensical things and steer people away from the real items. If a timekeeper, play off the stereotype of being out of shape and make the time go by faster, causing everyone to rush. If the whiner, assign the finders first, then the timekeepers, and leave behind some of the more...well..dumb people as the appraisers. Race: Try to get the most athletic people to go to the top of the mountain. At the soccer field, play off the fact that I'm tired and keep missing goals, but try to score on the penalty kick. Once going back up the hill, seperate the groups the spend time taking a "shortcut." Pigs: Break the pig if a catcher to win the Exemption and miss as much as I can without drawing notice to myself. If a finder, spend time going to nonsense places, searching mailboxes, people's homes, and THEN go to the stores where other people have all ready been there. Maybe drop a pig along the way because I'm clumsy. Luge: Don't be specific with the colors of different fruits and be vague on the produce. Before the finish line, ask my partner, "Did you get all that?" hoping that they'll ask me to say them again after we had already crossed the finish line. Dress: Play off the fact that I'm really shy and self-conscious (which I conveniently am), and say that I might not want to do the challenge. Steer people away from the laundromat. I can speak Spanish, and if no one else in my group can, use incorrect Spanish vocabulary and say that "I'm rusty with my Spanish." Start random conversations with the locals and not get any clothing. Midas: Stock up on bricks and try to make a whole lot of money, even though that would mean that we probably wouldn't finish in time. Carry some bricks in my hand, and leave some behind when it came time to carry the scale. Fake altitude sickness, hypothermia, and slow the group down. If by some miracle we make it to the top first, start changing who should get the exemption if it looks like they're about to agree on someone. Journal: If I know for a fact who said it, go with who also might say it, and think that "oh, that was my second guess." When my stuff was read, and it's obvious that it was me, I'd confess to it. When it comes time to the journal burning, try to save my journal, thinking that it'll give me an exemption and everyone else's journals will be spared. Chains: If people want me to go early, I'll happily leave and not take the exemption. However, I would put discontent in people's heads by trying to make it seem like some people would go for the exemption and say that "I don't trust them." When it gets down to the wire, say that I can't trust people and not make people leave, unless they give their word that they won't take the exemption. If that doesn't work, and it's me left, take the exemption and say "no one's getting hurt by me getting the exemption, so y'all shouldn't be all up in arms about it." Travelers: Be the traveler and actually make it seem like I want to try the challenge. If people want to go through with it, and I'm given something stupid, like a conquistador outfit or the llama, part way through the course, complain and attempt to quit. Go as slow as I can and blame the mode of transportation as not being practical and slow. If people want to quit, let them quit and ride in vans. Also, throw lemons at people.
WylDawg		#15	[-]
Posts: 15748 (07/02/08 4:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For the chains mission, I would've egged on someone hard-headed (i.e Paul or Nicole). Keep telling them that they are untrustworthy, selfish c.unts who will probably take the exemption, to the point where they figure "Fuck it! They hate me anyways, so I might as well take it."
TimmyTAR	Bump	#16	[-]
Posts: 534 (08/04/08 9:29 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Grapes: If I was a runner, take my time going through the vineyard to get the wine bottles. I'd try not to be on the trendmill, because I would not only die, but blow my cover since I would have to bow out early. If I was a thinker, come up with different strategies to come up with the answers or read off one digit wrong on the cards. Once they say that they didn't find it, THEN reveal your mistake and correct them. Or blame them for their incompetence. Swing: This mission seemed really impossible, so I would actually try at this, but maybe go for the $4,000 zones and not the bullseye. When asked to guess the number, and I haven't had an exemption yet, go the TPIR route and bid $2,000 and say that I wasn't confident that we were going to do that well. If I'm correct, yay, exemption. If not, oh well. It wouldn't have affected the pot anyway. Figure: With whatever team I'm on, get at least one compuation wrong, so that will waste time later on, especially if I'm on the dumb team. If on the smart team, help out as least as possible, but remember my number when it comes time. If we get one wrong, steer clear of the correct answer when we're all trying to figure it out and go for the one that might be plausible. Send the other dumb member to get the number, but immediately disregard it when they come back since they're wrong. Ticket: Even the Mole as a heart, so I wouldn't want to sabotage this mission. If someone trusted me, I would go through the questions as fast as I could, then repeat their answer so I could remember it. When it's my turn to answer questions with my trustworthy person, come up with answers as fast as I can, even if they are a little bit wrong. Get through all the questions, hopefully. View: If I was someone with those goggles on, I would know immediately that it was reversed since I'd test them out before I even started my tasks. Use my touch in the box, but take a while. Try to go for the soccer goal, but miss just a little bit. Attempt the tea, but so slow and steady. When it came time for the bridge, freak out, and go as fast as I can to get that chalk and over to the other side and write the message. If I was the operator, go for interesting angles, but keep the view in such a way that they would still be able to figure it out. Cell: Go for that exemption. That puzzle was extremely easy, and once I'm going for it, fire like mad at the players to put as least money into the pot as possible. If I was too slow and had to run through the course, do that. I'd be more motivated to not give the shooter the exemption rather than not put money in the pot. Try my damnedest to not get shot, and run like hell through the course.

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