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A Dying Clown wrote:

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I don't think Peggy/Claire were especially OTTP (except their ridiculous, but brilliant, farewell) - showing them complaining so often, along with oversleeping, was not the sort of thing they'd leave in if they wanted to them to get such an extreme positive edit (Dave/Margaretta and Bob/Joyce were much more loveable). I'd say the first four boots were varying shades of P then everyone else except Danny/Oswald (P) and Tara/Wil (N) were M.

BQs on All-Stars first-half = UTR2. BQs in second half = CPM4. %@*#%?

A word on the BQ editing, and how I'm nowhere near the same area as many of you:
Season 10: BQs start out as, well, beauty queens. Have a moment of bad-assedness in Monglia. Have a moment of type-affirmation in Vietnam. India is where things pick up - the forming and breaking of alliance with Peter (and the subsequent mouth-covering) was some much-needed development. They get a crapload of negativite SPV (basically how others see them) courtesy of Bama in the Kuwait airport, as well as negative SPV from everyone in Morocco. Despite this, they were driven and goal oriented and, while Stepfordish, were really pushing to be the first female winners. *I* would probably rate them as CPN, but with a weak N because I consider lasting impression over aggregate rankings.

TARAS: Fortunately/unfortunately, they manage to self-edit between seasons, so they're definitely positive but less complex. ADC had a very nice breakdown of the BQs. In fact, if I were to rate them in each episode, it would probably end up:
UTR / UTR / MOR / MOR / MORPP / UTR / UTRP / MORP / (very weak) CPP / MOR / CPM / MORP / OTTP, with the weak CPP arising from the personal insight re: paper route and the complement to Charla/Mirna (it was either this episode or next) and the yielding of Eric/Danielle who took it negatively.

While I'm at it, here are my ratings for TARAS.

JVJ - INV - Yes, UTR is more applicable, but they were pretty invisible.
Kevin/Drew - OTTM - OTTN is arguable, but I think the positivity towards each other balances out the negativity towards Phil and Kentucky.
David/Mary - OTTP - They're just happy to be there. Also, this is only considering editorial intent, so I must ignore the fact that Mary could be a raging shrew to Dave
Romber - MORN - Um...yeah. Not complex enough to be CPN. Too much visibility to be UTR.
Teri/Ian - UTR - Major edit downgrade.
Joe/Bill - MOR - The Guidos are the TAR version of Jerri. Awesomely negative the first time around, less memorable the second time around.
Uchenna/Joyce - UTR - Helped by their INV boot episode.
Oswald/Danny - MORP - As I mentioned I consider lasting impact over the aggregate rating. That being said, the aggregate rating should be considered, which is why they aren't quite CPP.
Charla/Mirna - OTTP - Duh.
Dustin/Kandice - MORP - See above. I totally just became a Dustin/Kandice watchdog.
Eric/Danielle - MORN - What little tone they did have (Kuala Lumpur, Mozambique, HK) was negative.

Next: One of the teams that received a CPP ranking will be revealed!

ADC, Mary/Peach aren't positive?

Level 5 wrote:

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I definitely wouldn't say that Charla & Mirna were OTTP in All Stars, as much as I adore them. They'd definitely be mixed, and I think I could argue that they're complex because so much of the season is told from their point of view - but defo mixed otherwise we wouldn't have seen stuff like Mirna's nuclear meltdown in the second episode.

Well, they did narrate a lot, but then again, so did Mehlexis. Also, whilst Mirna's batshit crazyness in Chile and Poland would be enough to give them an M, the agressive positiveness in Mozambique (well, they weren't exactly negative), Malaysia (though I suspect that Izad is an automatic P indicator), and even Hong Kong/Macau (since the Yield is strangely edited as being negative*). Not to mention that while Mirna is certainly M, Charla is obviously P. Also, while I do think that we got into their head a lot, many of these instances were basically unsupported by the race (the BQs being shady bitches, for example), which would put more N, but not nearly enough to make their overall rating an M. CPP is certainly possible, but I mean, I already hyped up two CPP people, one of whom will be quite debatable, so...it sticks.

As for the BQs, I thought their "Too Hot to Handle" comment was in jest, and also that was a fairly odd episode for editors to try and tackle, what with the clear separations between people and lack of tone (you could say Eric/Danielle were P, but whatever). I thought that the finale for them was P in how they resolved it; it was OTT in that it was quite a character regression (because as far as we knew the BQs don't constructively have at it save for Vietnam).

Unfortunately Stave won't be CPP. They were hilarious, but somewhat one-note (we're big and fat and have no idea what we're doing - but we're implicitly awesome). Not to mention the whole "slash your tires" thing was clear N. I'd say MORM (which sucks because I really like Steve/Dave).

* I have never really understood why the Yield/U-Turn have always been negatively edited, especially considering it was placed in by the producers. Maybe it's the fact that the recipient teams (and some of the users) have been pissed over its application. I mean, the Yields allowed for Eric/Danielle to (in some people's views) become sympathetic underdogs which is so ugh I can't even tell you. If they could only cast people who understood that they aren't a test of your morality.