S16 Episode 12 Play By Play/Post Show Analysis

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Kirblar		#81	[-]
Posts: 6214 (05/01/08 11:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Uh, how the hell are you reading THAT F3 from the editing?
sunflower101		#82	[-]
Posts: 1195 (05/02/08 1:10 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ChynS wrote: MyBoyGus wrote: birdlady wrote: Yay on Parvati for sticking with her. (I know she knew Amanda could well have the idol, but she's got to also have known that this would make Amanda look very very good to any jury members. Parvati couldn't make the idol go away but she could have blurted it out and blunted the impact.) I agree. I don't like Parvati much, but I do respect her for that. At this point, Parv is beginning to worry about the end game. She knows what she would look like if she put Amanda's name down or spoiled the fact about her hii. I say Parv had no choice but to stick with Amanda and see how the chips fall/ But Cirie on the other hand, I can't figure out her thoughts at this time. She wanted to remove Amanda as well. Or she could have organized the others to target Nat or Alexis. Nat came so close to winning IC she should be seen as a threat. It's a wonder why they are/Cirie is keeping her around. This is just my opinion. Parvati might have been worrying about a fan's alliance too. She probably didn't want to take a chance of the fans having the numbers and going out next. Cire isn't an immunity threat. Alexis/Natalie are an aligned pair. You don't want to go to the final 4 with another aligned pair. She probably also knew that they needed to be split up sooner then later. That is why she probably also talked Amanda into voting out Alexis. She can use the leg excuse to Natalie as to why she voted out Alexis.
hagiz1		#83	[-]
Posts: 129 (05/02/08 2:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lol. from the TC insider video looks like Amanda told Cirie about her finding the hidden idol. coz when Cirie voted for Amanda, she said, this means nothing. It's all part of the plan. So I guess the plan was for Cirie to vote for Amanda so nobody would suspect Cirie to be sided with Amanda, so next episode Cirie won't be a target if Amanda did go home tonight. Nice call Cirie. And why did Parvati insist voting for Alexis? It's because she promised Natalie that she would protect her for this vote hence the Alexis vote.
crocophile		#84	[-]
Posts: 9865 (05/02/08 3:08 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Excellent ep and I think a very good season. Thanks Trix et al! Amanda atoned for her lame China F4 and final TC with a brilliant HI play, and brilliantly exposing Erik. However, Alexis isn't a threat for anything. This is classic SEG, Natalie will eliminate Amanda at the F3 IC and choose Parvati. It's entirely possible Parv is playing it just that way thinking she can win. It won't matter because I suspect Natalie wins this. We were clearly shown that Amanda has the best social game and is the most feared in challenges. Too bad she didn't insist on Natalie going. That's her big mistake this time. Cirie has no way to get herself to final TC once again, and Erik's story is over.
CFmomma		#85	[-]
Posts: 2898 (05/02/08 4:40 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	hagiz1 wrote: lol. from the TC insider video looks like Amanda told Cirie about her finding the hidden idol. coz when Cirie voted for Amanda, she said, this means nothing. It's all part of the plan. So I guess the plan was for Cirie to vote for Amanda so nobody would suspect Cirie to be sided with Amanda, so next episode Cirie won't be a target if Amanda did go home tonight. Nice call Cirie. And why did Parvati insist voting for Alexis? It's because she promised Natalie that she would protect her for this vote hence the Alexis vote. I haven't watched the Insider vids yet but that is bloody brilliant. So hidden alliance = Amanda and Cirie.
Cuttler		#86	[-]
Posts: 102 (05/02/08 5:19 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	birdlady wrote: Why would Cirie and Parv need Erik next episode. Does Amanda team up with Nat? I think Cirie is wrong, and Erik doesn't "do the right thing". The voting comes out 2-2-1, and they have to start fires. Nah, you can't have a 2-2-1 tie outcome because they always revote a tie and only the tied players can be voted for the second time, so who ever voted as the 1 would be forced to break the tie by choosing someone else. Andl also Cerie pointed out today that the fire tie-breaker only occurs at final 4, before that the purple rock of death is still in the rules.
crocophile		#87	[-]
Posts: 9867 (05/02/08 5:58 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It makes sense for Cirie and Amanda to stick together since Parvati had Natalie and Alexis way more in her corner.
AllMenAreIslands		#88	[-]
Posts: 23614 (05/02/08 6:26 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: Uh, how the hell are you reading THAT F3 from the editing? Well, Parvati has a strong edit, Natalie just got on the scene but looks to be in the thick of things, and Erik keeps winning immunities. That configuration occurred to me last night as well (Parv/Nat/Erik final 3). However, that only happens if Erik does have immunity, otherwise he's gone the minute he doesn't have it. Rather than our winner, Natalie's edit seems perfect for the F2 goat/loser.
jeannie417		#89	[-]
Posts: 36 (05/02/08 8:58 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Trixie, big smooches to you! Thanks for the PBP. I missed the episode last night, and when I went to watch online this morning, I can only see the very first segment and the Immunity Challenge. Nothing else plays (except for the ads of course.) Your PBP let me find out what went on, so thanks again for the great job. waves to AMAI
Trixiego		#90	[-]
Posts: 14317 (05/02/08 9:52 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	jeans! (miss you)
SurvivingInLA		#91	[-]
Posts: 70 (05/02/08 12:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I suspected a hidden Cirie/Amanda agreement, at least, because they went after each other @ the reward challenge/chop so early. Seemed odd.
birdlady		#92	[-]
Posts: 1235 (05/02/08 12:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'll be curious to hear more about what was going on in the reward challenge. Did Amanda intend to try to go to exile all along, or was she just making the best of a bad thing? I was wondering how it was that they let Amanda go off by herself to dig up the idol. We've seen a couple of times that Cirie is pretty aware of who is where. I was thinking Amanda did some awesome acting job, but a simpler explanation would be that Cirie was helping.
GrenadeJumper85		#93	[-]
Posts: 4542 (05/02/08 12:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	From watching Cirie's voting confessional, she was in on the plan to blindside Alexis with the idol. Back during the conversation where Cirie was telling Amanda about voting for her and the purple rock and all that, Cirie offered to tie the vote up but Amanda told her no then we got a cut away from them. I suspect after that, Amanda told her she had or was about to have the immunity idol. It was evident at TC when Cirie was holding Amanda's hand, then chuckling along with P & A that she was in on it from jump.
rower	Episode 12 Play by Play	#94	[-]
Posts: 1688 (05/02/08 12:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Cirie has always played the numbers and is buring her candles at both ends. Her agreement to stick with Pav/Amanda seemed a bit forced and I'm sure she was cornered into that agreement. If she was so hot on THAT alliance why did she have such a sour look when Amanda pulled out the HII? Her usual smiley face was totally gone....tells me she didn't know about the HII. Was I the only one who noticed that Natalie and Alexis indicated that it was Cirie who mistakenly believed she was in control of the game (but was not). Everyone else voted that it is Pavarti who mistakenly "thinks" she is control of the game. If everybody believes that neither Pavarti nor Cirie is in control then who is left? Hmmm that would be Amanda. It is clear that Amanda is viewed as controlling the game at this point. Face it, Cirie only has a chance to win if she is up against Alexis and Natalie. I think that Cirie will actively work to try and engineer an Amanda and/or Pavarti boot by aligning with Eric and Natalie but will be thwarted in the end. Great episode.
ratsnsnakes		#95	[-]
Posts: 692 (05/02/08 3:38 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If she was so hot on THAT alliance why did she have such a sour look when Amanda pulled out the HII? Um, from where I was watching Cerie was all big smiles when Amanda pulled out the HII. Only Nat, Alexis and Erik were upset by it. Cerie will definitely play in her own best interest, but I think the threesome between Amanda, Parvati and Cerie will hold. Now if it comes down to F2, it will get interesting since Parv would likely lose to Amanda but not Cerie and Amanda may think her best bet is to go with Cerie as well.
AllMenAreIslands		#96	[-]
Posts: 23629 (05/04/08 5:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	rower wrote: Cirie has always played the numbers and is buring her candles at both ends. Her agreement to stick with Pav/Amanda seemed a bit forced and I'm sure she was cornered into that agreement. If she was so hot on THAT alliance why did she have such a sour look when Amanda pulled out the HII? Her usual smiley face was totally gone....tells me she didn't know about the HII. Was I the only one who noticed that Natalie and Alexis indicated that it was Cirie who mistakenly believed she was in control of the game (but was not). Everyone else voted that it is Pavarti who mistakenly "thinks" she is control of the game. If everybody believes that neither Pavarti nor Cirie is in control then who is left? Hmmm that would be Amanda. It is clear that Amanda is viewed as controlling the game at this point. Face it, Cirie only has a chance to win if she is up against Alexis and Natalie. I think that Cirie will actively work to try and engineer an Amanda and/or Pavarti boot by aligning with Eric and Natalie but will be thwarted in the end. Great episode. Hmm... interesting. What if... Erik has immunity at F5, and he Nat & Cirie target Amanda following her glowing accomplishment at the previous TC, since she appears to have the jury eating from her hand? Then, at F4, Parvati has immunity, and the women get rid of Erik, leaving a Final 3 of Cirie, Natalie & Parvati. In this way, Parvati would have Amanda's vote sewn up, along with Jason's, Alexis' and would only need one other to win. hi jeannie!
Sam Buru		#97	[-]
Posts: 1439 (05/05/08 5:41 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I suspected a hidden Cirie/Amanda agreement, at least, because they went after each other @ the reward challenge/chop so early. Seemed odd. Playing the game. Do you think for a second that Cirie letting Alexis win reward was an accident? Not sure Amanda has the Jury votes all locked up. She has Ozzy and James' vote, that is about it for now.
rower	Play by Play / Post	#98	[-]
Posts: 1689 (05/05/08 2:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, I laughed when I saw Cirie's face because I swear she looked like she had swallowed a lemon. As to her holding Amanda's hand during the vote, that's not a big deal especially if you think they are getting voted out and you want to "show" your love to "get their vote." (And the conversation that Amanda and Cirie had in the jungle, it was Cirie who wouldn't go along with creating a tied vote because she was not going to risk being taken out by a purple rock.) I love Cirie but she has always been number 5 in the O/J/P/A alliance. This is supposed to be the week where a "new" alliance is revealed. I think we are going to see the Natalie / Cirie alliance. I think that it is Pavarti who tries to "seduce" Eric onto their (hers and Amanda's) side but it will fail. Eric is correct in thinking that he has at least a chance against Nat / Cirie but no way would he win against Pav/Amanda. Only thing left to speculate on it what happens for the 1st time in 16 years at TC? It can't be that Eric gives the immunity necklace away because that has been done before (Jenna to Heidi. However, I will note that in that one both Jenna and Heidi ended up safe.) Besides Eric can do the math and he would know that it would leave him vulnerable. I must say that riddle leaves me a bit puzzled.
sunflower101		#99	[-]
Posts: 1237 (05/06/08 1:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crocophile wrote: Excellent ep and I think a very good season. Thanks Trix et al! Amanda atoned for her lame China F4 and final TC with a brilliant HI play, and brilliantly exposing Erik. However, Alexis isn't a threat for anything. This is classic SEG, Natalie will eliminate Amanda at the F3 IC and choose Parvati. It's entirely possible Parv is playing it just that way thinking she can win. It won't matter because I suspect Natalie wins this. We were clearly shown that Amanda has the best social game and is the most feared in challenges. Too bad she didn't insist on Natalie going. That's her big mistake this time. Cirie has no way to get herself to final TC once again, and Erik's story is over. I don't think that Natalie is in the final three. I do think that Parvati realized that she needed to break up Alexis/Natalie, and that if Alexis went that both Amanda/Natalie would want to take her to the final 3. I also think she didn't want to chance Erik teaming up with Alexis/Natalie to take out the favorites.
sunflower101		#100	[-]
Posts: 1238 (05/06/08 1:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivingInLA wrote: I suspected a hidden Cirie/Amanda agreement, at least, because they went after each other @ the reward challenge/chop so early. Seemed odd. I don't think that Amanda wanted to target James in the chop. She also answered that James was the most honest with one of her answers.

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