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Monsieur Muggles |
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Looks like Sarkozy's already moved on too.
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pretzeldential |
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Olberman is like a modern-day Edward R Murrow, so I don't really have anything negative to say about him.
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Jakob Speed |
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pretzeldential |
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That linked blog was borderline incoherent. Does no one know how to write a decent, cogent argument now-a-days?
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Jakob Speed |
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Using incoherent in defense of Olberdouche is rich.
You are too young to have seen news reported, instead of being shaped and slanted. So shut it troll boy. |
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pretzeldential |
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26? Well, perhaps I haven't watched Olberman's Countdown show enough times to have a solid opinion of the man. (I like the Daily Show hour and
newspapers.) But I am a student of reading/writing arguments, the fallacies of logic, and reason itself. So I know when something written is incoherent versus
founded and substantiated.
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Jakob Speed |
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Last consistently objective journalism I have seen was while you were in pampers.
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pretzeldential |
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The most objective journalism, the journals with the highest standards, is New York Times, LA Times, BBC News and PBS documentaries.
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Monsieur Muggles |
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UC, you crack me up. |
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pretzeldential |
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okay
NY Times, LA Times- still the highest journalistic standards in the states, if there is some oversight, there's bound to be pages and pages of investigation BBC News- not sure what makes this source so great, far away from American advertisers perhaps? PBS shows and documentaries like Frontline and Newshour- no advertisers to lean on them like all other news channels
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Jakob Speed |
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BBC News is al jazeera lite now.
The NY Times is blatantly pro Israel (which suits me fine) but is by no way objective, is extremely northern liberal / regional in it's political ideology and in it's news reporting as a total paper. When I want opinion, I read editorials and opinion columnists. Sadly your generation has no clue of the difference between news and spin. |
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pretzeldential |
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The standards of journalism will never change: just the facts- the 5 W's and how- with as little bias as humanly possible. And the sources which hold
themselves closest to these ideals are NYT, LAT, BBCN and PBS.
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merkyl |
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Shouldn't you be out trolling for some kid to fuck, UC?
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pretzeldential |
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huh?
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Jakob Speed |
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you have no clue what news was, but you spout shit in spite of that. You truly are clueless. You can't help yourself, though.
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merkyl |
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You being a pedophile and all.
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Jakob Speed |
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^^^ meant for UC.
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pretzeldential |
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Not a pedophile.
It's not about 'news,' it's about the governing concepts of good journalism. Some sources will hold themselves to high standards of journalism; others won't measure up. The internet began a massive culture lag which is when a society's technology advances more quickly than the society itself, creating a countervailing social movement backwards. It bred a mini-Age of Faith in which all news sources were intensely mistrusted and the basic governing concepts of good journalism were largely unknown or not seen as important by either news media sources or by most viewers. But the culture as a whole will eventually return to reason, will eventually self-correct, and understand which tenants make for good journalism. |
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merkyl |
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So then what do you call it when you have sex with children? Is there some new slang for it?
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B DeBrun |
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any paper that hires a Jayson Blair to fit its own uberliberal slant cannot be called a newspaper
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