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Posts: 5167 (07/09/08 10:02 PM) |
I personally think there's too much of a focus on complex mathematics in high schools and not enough on basic speaking and writing skills. I 100% agree with this statement. There is WAAAY too much focus on complex math that really has no application to the real world, I remember being in Pre-Cal my senior year thinking "When the fuck am I ever going to use this shit after it's all said and done?" |
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CountAsterisk |
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Posts: 3513 (07/09/08 10:04 PM) Registered user |
BobbyBrown06 wrote: Well there's Ireland, Canada and Australia to name a few. |
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thecolbster |
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Posts: 333 (07/09/08 10:10 PM) Registered User |
bob2559 wrote: God you're a tard (no offense Mikey). So large borders are a good reason not to broaden your horizons?
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Gregoire |
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Posts: 28004 (07/09/08 10:11 PM) Registered user |
Schools are only now adjusting to the computer age. Computer culture is corroding verbal and written skills but math skills aren't necessarily devolving at
the same rate. Teenagers still have to use calculators, add up allowances and begin to balance bank accounts at earlier ages. Teen experiences with numbers are
dissolving, but at a lesser rate in the modern age than language, where email, texting and basic slang is destroying basic communication.
But no, in twelfth grade, you have to suffer through trigonometry and calculus, while it is assumed you know English well enough to read Moby Dick? Bitch please. |
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PoChop |
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Posts: 1741 (07/09/08 10:11 PM) Registered user |
Come to think of it at least one or two years of a foreign language was mandatory in my high school and that was a Chicago Public High Skrewel. It was
classified as a college prep high school at the time and who knows what's going on there right now. From what I can tell there are many children there from
immigrant families and they speak a zillion foreign languages, and probably not so much English. When I took the placement exams for the U of I even gained
credit for 4 semesters of college German. It's a shame that I didn't take college German with all the hot frauleins.
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BobbyBrown06 |
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Posts: 8772 (07/09/08 10:26 PM) Registered user |
CountAsterisk wrote: Um, what? |
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Fezzzy |
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Posts: 1683 (07/09/08 10:41 PM) Registered user |
Why is it particularly necessary for the ordinary American know any language beyond English, in the first place? He'd never use it. The only people who
would or should know a language is someone who is thinking about going overseas later in life and that's .1% of the population.
It's like being fluent in some foreign language is like a trophy not a tool. And trophies aren't necessary. For European tourists it's more of a necessity as English is the dominant language in the civilized world. And I'm willing to bet that the average Frenchman isn't fluent in anything but French, and for the average Swede anything but Swedish. It's like we're glorifying Europeans for the multilinguistic skills when really it's only the tourists that are impressive. And even then, tourists speak muddled English. So there's a stereotype at work there too. |
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bob2559 |
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Posts: 5326 (07/09/08 10:43 PM) Registered user |
thecolbster wrote: Are you really so stupid that you are unable to see how being able to get in your car and drive 3000 miles without encountering another language would have a different effect than doing the same thing and encountering 12 different languages? Here, since you obviously are too stupid, let me spell it out for you... In the first case, learning another language or two is a luxury, in the second, it's a necessity, simple common sense would dictate you do it as a basic survival skill. If you're still unable to see the difference between the two then there is really no hope for you. |
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BobbyBrown06 |
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Posts: 8775 (07/09/08 10:47 PM) Registered user |
Fezzzy wrote: Most tourists I've met speak near perfect English. Hell, when i was in Italy most of the Italians spoke above average English...and this was in the small towns. |
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rugslug |
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Posts: 6743 (07/09/08 11:28 PM) Registered user |
how did Obama's promised filibuster of the FISA bill turn out yesterday. Oh wait, he flippity flopped and voted for it without any protest.
December 17, 2007: "Senator Obama unequivocally opposes giving retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies and has cosponsored Senator Dodd's efforts to remove that provision from the FISA bill. Granting such immunity undermines the constitutional protections Americans trust the Congress to protect. Senator Obama supports a filibuster of this bill, and strongly urges others to do the same. It's not clear whether he can return for the vote, but under the Senate rules, the side trying to end a filibuster must produce 60 votes to cut off debate. Whether he is present for the vote or not, Senator Obama will not be among those voting to end the filibuster." June 25, 2008: "My view on FISA has always been that the issue
with phone companies per se is not one that overrides security interests of the American people. I do want accountability, and making sure that, as I've
said before, that somebody is watching the watchers."
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BobbyBrown06 |
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Posts: 8777 (07/09/08 11:43 PM) Registered user |
Obama's flip-flopping > McCain's flip-flopping
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Nat57 |
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Posts: 3679 (07/10/08 12:16 AM) Registered User |
If you traveled across the Country from California to New York and each State spoke a different language, you'd have to learn all those languages as a
kid, like they do in Europe.
I learned French in High School, I forgot everything, if I would have learned Spanish instead, I might be able to really use it now, since there's so
many people who speak Spanish in the US.
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Posts: 6744 (07/10/08 12:43 AM) Registered user |
approximately 4% of Americans vacation in Europe but don't let that stop Obama from playing the elitist's "ugly American" stereotype
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Posts: 8779 (07/10/08 12:47 AM) Registered user |
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Posts: 6745 (07/10/08 2:26 AM) Registered user |
Despite all his flip flopping on FISA, Iraq and abortions at least Obama held onto one of his core values - being embarassed by his country.
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Posts: 6749 (07/10/08 3:20 AM) Registered user |
Bacalaitos wrote:link for european travel http://tinet.ita.doc.gov/view/m-2007-O-001/index.html 13 million people traveled divided by about 300 million Americans is about 4%.
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Posts: 55657 (07/10/08 4:16 AM) Registered loser |
Hate to tell you this but Obama did vote against giving the phone companies immunity, GJ job ignoring that fact though.So there was some other secret vote besides the one he cast yesterday? Jesus you're a moron. |
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Posts: 9404 (07/10/08 5:07 AM) Registered user |
merkyl wrote: Read what McCain said, Merkyl. He is stating exactly how Social Security works and HAS worked for 80 years. It's a "disgrace?" It has to be "fixed?" WTF? |
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merkyl |
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Posts: 55658 (07/10/08 5:24 AM) Registered loser |
Obama ended up voting for the final bill, as did Specter. Feingold voted no.Are you really this retarded? Who cares if he wanted it stripped, he ended up voting for it. It's a "disgrace?" It has to be "fixed?" WTF?It is a disgrace. It's a socialist redistribution of wealth. Anybody right of Lenin knows that. |
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Comrade Jerrifan |
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Posts: 174 (07/10/08 6:14 AM) Registered user |
Something tells me Lenin knew it too. Everyone can recognize redistribution of wealth; the real question is whether you're for it or against it.
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