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unkle greggo |
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Pedophiles should be between you and the center. And there should be at least 50 more dashes between you and center.
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Strange Flute |
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unkle greggo |
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You guys get UC, you get pedophilia.
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rugslug |
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fixed!
Obama------SF ------------------Obama------ CENTER -----Obama---------------------------------Obama--McCain----- TRhoda ---- PPMan --- DeBrun --- Bonestripper ---VMurray----- Greggo ------ Merkyl ------ Rugslug ---- Teeanday ------------------------------------------------------------- ESAD/STFU/KMFA |
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unkle greggo |
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I think I should be further left of Virgin Murray, and you need Obama to the right of McCain for when he swings through the south.
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TobaccoRhoda |
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Lol. Exactly. Both Obama and McCain are marching to the right.
Oh, and the part where he puts me further from the center than himself? Made my day. |
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AuntiPC |
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I haven't been in an OT political thread in years!
Glad to see Merk is still the smartest guy in the room. |
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PassionatePiscesMan |
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I wish these two guys would knock off for the summer, I'm not paying any attention
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glazerboy |
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rugslug wrote: Now I know you are just an elaborate ghostnic - SI, is that you having fun with us?? Just for the record: The Chief of Staff of each armed service is the highest ranking officer of said service, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the highest ranking military advisor to the president. As such, they are the very TOP of the chain of command.I guess if rugslug knew anything about the military he wouldn't make such stupid mistakes. |
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Remington Steele |
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That sounds like The President is The Commander in Chief.
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Gregoire |
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I'm just constantly amused how everybody has to step over the flippity-floppity corpse of John McCain to micro-analyze the subtlest of change in every
phrase Obama utters. Nobody even bothers to parse Ole Mr McGullicutty's shifts on nearly every major political topic, because everybody knows he's a
useless fossilized also-ran who's going to lose the election.
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cg41386 |
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AuntiPC wrote: At what? |
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lilnubber |
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This thread has become comedy.fucking.gold.
Seriously. My stomach hurts from laughing so hard. NOBODY wants to be next to Merkyl. |
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Strange Flute |
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Word on the street is, merkyl needed a hug today
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TobaccoRhoda |
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Just for the record: The Chief of Staff of each armed service is the highest ranking officer of said service, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the highest ranking military advisor to the president. As such, they are the very TOP of the chain of command. Erm, you don't know anything about anything, much less the military. Obama said he would order the joint chiefs to ...withdraw troops or summat? That ain't how it works, and it's sad that Obama knows as much about the chain of command and the purview of the Joint Chiefs as Glazerboi. U.S. & World NEWS ARCHIVE U.S. Military Chain of Command Monday, February 24, 2003 Running from the president to the secretary of defense to the commander of the combatant command, the chain of command for the United States military is spelled out by the Goldwater-Nichols Department of Defense Reorganization Act of 1986. The secretaries of the military departments assign all forces under their jurisdiction to the unified and specific combatant commands to perform missions assigned by those commands. Under the Department of Defense Reorganization Act of 1958, the Departments of Army, Navy and Air Force were eliminated from the chain of "operational" command. Commanders of unified and specified commands now respond to the president and the secretary of defense through the joint chief of staff. The act redefined the functions of the military departments to those of essentially organizing, training, equipping and supporting combat forces for the unified and specified commands. President of the United States • Commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. Secretary of Defense • Principal defense policy adviser to the president • Appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate • Military action taken by the president is passed through the secretary of defense National Security Council • Consists of the president, vice-president, secretary of state and secretary of defense • Serves as the principal forum for considering national security issues requiring presidential decisions • The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff serves as military adviser to the Council; the CIA is the intelligence adviser • The secretary of the treasury, the U.S. representative to the United Nations, the assistant to the president for national security affairs, the assistant to the president for economic policy and the president's chief of staff are invited to all meetings. • The attorney general and the director of the office of national drug control policy attend meetings pertaining to their jurisdiction. If appropriate, other officials are invited. Secretaries of the Military Departments • The secretary assigns all forces to combatant commands except those assigned to recruit, organize, supply, equip, train, service, mobilize, administer and maintain their respective forces. • Secretaries are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff [CJCS] • The chairman is the principal military adviser to the president, secretary of defense and National Security Council. • In carrying out these duties the chairman will consult and seek advice from the other service chiefs and combatant commanders as necessary. • The chairman is appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate for a four-year term The Joint Chiefs of Staff • Comprised of representatives of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force. • They have no executive authority to command combatant forces. • Each of the chiefs is appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. |
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merkyl |
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Gregoire wrote: Whiny boy is right. It's best nobody looks into the details of what Obama is saying. Just sit back and enjoy his good speaking cleanliness. |
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thecolbster |
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No comments about the Iraqis asking for a timetable/pullout of troops?
And how they don't want to host a permanent US military base? |
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B DeBrun |
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Gregoire wrote: McCain's been in the public eye since the Vietnam War, about 30 years ago. A known candidate. Obama, anywhere from 4-6 years. The great unknown. Want to guess which of the two will undergo greater scrutiny? |
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rugslug |
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Gregoire wrote: McCain has changed position on topics OVER HIS 30 YEAR CAREER. Flip/Flopbama has changed his positions on Iraq, abortion, Supreme Court judges, FISA, etc. OVER ONE MONTH. See the difference? Flip/flopbama shows that he doesn't transcend anything but is just the same old double talking politician the Dems have been forcing on the country for years. |
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Strange Flute |
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rugslug wrote: Can right wingers resist the temptation to use talking points, group think and jingo speak?
The word I hear is that Obama is hitting the flip switch like some hopped up huff monkey who can't make up his mind. McContradiction by Robert Gordon and James Kvaal What's worse than flip-flopping? Consistently promising two opposing goals at the same time Post Date Wednesday, July 09, 2008 John McCain's fantastical pledge on Monday to balance the budget by 2013 through massive tax cuts and unidentified budget reductions deserved the bad reviews it received. But the most unfortunate element of his incoherent promise is that it's representative of his policy agenda these days. While the McCain campaign is trying to paint Barack Obama as a flip-flopper, the Arizona Republican is making diametrically opposed policy promises to different audiences at the same time. The contradictions are often in the details, but their obscurity is evidence of the campaign's cynicism. Take McCain's ambitious health care plan. It would give every family a $5,000 health insurance tax credit at a cost of $3.6 trillion, by his campaign's own account. Despite its size, McCain aides have said, repeatedly, that McCain's health care proposal has no net cost. That's because it would tax workers' health benefits, which the Joint Committee on Taxation agrees will raise $3.6 trillion (in its analysis of the Bush proposal that served as the model for McCain's plan). Taxing health benefits solves the budget problem, but it creates another: It raises taxes on tens of millions of middle-class families, according to a Center for American Progress Action Fund report one of us co-authored continued at: The New Republic |
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