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SurvivorArctic |
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God, Courtney sucks. I just can't stand watching her thunk around the stage with that grimace she calls a smile on her fugly face.
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1000Proof |
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I REALLY want the judges to stop licking Mia Michael's balls. I mean she can choreograph the dancers raping a puppy, pissing on the elderly, giving
cunnilingus to their own mothers, and taking a sloppy, wet dump on stage all while wearing KKK outfits with Hitler mustaches and the judges would still swoon
and gush over Mia's creativity and vision.
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Camp Sasquatch |
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I had to work tonight so I missed the show, but I just went to rickey.org and I watched the only dance uploaded, which was the Mark and Comfort hiphop. All I
have to say about that one is....
OH SNAP THAT SHIT WAS SCORCH Sounds like the episode overall was kind of weak though, according to you guys... |
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swim4life227 |
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The judges were singing a completely different tune though.
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lizzo1 |
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It was Parallel Universe Judging again. Most of the dances were meh, but the judges kept praising crap to high heavens. Looking at some other forums, it
looks like there will be some backlash power-voting going on. Good.
I always think they can't do any vote tampering, the show would be over. That has got to be illegal, like tampering with a game show kind of thing. But in the back of my mind, I think they could do it, if they could get away with it. |
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littltimmy |
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Wow, the hate for this show is quite strong here... isn't anyone going to talk about the routines they did like? Or anything they liked at all?
First off, I'm very happy to see Dmitry choreographing another routine, and unlike Benji, it didn't suck at all. I'm surprised the judges gush over every other crappy piece of choreography for such long periods of time (Tyce, Mia, Doreana), yet hardly gave him any recognition. I think that it was a little harsh for Mary to say Mark and Comfort's Foxtrot was the worst she has ever seen. I thought that at worst it was an OK routine. No where near the worst Foxtrot on the show. I am also very pissed about the how they are treating Mark and Comfort, but she didn't say worst Foxtrot, she said one of the worst close holds (and that only was present for about 10 seconds in the entire routine). I still think she was exagerating, since the worst thing I saw about it was how freakishly large Mark's hand looked on Comfort's shoulder. Seriously, it was like an alien was grabbing her. But the good thing about exagerations like that is that people will pick up the phone to defend Mark. I could care less about the treatment of Comfort on this show, since she should have left already, and has been given hip-hop for three weeks in a row (we get it, she can dance hip-hop). The foxtrot did not look that bad at all (maybe to a technician, but not to untrained viewers), and so people will probably disagree with the judges. Although, as unfair as they were towards Mark in that routine, his solo was pretty meh. I mean, his leaps looked like half a jumping jack. I am so over Twitch at this point. Even his solos are losing their entertainment value. But I still can't stand Will even more. His solo was pure nothing, and am I the only one who thought that Courtney kicked his ass in both their routines. He looked at during certain areas of his samba, especially when he was doing the whole "punch in the face then kick in the balls" section. When Jean Mark did it, it looked smooth and had a slight circular motion to it, where as Will made it very stiff and small, and there was almost no movement in between when he was punched in the mouth and when he was kicked in the balls. Courtney really outdanced him in both numbers. At the rate the judges are dumping Mark and over pimping Twitch and Will, Josh or one of the girls (cept Comfort) has to win. I mean, at first, I thought it was a man's season to win, but now I hope that if Josh doesn't do it, a girl takes it home (preferably Chelsie, and then Katee). And whoever invented that IV REAL thing should die right now.
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walkitout3 |
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Twitch had the worst performance of the guys tonight and the blatant favoritism of Will shown by the judges is just nauseating. Also Mark and Gev did not receive the lowest number of votes for the guys last week, it was Will and Twitch. |
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ModernDayClyde |
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How do you know that walkitout3? I mean I would be head over heels if that was actually the bottom 2, but it wasn't. I don't think that anyone would be
able to prove Will and Twitch had the lowest number of votes last week.
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SurvivorArctic |
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Toni is a fucking idiot. I cannot believe they invited this has-been to judge on here. She wouldn't know 'street' if she fell and smashed her face
into it.
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Hanson |
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Toni is a babbling moron. I don't know what the fuck she's going on about. I'd rather have cunty Mia than this belabored has-been. Twitch again got slobbered again on for barely dancing. This is the bed dance all over again. Maybe next time, Mia should just have a Lady Chatterly's Lover theme and have Twitch sit in a wheelchair. Joshua outdanced him five ways to Sunday and got tepid responses other than a hot tamale train shout out. The AT was great, but he wasn't given a lot of dancing to do in the disco. But man -- he can lift the ladies like nobody's bidness. I actually loved Will's James Brown imitation. It's probably the most entertaining he's ever been. It was the only solo that I didn't want cut off. Props to Courtney for the samba, the only time Ive really ever liked her this season. She wasn't that good in the hip hop though. Was it me or were they really trying to make Chelsie look like a bitch this week? Josh looked like he wanted to slap her a few times. The Foxtrot was pretty bad -- the footwork was killer awful and it was all sorts of fumbly. Much worse than Matt and Kourtni's (and obviously, leagues behind Mark and Chelsie's). I don't have a trained eye, but they fucked up all of their passes real hard. Not that she was bad, but these were probably the two worst Katee dances this season. Luckily, she had the Twitch shield to protect her. Twitch hate has become Twitch hardcore hate. I'm almost positive the "four real" bullshit was his idea. He's all about marketing himself to the audience (no lens glasses, Superman style T logo, "Twitchington") and not so much about dancing.
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Joelle96 |
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I am so sick of the judges. They irritated me so much that I am going to vote for Mark incessantly.
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Heliox |
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cindidindi76 wrote: Totally agree, he fell on a basic spin, and there was not a single whiff of notification that he did anything wrong in that disco routine, and there were
all sorts of wrong going on. Josh screwed up immensely. I don't care if he made the BIG lift, if he couldn't do the basics then it sucked.
Mary came off as the mouthpiece for Nigel the whole show, I want to see Mary voice her opinions b4 Nigel. I lost a ton of respect for this show, it is losing it's authenticity by not being honest with the public about what is going on. Please someone throw some votes to Mark for me, and I will gladly return votes in the fall for a Canadian SYTYCD fav for you! |
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SurvivorFanGP |
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WTF was Toni going on and on about when giving Katee a critique for her Broadway? I literally didn't understand a word she said.
I agree that the judge's favorism is literally getting off-putting. I changed the channel when Nigel said that if Mark/Comfort didn't make it, it was because everyone was better than them, and turned it back when his critique ended. -_- Yeah, i'm kind of biased with KATEEPWNAGE, but both of Katee/Twitch's routines were actually my favorites, along with Mark/Comfort's hip hop. Those three routines were miles ahead of everything tonight, along with Josh/Chelsie's Argentine Tango. And contrary to what the judges said (i'm noticing a pattern here), Chelsie/Mark's AT was way better than Chelsie/Josh's. In the former, both were nailing it, with this one, I noticed several small mess ups by Josh. |
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Drew B |
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Can somebody PLEASE explain the f*cking "IV Real" sh*t to me? Where did it come from? What is it supposed to mean? Did I miss something?!?!
Courtney and Will - Samba - Nigel suggested that when they weren't thinking too much about technique, it was great. I agree with that, but I would say that in Will's case, that was pretty much never… He was ALWAYS overthinking it, and so we ended up with overly careful, overexaggerated movement. Also, he didn't seem to be feeling the music AT ALL. I didn't like him in this. Courtney was great, but unfortunately, because she was so competent and effortless, I didn't notice her as much. My eye got drawn to Will who was doing too much. I was grateful for the one or two times that the camera was on Courtney alone, because those were the times we could actually appreciate her ability. I don't think that it is far-fetched to believe that Courtney could have a future as a professional Latin dancer if she wanted to. Comfort - Solo - I think this may have been her best solo yet. However, what's missing for me is any tricks. Most hip hop dancers on this show (breakers and/or poppers, in particular) have wowed us with their tricks. Without that and alone on a stage, there isn't enough razzle-dazzle to what she does to really impress. Katee and Twitch - Contemporary - There were a lot of things I liked about this routine, but ultimately, I'm afraid that it didn't quite work for me. The problem is, they never fully integrated the dancing and the acting. When they focused on acting, there was little to no dance going on. When they were really dancing, the acting got substantially softer and less committed. I would say that they were both more successful when they were on opposite sides of the door. It's almost as if having to interact directly was one more thing than they were able to handle. I also wish that the dance had felt more connected to the music. Still, I will say this was one of Katee's more successful forays into character work. Was anybody else surprised by Twitch having a cigarette? I know it was part of the character, but I also know that networks try to keep that off of the air, particularly when a show is considered a "family show"… Will - Solo - I loved this. It's the first time I think he's successfully played ANY character, and it's the first time I've actually had fun watching him. Comfort and Mark - Hip Hop - I loved this, too. I think it's the best "hard" hip hop we've seen this season (it's too hard to compare it to "lyrical" hip hop like the one Josua and Katee did week one). It was CERTAINLY better than the overpimped one Comfort did with Twitch last week. Comfort was great - Mark, IMO, was even better! Katee - Solo - This was good, but not as good as I would like. When Katee leaps, she lacks that split second where it feels like she may just float away. The best contemporary dancers in this and other seasons (think Nick, Melody, Travis, Allison, Danny, Will…) have all had this. Katee doesn't. Also, on her spins, she loses her center. I always thought that Katee was more a technical dancer and less of a performer. I'm now seeing that her technique is okay but not amazing. At her best, though, she's a great mix of both. Chelsie and Joshua - Argentine Tango - I was disappointed by this one. Joshua struggled. He wasn't bad, per se, but he wasn't nearly as great as he usually is. He was stiff throughout, and his height deficiencies caused some awkward lines, even with a partner as small as Chelsie. I thought Chelsie was very good, but (and this may be heresy) I think Courtney is a better Latin dancer than she is. Courtney certainly brings more fire and passion to it. Oh, and can somebody please answer one question? Why the hell was Dimitry wearing a shirt while he choreographed them?! Mark - Solo - While I still like Mark's personality and performance, the technique on this solo was sorely lacking. I HATED the cartwheel with the broken legs. However, I have to say that in four seasons of the show, Mark is one of the only ones who begs for votes in a way that doesn't make me want to throttle him. His goofiness is so charming and infectious that he comes across loveable rather than desperate or annoying. Courtney and Will - Hip Hop - This choreography was all about connection and chemistry, and for me, it wasn't there. They were dancing in very divergent styles. Will was smooth and flowing while Courtney was clean and crisp. Neither style is inherently "right" or better, but divergent styles for this type of story was totally wrong. Let's talk about the story. In the best story dances, the dancing tells the story, and we don't need the introductory explanation to know what is going on. I am confident that without the explanation here, we wouldn't have known (or at least I wouldn't have known) what was going on. I certainly wouldn't have known that Will was supposed to be dead! Part of the problem was the choreography. I think it would have been so much more effective if Courtney had started off dancing alone with Will shadowing her from behind and trying to contact her. Then, partway through, she could have a moment of realization where she sees him for the first time and we have that moment of bittersweet joy from both the loss and the reunion. Lacking that kind of storytelling or the required chemistry, I have to disagree with the judges. I really didn't feel much emotion at all… Chelsie - Solo - I thought she looked more gorgeous here than she ever has on this show, but it was still an underwhelming ballroom solo. It reminded me of Heidi, only nowhere near as electric. Kate and Twitch - Broadway - I'd like to start with Toni Basil's comment. I was deeply offended by her assertion that Broadway dancing is inorganic and not rooted in emotion or character. Sure, that may be true of bad, cheesy Tyce D'Orio style Broadway, but GOOD Broadway dancing is all about the character and the emotion. It's certainly more grounded in that foundation than a style like ballet or ballroom which is so much more about the form… On the other hand, I will agree with Toni that Twitch DID act the part in a more believable way and that Katee was NOT earthy or grounded enough. For a piece that's all about libidinous predation, there was no sex! I would have loved to see a sexy dancer (think Natalie or Anya or even Courtney) doing this routine! Twitch acted better. Katee danced better. The overall routine was just okay. Still Toni could have made her point without demeaning an entire performance medium! Joshua - Solo - I was very underwhelmed by this and it all came down to one issue - Josh was looking down the whole time! Therefore, the performance never broke through and connected. There was nothing wrong with the movement. It was the performance that was lacking. Courtney - Solo - There is a sincerity and an authenticity to Courtney when she dances solo that makes her my favorite to watch dancing alone. The choreography here wasn't as impressive as some, but she pulls it off with performance. Twitch - Solo - I hated the Super-Twitch shirt and the IV Real sh*t, but I can't fault his dancing. He just looks comfortable and natural when he dances in his own style. Comfort and Mark - Foxtrot - I am completely at odds with the judges on this one. I really liked it. Mark performed the hell out of it with a style that rivals old legends like Fred Astaire, and Comfort, to me at least, held her own. I'm not an expert at the technical elements of a foxtrot, and when Mary talked about the closed hold problems and they played back that moment, I guess I can see what she was talking about. Still, watching it the first time, I didn't notice. I was too caught up in the performance. For the judges to talk about the lack of chemistry and the thinking too much thing when they praised Will and Courtney's Samba earlier, though, was too much for me. I call shenanigans! Chelsie and Joshua - Disco - I kind of thought that this was a hot mess. Sure, they did some really impressive tricks, but what was lacking was an effortlessness to make it look smooth and graceful. They seemed to be working SO HARD that it called attention to all the little bobbles (and there were more than a few of them). Still, I have to agree with Toni that they did a good job capturing the spirit of the dance, at least with their faces. Chelsie was more fun than usual, here. My Rankings (pair dances only): 1. Comfort and Mark - Hip Hop (by a mile) 2. Comfort and Mark - Foxtrot (I can't help it. I enjoyed it) 3. Katee and Twitch - Contemporary 4. Chelsie and Joshua - Argentine Tango 5. Katee and Twitch - Broadway 6. Courtney and Will - Hip Hop 7. Chelsie and Joshua - Disco 8. Courtney and Will - Samba (all due to HIM - she was great) I thought the only great dance was Comfort and Mark's hip-hop. I thought all the rest had real problems, but that ultimately, Courtney and Will were the worst pair. Still, I think they had the best solos, so it's anybody's game. I'm not sure who will be going home. I'm actually afraid that Joshua is vulnerable, but he had a really weak night and so I'm not inspired to vote, even though he's been my favorite… |
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Nancois |
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Why was Katee dressed up like Amy Winehouse for the domestic abuse routine?
Chelsie may have great lines and movement in her legs but they still look chunky. Dimitri is a great choreographer. They should bring him back more often. Mark needs to tone down the spaz faces he makes for the camera. Then again, he may be out tomorrow so it won't matter. Mary, please don't show me your white armpit ever again. |
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Romber Rulz |
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Courtney <33333
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walkitout3 |
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walkitout3 wrote:I totally agree with this. Mary and Nigel are so obviously manipulating the viewers. They had their minds made up about Mark & Comfort before they even began that foxtrot. Mary seemed like she was lying through her critique. Poor Mark. P.S. I could listen to Dmitry talk all day. And watch him dance in a dress. |
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Heliox |
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Why was Katee dressed up like Amy Winehouse for the domestic abuse routine?Actually, she was dressed more like Duffy, who sang the song Mercy. And Duffy's music evokes a feeling of the late 60's early 70's style when that beehive hairdo was in fashion. DREWB... you should be judging this show. I agree with your assessments more than what was being fed to us on this show. I am still a bit shell-shocked by the judges evals this week. |
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ModernDayClyde |
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walkitout3 wrote: Ok I was just wondering how you knew. Thanks for the info! Will has been in the bottom 3 a few times before the top 10. I would certainly love a shocker
boot of him tomorrow night. But I guess if they saved him once then they can save him again. What's the point of America voting if their votes don't
matter then? All the eliminations should just be judges choice then. At least then you would know that they are purposefully rigging instead of them trying to
rig it secretly.
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